Could A Good God Permit So Much Suffering?

[Cypress]

A near death experience is one thing, but being sick and in a coma is another.

Even as few as a couple hundred years ago caskets were built with a bell to alert others the person wasn't dead.
Of course, that was before embalming was popular. You know, to make sure they were dead. LOL

Safety coffin - Wikipedia

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Unfortunately, it's hard to reverse a cremation!

I read that ancients Israelites would visit the family tomb for several days after a relative deceased, to make sure they were really dead, and not just deeply comatose.

There is some speculation that is precisely what the three women were doing going to the tomb on the third day after the crucifixion.

 

[WinterBorn]

Whether there is a God or not is always debatable.

If there is a God, I don't think he is evil. I think he is apathetic. I don't think he is paying attention to his creation.

Somehow that feels worse.

 

[martin]

Whether there is a God or not is always debatable.

If there is a God, I don't think he is evil. I think he is apathetic. I don't think he is paying attention to his creation.

Somehow that feels worse.

Maybe working on his golf game.

 

[IBDaMann]

If anything I'm just a seeker.

You aren't any seeker of correct answers, that's for sure. When someone correctly answers one of your questions, you launch into an unhinged meltdown.

20 years ago, I would have been pretty close to a bona fide atheist.

Except that you don't know what an atheist is. You mistakenly believe that every occurrence of the word "atheist" somehow needs a qualifier, when there are no qualifiers for atheism.

But after reflection and personal evolution I decided I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

How can you not have enough faith to have a complete lack of faith? Take a guess at who sucks at logic.

In the past five years I've probably been ranging and fluctuating between agnostic and Christian humanist, if I was forced to label it.

Those are not partitions. You were both, not fluctuating between them.

 

[Hume]

I don't think there is actually a label for me, and I've never really liked labels. If anything I'm just a seeker.

20 years ago, I would have been pretty close to a bona fide atheist.

But after reflection and personal evolution I decided I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

In the past five years I've probably been ranging and fluctuating between agnostic and Christian humanist, if I was forced to label it.

You CHOOSE to be indecisive.

 

[Hume]

Your opening post is about theodicy, and genocide and slavery are perfectly topical to theodicy.

Not about theodicy. Sorry. Topic is about nature of God. Not wars bombs blah blah blah

 

[Hume]

Whether there is a God or not is always debatable.

If there is a God, I don't think he is evil. I think he is apathetic. I don't think he is paying attention to his creation.

Somehow that feels worse.

That sounds like deism. God made the world then retired.

 

[Into the Night]

There is no god. Now what?

Nothing. I already know your belief and your religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Not about theodicy. Sorry. Topic is about nature of God. Not wars bombs blah blah blah

Yet another paradox, Hugo. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

 

[Hume]

Yet another paradox, Hugo. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

go kill yourself

 

[Into the Night]

That sounds like deism. God made the world then retired.

Is he collecting Social Security, Hugo?

 

[Hume]

Is he collecting Social Security, Hugo?

go kill yourself

 

[Into the Night]

go kill yourself

Now that's the Hugo I know...inane useless chants for people to kill themselves.

 

[Hume]

Now that's the Hugo I know...inane useless chants for people to kill themselves.

go kill yourself

 

[Into the Night]

Unfortunately, it's hard to reverse a cremation!

What cremation?

I read that ancients Israelites would visit the family tomb for several days after a relative deceased, to make sure they were really dead, and not just deeply comatose.

There is some speculation that is precisely what the three women were doing going to the tomb on the third day after the crucifixion.

I don't think you know what crucifixion entails. It was a horrible form of torture and execution, reserved for the notorious and 'crimes against the state'.

 

[IBDaMann]

There is no god. Now what?

You believe in Climate Change and Global Warming. You believe in an entire pantheon of deities. The difference is that your gods are stupid.

 

[Hume]

You believe in Climate Change and Global Warming. You believe in an entire pantheon of deities. The difference is that your gods are stupid.

^^Speaking of Stupid

 

[IBDaMann]

^^Speaking of Stupid

You worship the same stupid religions as well. Unlike Christians, you would never be able to justify your beliefs.

Tell me about how the Climate goddess uses forcings and feedbacks to cradle the earth in loving warmth while sending Global Warming to punish humanity for its carbon sins. Tell me how the ocean doesn't have to rise any for humanity to be imperiled by catastrophic sea level rise. Tell me how there are no more coral reefs because they all died from coral bleaching.

Your religion is as stupid as you are.

 

[Hume]

You worship the same stupid religions as well. Unlike Christians, you would never be able to justify your beliefs.

Tell me about how the Climate goddess uses forcings and feedbacks to cradle the earth in loving warmth while sending Global Warming to punish humanity for its carbon sins. Tell me how the ocean doesn't have to rise any for humanity to be imperiled by catastrophic sea level rise. Tell me how there are no more coral reefs because they all died from coral bleaching.

Your religion is as stupid as you are.

You are profoundly confused.

 

[IBDaMann]

You are profoundly confused.

You are projecting your confusion. You are the one who can neither support nor justify his WACKY, physics-defying religious beliefs. You are a tool for those who do your thinking for you.