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Seriously, we can't afford those tax breaks, we never could. Conservatives should come out with some serious and practical budget cuts or STFU.
Currently if nothing changes Obama breaks his tax pledge in 2010
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cut taxes. if we are going down i want as much of my money as I can keep. i dont trust this govt at all anymore.
Neither. Keep taxes the same (maybe a mild increase on those over 500K) and freeze government spending while looking for ways to decrease it.
I agree with you, but that was not one of the choices.
Should we go the Republican way... "Cut taxes and increase spending" Borrow and spend I call it....
Or
The Democratic way... "Increase Taxes and increase spending" Tax and spend I call it.....
It isn't. The article was just plain wrong and has since been withdrawn by Reuters.
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Again, give me specific cuts that make a substantial difference or get out of the room. You aren't going to seriously come up with 500 billion in real cuts when that's half of discretionary spending.
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People like you are the problem with our government.
Very defeatist attitude. They just have to commit themselves to cutting spending; no one is willing to.
Did you ever see the movie "Brazil"? That is our gov't now. I work with a municipal government pretty regularly (big city). There are 12 forms that have to be completed just to move forward with a purchase under $2,500. The bureaucracy is absurd.
And almost everyone agrees that you can cut the military budget by a third, for starters. There are still $500 wrenches being sold there.
Gore's "reinventing gov't" project in the '90's was actually making some headway, but they abandoned it. They should start it up again, or something like it....
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LMAO.... wrong again...
He KNEW going in to his campaigning that the Bush tax cuts were going to expire. The LACK of action to reverse this IS his decision. If he lacks the leadership to get this done, that is on him.
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The $500 billion in waste (over the next ten years) that Obama found in Medicare/Medicaid would be a good start.
The defense budget would be another where I would bet we could find a lot of waste.
Education.... plenty of administrative waste there
Listen to what Onceler is saying. Cuts can be made in a lot of places. I am as pro-military as they come but I know cuts can be made there. Other places too. How about Congressmen's salaries/benefits. If the jokers really cared about helping this country they would look inward first....most of them don't need what we pay them anyway. And don't get me wrong, I am not against paying someone for the job done but when you look at some them and what they receive....and what they actually do....we ain't getting our money's worth.
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I think they should take an automatic 10% pay cut each fiscal year they raise the national debt.
They get a 25% raise for every $500 billion they lower the national debt in a fiscal year.
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Actually coming up with the cuts IS easy. Yes, people will bitch and moan, but bottom line, if we cannot afford it.... we CANNOT AFFORD it. Period.
Handing the bill to our decedents is NOT a valid option.
Totally agree on the education thing. That is true on the local level as well. Take a look at this article on superintendent's salaries:
"For every public school district in Oklahoma, rural or urban or somewhere in between, there is a superintendent, and with that responsibility comes an average payout of almost $97,000 this year."
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=19&articleid=20100125_19_a1_marywe745039
I'm sure this exists in other states. And we're ranked something like 48th in teacher salary with these superintendent's salaries included.
I don't think coming up with them is difficult; it's that everyone in Congress has their pet project, or department, or bill, or earmark, or whatever it is, and it's become difficult to move forward with meaningful (for lack of a better term) "spending reform."
I just refuse to accept it. If our government has become more about trading favors & making sure everyone in Congress is happy, at the expense of fiscal discipline & future generations, it's lost its usefulness. Better to tear it down & start anew (I know - easier said than done).
I used to be against term limits, but now I'm 100% behind them....
The only way to deal with the problem is a combination of spending cuts on the entirety of the discretionary spending budget, including defense, increasing taxes and some sort of Medicare reform. The first is hard, the second is harder and the third is damn near impossible.
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Agreed. 100%.