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Damocles

Damocles

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The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
 
Damocles said:
The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
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Actually, the 19th Amendment says nothing about two genders, or even that women have the right to vote. It said that the voting cannot be denied based on "sex". That could include men, women, or any other gender.

You should read the actual words before posting these things:
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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Walt said:
Actually, the 19th Amendment says nothing about two genders, or even that women have the right to vote. It said that the voting cannot be denied based on "sex". That could include men, women, or any other gender.

You should read the actual words before posting these things:
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Excellent. Thanks.

I should, but don't really have the time to look it up. The question popped into my head.
 
Damocles said:
The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


 
Damocles said:
Excellent. Thanks.

I should, but don't really have the time to look it up. The question popped into my head.
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Now you made me feel bad. I was rude to you, and I really should not have been. I am sorry. I will try to be more polite.

The 19th Amendment was carefully worded not to give the right to vote to anyone, but not to allow the right to vote to be taken away based on what we today call gender. The Constitution does not specifically give the right to vote, which is a little disturbing.
 
Damocles said:
The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
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Just show your genitals at a voting booth.
 
AProudLefty said:
She threw his dick somewhere. They found it and it was surgically reattached. And yes he did go into porno business.
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At least he got it back. A few members on this forum are still searching for theirs (unless one or two just gave up) :eek:
 
Given the number of transgendered people in the nation as a percentage of the population,
if we were to just leave all of them the fuck alone,
how would it impact our lives at all?

We had one at work.
One obvious one sold me a pair of suspenders, a pocket square, and a scarf at Macy's on West 34th Street.
There's one wrestling on TV--I think it's AEW--when I'm seriously desperate for something to watch.

That, to my knowledge, is my total experience with them in almost seventy-five years.

If they all vote for TDAK in the next elections, we wouldn't even notice.
 
Damocles said:
The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
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Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
 
Damocles said:
The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
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Read the text of the 19th and you will have your answer.

In fact, it appears that the text embraces the concept that your right to vote cannot be affected no matter your sex, man, woman or other. Some people are born intrasex.
 
Damocles said:
The US Constitution was changed to allow Women the right to vote (Amendment 19), this made it so that Men and Women (Male and Female) were the two genders allowed to vote per the constitution. Until just recently this covered everybody, but not so much anymore.

So, if folks are a new gender, and are not men or women (male or female), do we need a new Amendment to grant those new folks the right to vote or do we just ignorantly go by their Birth Assigned genders and just act like it isn't like calling them by their Dead Name?
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Not a lawyer, but you don't need an amendment unless some state(s) try to deny the vote to some groups.

However, you are talking about gender and the 19th amendment referred to sex. That should cover everybody.

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."
 
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