D.C.'s Marion Barry arrested again

blackascoal said:
There was nothing "stereotyped" about his comment. It's a reality of life that obvioulsy you don't have to deal with, and seemingly know nothing about.
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It is a stereotype. You assume that everybody in some group thinks one way (when first that statement means 'everybody white' because clearly Black people, Native Americans, Hispanics, etc who have had issues with white people are not all thinking that way), because you hear it so often.

While stereotypes can be true in some ways and many people can think the way it is stated, it isn't everybody by a long shot and it is clearly a stereotype, most people "deem" no such thing as what was suggested was automatically "deemed" in the statement.
 
Damocles said:
It is a stereotype. You assume that everybody in some group thinks one way (when first that statement means 'everybody white' because clearly Black people, Native Americans, Hispanics, etc who have had issues with white people are not all thinking that way), because you hear it so often.

While stereotypes can be true in some ways and many people can think the way it is stated, it isn't everybody by a long shot and it is clearly a stereotype, most people "deem" no such thing as what was suggested was automatically "deemed" in the statement.
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" ... while non-black folk can do the exact same thing yet be counted as individual incidents."

Please point out who was stereotyped?

Would this be a "stereotype" or a reality ...

White people do not face the same abuse, harrasement, brutality, murder by the police, and injustice in the legal system as black people do.

Is that a stereotype?
 
blackascoal said:
" ... while non-black folk can do the exact same thing yet be counted as individual incidents."

Please point out who was stereotyped?

Would this be a "stereotype" or a reality ...

White people do not face the same abuse, harrasement, brutality, murder by the police, and injustice in the legal system as black people do.

Is that a stereotype?
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Again, the entire statement speaks to how everybody thinks it is the essence of stereotype to assume something of an entire group. Even adding "to cops" to this statement would be stereotyping, let alone everybody.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
True enough! What's really fascinating is that when black folk make mistakes on any scale, it's deemed as representative of the entire group....while non-black folk can do the exact same thing yet be counted as individual incidents.
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Damocles said:
Except, of course, when somebody is making stereotyped nonsense statements like this one.
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Stop and think......it's the so called "main stream media" that indulges the imagery and subliminal message that I am referring to as a stereotype. This is picked up and echoed by those willing and able to attach this imagery to their pre-conceived notions and assertions...case in point our resident willfully ignorant neocon parrots Tutu and Southern Man.

How crime is reported in our news media would have a person completely ignorant of America believing that only black folk are the only people commiting all the major, heinous crimes.....which flies in the face of stats from the FBI and Justice Dept. To this day, in my local newspapers I can find crime reports that will almost always mention the race of crimes committed by non-white perpetraitors, yet NEVER the case for white perpetraitors (this is without an accompanying photo). It is ASSUMED that by the sir name of the perps, the reader knows they are not a minority. Also, non-black public officials, celebraties, religious leaders, public advocates, etc. are not sought out by the media to comment of crime rates of any type. The majority of illegal drug users, producers and traffickers are non-minority....yet I don't see the Pat Robertson being asked his opinion, or the head of the Hiberian Society.

Bottom line: if you don't live it, you won't notice it.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Stop and think......it's the so called "main stream media" that indulges the imagery and subliminal message that I am referring to. This is picked up and echoed by those willing and able to attach this imagery to their pre-conceived notions and assertions. That is the "stereotype".
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Do you understand the difference between the assumption made previously to this idea of "subliminal" ideation passed on through the so-called MSM?
 
Stop and think......it's the so called "main stream media" that indulges the imagery and subliminal message that I am referring to as a stereotype. This is picked up and echoed by those willing and able to attach this imagery to their pre-conceived notions and assertions...case in point our resident willfully ignorant neocon parrots Tutu and Southern Man.

How crime is reported in our news media would have a person completely ignorant of America believing that only black folk are the only people commiting all the major, heinous crimes.....which flies in the face of stats from the FBI and Justice Dept. To this day, in my local newspapers I can find crime reports that will almost always mention the race of crimes committed by non-white perpetraitors, yet NEVER the case for white perpetraitors (this is without an accompanying photo). It is ASSUMED that by the sir name of the perps, the reader knows they are not a minority. Also, non-black public officials, celebraties, religious leaders, public advocates, etc. are not sought out by the media to comment of crime rates of any type. The majority of illegal drug users, producers and traffickers are non-minority....yet I don't see the Pat Robertson being asked his opinion, or the head of the Hiberian Society.

Bottom line: if you don't live it, you won't notice it
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Damocles said:
Do you understand the difference between the assumption made previously to this idea of "subliminal" ideation passed on through the so-called MSM?
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This is why I asked you to stop and think....I assumed you would have read all my response and comprehend my point.

I wasn't making any assumption, I was pointing out to daily occurences that are experienced by non-white folks in America. If you want to discuss my examples, then please do...because they are not "assuming" anything.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Stop and think......it's the so called "main stream media" that indulges the imagery and subliminal message that I am referring to as a stereotype. This is picked up and echoed by those willing and able to attach this imagery to their pre-conceived notions and assertions...case in point our resident willfully ignorant neocon parrots Tutu and Southern Man.

How crime is reported in our news media would have a person completely ignorant of America believing that only black folk are the only people commiting all the major, heinous crimes.....which flies in the face of stats from the FBI and Justice Dept. To this day, in my local newspapers I can find crime reports that will almost always mention the race of crimes committed by non-white perpetraitors, yet NEVER the case for white perpetraitors (this is without an accompanying photo). It is ASSUMED that by the sir name of the perps, the reader knows they are not a minority. Also, non-black public officials, celebraties, religious leaders, public advocates, etc. are not sought out by the media to comment of crime rates of any type. The majority of illegal drug users, producers and traffickers are non-minority....yet I don't see the Pat Robertson being asked his opinion, or the head of the Hiberian Society.

Bottom line: if you don't live it, you won't notice it.
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Isn't it ironic that you demonstrate that the liberal media is racist yet you are liberal.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Stop and think......it's the so called "main stream media" that indulges the imagery and subliminal message that I am referring to as a stereotype. This is picked up and echoed by those willing and able to attach this imagery to their pre-conceived notions and assertions...case in point our resident willfully ignorant neocon parrots Tutu and Southern Man.

How crime is reported in our news media would have a person completely ignorant of America believing that only black folk are the only people commiting all the major, heinous crimes.....which flies in the face of stats from the FBI and Justice Dept. To this day, in my local newspapers I can find crime reports that will almost always mention the race of crimes committed by non-white perpetraitors, yet NEVER the case for white perpetraitors (this is without an accompanying photo). It is ASSUMED that by the sir name of the perps, the reader knows they are not a minority. Also, non-black public officials, celebraties, religious leaders, public advocates, etc. are not sought out by the media to comment of crime rates of any type. The majority of illegal drug users, producers and traffickers are non-minority....yet I don't see the Pat Robertson being asked his opinion, or the head of the Hiberian Society.

Bottom line: if you don't live it, you won't notice it.
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Southern Man said:
Isn't it ironic that you demonstrate that the liberal media is racist yet you are liberal.
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Isn't it amazing that neocon parrots like yourself are the ones who started and continually whine about a "liberal" media that REAL liberals, independents and progressives have continually stated DOES NOT EXIST. Yet here you are, squawking an erroneous assertion based on a piece of long disproven neocon propaganda.

Amazing how insipidly stubborn you are. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Isn't it amazing that neocon parrots like yourself are the ones who started and continually whine about a "liberal" media that REAL liberals, independents and progressives have continually stated DOES NOT EXIST. Yet here you are, squawking an erroneous assertion based on a piece of long disproven neocon propaganda.

Amazing how insipidly stubborn you are. Carry on.
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Of course you deny that it exists. That doesn't change the obvious fact that it is. *shrug*
In 1981, S. Robert Lichter, then with George Washington University, and Stanley Rothman of Smith College, released a groundbreaking survey of 240 journalists at the most influential national media outlets — including the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Time, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS — on their political attitudes and voting patterns. Results of this study of the “media elite” were included in the October/November 1981 issue of Public Opinion, published by the American Enterprise Institute, in the article “Media and Business Elites.” The data demonstrated that journalists and broadcasters hold liberal positions on a wide range of social and political issues. This study, which was more elaborately presented in Lichter and Rothman’s subsequent book, The Media Elite, became the most widely quoted media study of the 1980s and remains a landmark today.
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http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp
 
LadyT said:
I'm calling bullshit on that one. As a matter of fact, I'd expand it to include all nonwhites in the US of A.


http://www.morninpaper.com/2009/07/video-stephen-colbert-discusses-the-neutral-mans-burden/
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Again, the first post of his was a stereotyped BS statement, the second one was far less stereotyping. You can call "BS" all you want, but it was true. Not all people think that way, as his first statement implies (and thus stereotypes by placing all white people into a group.)
 
blackascoal said:
" ... while non-black folk can do the exact same thing yet be counted as individual incidents."

Please point out who was stereotyped?

Would this be a "stereotype" or a reality ...

White people do not face the same abuse, harrasement, brutality, murder by the police, and injustice in the legal system as black people do.

Is that a stereotype?
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You're denigrating this, to a pity party.
 
Southern Man said:
No response from TaiChiLiberal on this, meaning that he's pwned. :)
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Wrong again, you willfully ignorant neocon parrot. I just not committed to posting on these boards at a set schedule...or what suits your idea of a timely response.

To quickly put your blather to rest....all you've done is parrot the idiocy that the PERSONAL voting records (alleged) of reporters dictates what and how they report the news. That's the premise for your source links.

Well toodles, let me clue you in on a little piece of reality.....reporters DO NOT have final approval of what is reported and how...and their editors answer to the owners of whatever particular media is covering the news. So if the owner is Disney or Rupert Murdoch, you damn sure are NOT going to get news that is highly detrimental to their particular political, social or business ideals and viewpoints.

Why do you think in the last 20 years "alternative" news sources such as Pacifica Broadcast stations have become so popular? Because their stations, such as listener sponsored WBAI in New York, carry programs that are NOT dictated by the MSM and it's corporate sponsors. And these programs were way ahead of the curve regarding all the exposures of screw-ups, lies and corruption regarding Iraq (Gulf War and the invasion/occupation).

Why do you think the so-called "liberal media" had to publicly apologize for it's deplorable coverage of the events leading up to the Iraq invasion? And then there was the extreme attention payed to EVERY negative aspect brought against Obama during the campaigns....the fact based debunking of such negativity originating in the "alternative" media, and not the MSM.

FYI: Lichter severely contradicted his own tomes during the 2008 elections. Check this out:
http://blog.pdamerica.org/2008/07/liberal-media-bias-debunked/

Here's a primer as to why your sources myopic viewpoint makes their conclusions so wrong...the precursor would be reading or getting the DVD "Manufacturing Consent":



Once again, the only the "pwned" is your insipid stubborn adherence to neocon propaganda.
 
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Originally Posted by LadyT
I'm calling bullshit on that one. As a matter of fact, I'd expand it to include all nonwhites in the US of A.


http://www.morninpaper.com/2009/07/v...l-mans-burden/
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Damocles said:
Again, the first post of his was a stereotyped BS statement, the second one was far less stereotyping. You can call "BS" all you want, but it was true. Not all people think that way, as his first statement implies (and thus stereotypes by placing all white people into a group.)
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Repeating yourself does not make your statements true. To date, you avoid the points I made earlier. Just Plain Politics! - View Single Post - D.C.'s Marion Barry arrested again
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Wrong again, you willfully ignorant neocon parrot. I just not committed to posting on these boards at a set schedule...or what suits your idea of a timely response.

To quickly put your blather to rest....all you've done is parrot the idiocy that the PERSONAL voting records (alleged) of reporters dictates what and how they report the news. That's the premise for your source links.

Well toodles, let me clue you in on a little piece of reality.....reporters DO NOT have final approval of what is reported and how...and their editors answer to the owners of whatever particular media is covering the news. So if the owner is Disney or Rupert Murdoch, you damn sure are NOT going to get news that is highly detrimental to their particular political, social or business ideals and viewpoints.

Why do you think in the last 20 years "alternative" news sources such as Pacifica Broadcast stations have become so popular? Because their stations, such as listener sponsored WBAI in New York, carry programs that are NOT dictated by the MSM and it's corporate sponsors. And these programs were way ahead of the curve regarding all the exposures of screw-ups, lies and corruption regarding Iraq (Gulf War and the invasion/occupation).

Why do you think the so-called "liberal media" had to publicly apologize for it's deplorable coverage of the events leading up to the Iraq invasion? And then there was the extreme attention payed to EVERY negative aspect brought against Obama during the campaigns....the fact based debunking of such negativity originating in the "alternative" media, and not the MSM.

FYI: Lichter severely contradicted his own tomes during the 2008 elections. Check this out:
http://blog.pdamerica.org/2008/07/liberal-media-bias-debunked/

Here's a primer as to why your sources myopic viewpoint makes their conclusions so wrong...the precursor would be reading or getting the DVD "Manufacturing Consent":

YouTube - The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News


Once again, the only the "pwned" is your insipid stubborn adherence to neocon propaganda.
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You are obviously too closed minded to admit being pwned. *shrug*
 
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