Not ignorant. True.
Could A Good God Permit So Much Suffering?
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…but if you don’t know you don’t have free will seems like it would be ok.
Ironically science is finding some evidence that what we think of as free will isn’t really real. Still tbd tho’
Free will is rather meaningless concept. Too vague to be debated.
So it is a game God is playing.
It may be ok with the person but not with what god intended for us when he decided to give us a go.
I have heard about that and to me it seems pretty far fetched. Has a worker bee ever gone on strike and said fuck this? That is how no free will works.
It only matters to us because we can sort of think and reason. What God's motives are he has told us but frankly it's anyone's guess.
I told you I'm a sinner dipshit.
You have committed sins on this very site dipshit.
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IBDaMann
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Your qualifier "absolute" is discarded. While I have objective standards for good and evil that are rooted in thermodynamics, that fact is totally irrelevant to the fact that I have the concept of good and evil.
Of course, I don't care what theologians say. There are no objective standards for what guides any human beyond the electrochemical motions of electrons in brain tissue (and other nerves).
You have inadvertently undermined any rational case for theism.
Nope. Good is creation and/or an increase in usable potential while evil is destruction and/or the reduction of usable potential.
If you are ever in court facing charges, feel free to explain to the jurors that your destruction of property and/or your taking of a life is your way of creating something better.
You are a weirdo. Are now or have you ever been employed?
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Think you've got something dank there nitwit?
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IBDaMann
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gfm7175 has a great answer for this. I will obviously defer to him for his official answer, but my understanding of his take is that we are only alive for an infinitesimally brief moment in time relative to eternity, and God utilizes this time to expose us to adversity and other unpleasantries so that we can appreciate being free from such evils for eternity. This is why Christian dogma emphasizes following Christian doctrine so as to avoid having to endure such evils for eternity.
Well, eternity is another concept with no experiential validity. Another made up concept by fearful people.
IBDaMann
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Is that somehow required? We have the concept of infinity which can be applied to whatever we want, yes?
Nope. Mathematicians aren't typically fearful.
Cite one mathematician talking about eternity.
No.