Could we lose our bases in Europe?

Jake Starkey said:
War would cause The Greatest Depression Ever. For the whole world.
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Depressions follow wars. Usually during them the economy booms bigtime. Even in Germany in WW 2 as the country was bombed into rubble the economy expanded to late 1944. After Germany surrendered, the economy crashed and crashed bad. Same in the UK. Neither really fully recovered until about the 1970's and in the UK Socialism added about 10 to 15 years to their recovery time.

The Soviet Union was the same way. Once the war ended, the economy crashed. The difference was Stalin didn't give a shit and let people starve. He also let his military loot Eastern Europe, particularly Germany, to no end to keep things afloat. Then he continued massive military spending that further crushed the economy along with Socialist programs.

In the US, the economy boomed like never before. The US, alone, came out of WW 2 largely unscathed and was the world's food and industrial supplier. Until other economies started to really fully recover, the US was making bank off the misery and ruins of other nations.
 
Ross Dolan said:
Allow me to enumerate them for you.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. 7. and 8. There are a few more.
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Those are not "ideals" they are Rights in the form of laws.

Ideals are things like

"E Pluribus Unum." Out of Many, One.

or

"In God We Trust."

or

"All Men are Created Equal."

That you don't know the difference means you understand nothing about America.

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The Bill of Rights is not a list of "Ideals" but rather list of Rights codified into law. Ideals are what America as a nation strives to be and stand for.
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
Those are not "ideals" they are Rights in the form of laws.

Ideals are things like

"E Pluribus Unum." Out of Many, One.

or

"In God We Trust."

or

"All Men are Created Equal."

That you don't know the difference means you understand nothing about America.

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The Bill of Rights is not a list of "Ideals" but rather list of Rights codified into law. Ideals are what America as a nation strives to be and stand for.
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All 8?

Or if only a few, please enumerate them.
 
I don't believe European countries would actually dare to expel US troops. Any European politician criticizing Trump's actions could be seen as endorsement of the US Democratic Party, or the neoliberal establishment. However, if Trump were to take the crucial step of forcibly occupying Greenland then expelling US troops stationed in Europe, this action would be seen as a direct challenge to US national interests. This is unlikely to be accepted by the neoliberal establishment. In other words, Europeans might verbally criticize Trump, but they probably wouldn't have the guts to actually do it.

On the other hand, global military presence, including NATO, aligns more with the demands of the traditional establishment, which is not what Trump values. If European countries expel US troops, wouldn't that perfectly align with Trump's isolationist ideology? How could European politicians aligned with the neoliberal establishment possibly act in a way that suits Trump's thinking?

Therefore, whatever Trump does won't truly affect the existence of NATO.
 
How does a nation which is $40T in debt, make any purchase of a piece of land the size of a continent, and is rich in mineral resources and military strategic position?

American cannot afford to pay for its own homeless to get housing, much less go around buying huge chunks of land.

Nor can we afford to provide for millions of illegal immigrants. Especially when some of those illegals are committing 10s of Billions in Fraud.

Nor can we afford to fund NATO or keep the bases. Let the bases go, focus on issues with Mexico and Venezuela.

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America is no longer a super-power, the Biden Puppeteers stole $20T! America is now a North American Power, which is significantly hampered by enormous national debt.

We cannot afford NATO, or afford the costs of blocking Russian aggression in the Ukraine.

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America is no longer a military super power, we are now merely a national super debtor.

We cannot afford Zelenskyy or Ukraine, we cannot afford NATO. Let them both die.

Obama and crew Fraud-Stole America's super power status, with open, sneering, Glee. $20T stolen in just four years of Obama3/Biden-Puppet!

It will take 60 successful years of focus on returning heavy industry to America, and paying heavily on the principle of the national debt, to fix our problems. F*** the world, fix America!

Oh... and Repeal the ACA.

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China is now the world's super power. Not because of their military, we are roughly equivalent in Military Power. China is the leader of the world because of their Industrial financial advantage.

America cannot pay for its corruption and fraud, and also pay the interest on the national debt. Much less pay to maintain its military, replace the munitions sent to Ukraine, or house its own homeless, much less 10s of Millions of Illegals.

Obama1-2-3, destroyed America, as he told U.S. he would.

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"Please... Oh Please, Mister Chinese Han-Clan Masters, Alms, Alms for the poor... Achk, Owe! Ohhhh Ouch! ... Please Master Han!, don't beat me again! I promise, I'll be a good little Communist Client State..."


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Kurmugeon said:
China is now the world's super power. Not because of their military, we are roughly equivalent in Military Power. China is the leader of the world because of their Industrial financial advantage.

America cannot pay for its corruption and fraud, and also pay the interest on the national debt. Much less pay to maintain its military, replace the munitions sent to Ukraine, or house its own homeless, much less 10s of Millions of Illegals.

Obama1-2-3, destroyed America, as he told U.S. he would.

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China HAS to sell the crap they make to keep their economy afloat. And China's economy it is very bad shape. China is not the World's superpower. Most of the stuff we sent to Ukraine was used military equipment the was in need of replacement. We did send a lot of money that we could not afford. We also sent Somalia Minnesota that we could not afford.
 
FastLane said:
China HAS to sell the crap they make to keep their economy afloat. And China's economy it is very bad shape. China is not the World's superpower. Most of the stuff we sent to Ukraine was used military equipment the was in need of replacement. We did send a lot of money that we could not afford. We also sent Somalia Minnesota that we could not afford.
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China is a Communist Slave Labor Industrial State. It doesn't matter if its economy is a wreck, they're Slaves and the government is a electronic locked down surveillance nightmare, they can kill their own political dissidents at will.

Look to not Taiwan, but Indonesia and the mineral resources of the South China Sea, the next big Chinese acquisition.

America is debt locked. $20T in just four years. We are no longer a player.

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Kurmugeon said:
China is a Communist Slave Labor Industrial State. It doesn't matter if its economy is a wreck, they're Slaves and the government is a electronic locked down surveillance nightmare, they can kill their own political dissidents at will.

Look to not Taiwan, but Indonesia and the mineral resources of the South China Sea, the next big Chinese acquisition.

America is debt locked. $20T in just four years. We are no longer a player.

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China cannot feed itself. China does not have enough energy to run itself. Why have workers working with no one buying the crap they make?
 
FastLane said:
China cannot feed itself. China does not have enough energy to run itself. Why have workers working with no one buying the crap they make?
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So a bunch of Chinese starve... hell, harvest some to feed to the others... Understand what kind of Authoritarian State China really is!

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