Conservatives Outraged!

I subscribe to Civil War Times, and sometimes also America's Civil War magazines. They often have lots of interesting stories about slavery. I remember one story about a slave owner (in Mississippi IIRC), who educated and paid his slaves, allowing them to work to eventual freedom.

And there was a piece about Ben Montgomery, an inventor whose master tried (unsuccessfully) to help him secure a patent for an invention. An abbreviated account is on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Montgomery

Benjamin T. Montgomery (1819–1877) was an influential African-American inventor, landowner, and freedman.
Early life

Ben Montgomery was born into slavery in 1819 in Loudon County, Virginia. In the year of 1837, before the outbreak of the Civil War, he was sold as a slave to Joseph Emory Davis. Davis's brother, Jefferson Davis, later became the President of the Confederate States of America. After a period time, Davis could see great talent within Montgomery and assigned to him the responsibility of running his general store on the Davis Bend plantation. Montgomery, who by this time had learned to read and write (he was taught by the Davis children), excelled at running the store and served both white customers and slaves who could trade poultry and other items in return for dry goods. Impressed with his knowledge and abilities to run the store, Davis placed Montgomery in charge of overseeing the entirety of his purchasing and shipping operations on the plantation. The Davis family also taught him many other skills including land surveying, flood control, and architecture.

On May 21, 1847, Montgomery's son, Isaiah Montgomery, was born. Due to Ben's favored position among the Davis Bend slaves by the Davis family, Isaiah was also given the opportunity of receiving an education.

Later career and death

In addition to being able to read and write, Montgomery also learned a number of other difficult tasks, including land surveying, techniques for flood control and the drafting of architectural plans. He was also a skilled mechanic and a born inventor. At the time commerce often flowed through the rivers connecting counties and states. With differences in the depths of water in different spots throughout the river, navigation could become difficult. If a steamboat were to run adrift, the merchandise would be delayed for days, if not weeks.

Montgomery also worked as an inventor. In the late 1850s he applied for a patent for his design of a steam operated propeller to provide propulsion to boats in shallow water. Davis decided to address the problem and created a propeller that could cut into the water at different angles, thus allowing the boat to navigate more easily though shallow water. This was not a new invention, but an improvement on similar designs invented by John Stevens in 1804 and John Ericsson in 1838.(U.S. Patent 588)

On June 10, 1858, on the basis that Ben, as a slave, was not a citizen of the United States, and thus could not apply for a patent in his name, he was denied this patent application in a ruling by the United States Attorney General's office, on the grounds that neither slaves nor their owners could receive patents on inventions devised by slaves.

Later, both Joseph and Jefferson Davis attempted to patent the device in their names but were denied because they were not the "true inventor." Ironically, when Jefferson Davis later assumed the Presidency of the Confederacy, he signed into law the legislation that would allow a slaves to receive patent protection for their inventions. On June 28, 1864, Montgomery, no longer a slave, filed a patent application for his device, but the patent office again rejected his application.

Following the end of the American Civil War, Joseph Davis sold his plantation and property to Montgomery, in 1866, for the sum of $300,000 as part of a long-term loan. With his son Isaiah, Montgomery established a general store known as Montgomery & Sons.

Of course, all of this reading 'n knowledge 'n shit that I do is indicative of nothing other than rampant racism.

:rolleyes:
 
There is a very famous book published in the 70s called Time on the Cross: The Economics of American Slavery. It caused much controversy at the time for having the audacity to infer that not all slaves were treated badly.



http://www.amazon.com/Time-Cross-Economics-American-Slavery/dp/0393312186

It's an outrage. It just goes to show, the real victims of slavery? White dudes. History has conspired against you all, but I believe, that someday, somehow, justice for white dudes will be done. #believe #whitedudejustice
 
Interesting.
1. I never said they were cone-headed.
2. I never refused to answer any questions about them, myself, their mother or her parents and siblings.

Why so secretive Taffy? Something to hide I guess? Like your racism?
Since you referred to the supposed children's mother, as their mother and not as your wife or ex-wife; it's probably safe to assume that the two of you are no longer married and more possibly, were never married.
How do we know they're your children?
Maybe you just made them up.
 
I subscribe to Civil War Times, and sometimes also America's Civil War magazines. They often have lots of interesting stories about slavery. I remember one story about a slave owner (in Mississippi IIRC), who educated and paid his slaves, allowing them to work to eventual freedom.

And there was a piece about Ben Montgomery, an inventor whose master tried (unsuccessfully) to help him secure a patent for an invention. An abbreviated account is on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Montgomery



Of course, all of this reading 'n knowledge 'n shit that I do is indicative of nothing other than rampant racism.

:rolleyes:

I don't believe you're married to a black woman and I'm not afraid to state it outright.

If you are, she is the dumbest black woman in New York State. Don't have kids, cause to break it to you softly; you're dumb too. So any kids you and the dumbest black woman in New York State would have, are going to redefine stupidity and show everyone how it's done.
 
Franklin Delano Roosevelt on Mussolini:

There seems no question that he is really interested in what we are doing and I am much interested and deeply imipressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy and to prevent general European trouble.
 
No, it's quite obvious you deployed the image of gay marriage as a weapon of ridicule.

Now, please stop trying to hide your homophobia behind these alleged prairie-topped offspring of yours that supposedly sprang from your oh-so-heterosexual loins.

LOL.... Rune can't even defend himself when you drag the conversation down to his own idiot-vs-idiot level.

I told you he was an Emo.
He spent 8 minutes trying to get your attention; because he was afraid that you were ignoring him.

Here's a picture of him waiting for your attention:
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I can't? You seem to be the one dancing, not me. I reposted many posts you apparently can't answer.....

If you must know, one of my children has debilitating asthma, his entire life, can't play sports, can't go outside when the air is too cold,
The other has Non-Verbal Learning Disability.

Now, what two races does your marriage consist of?

Why do they live with their mother, instead of with you?
Could it be you feel guilty about the possibility of your drug usage causing all this?
 
I don't believe you're married to a black woman and I'm not afraid to state it outright.

If you are, she is the dumbest black woman in New York State. Don't have kids, cause to break it to you softly; you're dumb too. So any kids you and the dumbest black woman in New York State would have, are going to redefine stupidity and show everyone how it's done.

I would probably describe you as the dumbest vertebrate I've ever encountered. And the only reason I'd even give you a leg up over invertebrates is that I've never met a mollusk that could type.

That said, I defy you find anything I said in this thread and make a semi-coherent argument that it is "racist." I defy you to find anything that was "pro slavery." You won't, because that's not what I was talking about.

You're defining "racism" as anything that doesn't fit into the neat little pre-packaged opinion you've derived from Hollywood films. Anything that doesn't fit into those tiny parameters gets a knee-jerk "RACIST!" from you, no matter how historically accurate and factual it is.

All I'm saying is that, for the times it occurred in, slavery was not a universally horrible thing and not significantly worse than what inner city white people were dealing with at the same time. That is not the same thing as saying it "wasn't horrible." It certainly can't be portrayed as being "pro slavery," but that certainly doesn't slow your idiocy down a bit, does it?

Did you read the story above about Ben Montgomery? I'm not saying it represents the typical slave experience, but there are enough stories like that to argue against your premise that all slave owners were universally horrible people.

But you really are a bonehead, because nothing that is longer than one or two sentences can sink into that thick skull of yours.
 
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I don't believe you're married to a black woman and I'm not afraid to state it outright.

If you are, she is the dumbest black woman in New York State. Don't have kids, cause to break it to you softly; you're dumb too. So any kids you and the dumbest black woman in New York State would have, are going to redefine stupidity and show everyone how it's done.

But you promote the ideas of Eldridge Cleaver, which makes you the dumbest slut in New York.
 
Of course I am. Which is why, like most white supremacists, I am in an interracial marriage.

But please, do carry on.... it is mindless knee-jerk responses like yours to thoughtful observations that will ultimately rid the world of racism.

Just because you're in an inter-racial marriage doesn't mean you can't be racist
 
I think it's time for me to stay away from these discussions for fear of alienating people like Rune, Darla, Christie, iolo maine, etc.....

I hope one day humanity will just argue about species instead of race and slavery.
 
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