Dangit Billy: Sweetie and Sweetheart

cawacko said:
If you just got here click on the now closed 'Chris Christie: Pig' thread and you can see his speech where he refers to a woman as sweetheart. Another video was found of Obama as a Senator where he refers to a female reporter as sweetie. Hence the which term is more offensive discussion.
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Personally, I cringed more when Obama said it even though Christie's comment, to me, was sexually-tinged.

Just as an experiment, you guys should ask your wives, sisters and female friends what they'd think if a male stranger called them "sweetheart", "sweetie" or something like that. I mean a real stranger, not a friend or acquaintance.
 
christiefan915 said:
Personally, I cringed more when Obama said it even though Christie's comment, to me, was sexually-tinged.

Just as an experiment, you guys should ask your wives, sisters and female friends what they'd think if a male stranger called them "sweetheart", "sweetie" or something like that. I mean a real stranger, not a friend or acquaintance.
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But, Sweetheart knew exactly who she was heckling.
 
Does anybody remember Mitch McConnell's employee trying to get a Senate cafeteria cashier fired because she called him and other customers "honey", "sugar", and "baby"? Her name was Bernice Harris.
 
Rana said:
Do you feel marginalized when they do?

Is it done by little gray haired ladies from another generation or by a young woman in her 30's. My husband may call me sweetie, but I do not let other men call me by that reference, I correct them.
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I think it is a regional and generational thing. My parents and grandparents generations use those terms constantly and normally it is towards someone a generation or more younger. Regionally, both terms are very common in the south and it is not meant in a demeaning fashion, but rather a term of endearment or even routine pleasantry.

That said, I know others that use the term in a derogatory fashion to talk down to women. To me it is the tone used when saying the word that will typically tell how it is meant.
 
christiefan915 said:
Personally, I cringed more when Obama said it even though Christie's comment, to me, was sexually-tinged.

Just as an experiment, you guys should ask your wives, sisters and female friends what they'd think if a male stranger called them "sweetheart", "sweetie" or something like that. I mean a real stranger, not a friend or acquaintance.
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It definitely had sexual implications. Is it possible that only women can see and hear that?

Oh no, that's right, I know men who noticed it too. Thus the "big talk from a guy who can't see his own blank without a mirror" comment. Which came from a man.

So maybe it is just the guys here. I don't know.
 
Darla said:
It definitely had sexual implications. Is it possible that only women can see and hear that?

Oh no, that's right, I know men who noticed it too. Thus the "big talk from a guy who can't see his own blank without a mirror" comment. Which came from a man.

So maybe it is just the guys here. I don't know.
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Christie's "going down" comment was sexual (unless he was talking about Tastycakes (see what I did there? He's fat.)), but the "sweetheart" bit is more infantilizing than sexual, and makes the whole thing really creepy.
 
Dungheap said:
Christie's "going down" comment was sexual (unless he was talking about Tastycakes (see what I did there? He's fat.)), but the "sweetheart" bit is more infantilizing than sexual, and makes the whole thing really creepy.
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Upon the first time hearing Christi's comment your thought was it's sexual not something's going down i.e. Obama?
 
christiefan915 said:
Personally, I cringed more when Obama said it even though Christie's comment, to me, was sexually-tinged.

Just as an experiment, you guys should ask your wives, sisters and female friends what they'd think if a male stranger called them "sweetheart", "sweetie" or something like that. I mean a real stranger, not a friend or acquaintance.
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My wife gets called it all the time. She doesn't care.

Now if someone is calling her mami, that's a different story.
 
In the era of North England where I live now, many men used to address both men and women as "love" or "duck", you don't hear it so much in these PC days.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
In the era of North England where I live now, many men used to address both men and women as "love" or "duck", you don't hear it so much in these PC days.
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no kidding. i actually had a baliff (female) call me sweetie and i didn't take offense. i've never met anyone who finds the term offensive.
 
cawacko said:
Upon the first time hearing Christi's comment your thought was it's sexual not something's going down i.e. Obama?
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On no Cawacko. He probably waited for my post on it, and then thought of it.

Are you serious? Do you really not get that a lot of people knew this was sexual?? And yes, men too Cawacko. Do you think I make this shit up? Oh, no, you don't, I know what you think. You think well any guy hanging around darla has been castrated by that feminist, so of course he turned to her and made that comment. He was afraid not to!

I must live on a different planet. Thank god though, thank god.
 
"He's going down" means simply "he's losing". Using the term "sweetie" the way Christi did, was talking down, being a smart ass, to the heckler. So what big deal on the whole thing. It's politics and the woman was being rude and her interruption at a republican rally was rude. He was rude back. Neither he nor the heckler were right to act the way they did. His rudeness was spot on, Obama, is going down.
 
icedancer2theend said:
"He's going down" means simply "he's losing". Using the term "sweetie" the way Christi did, was talking down, being a smart ass, to the heckler. So what big deal on the whole thing. It's politics and the woman was being rude and her interruption at a republican rally was rude. He was rude back. Neither he nor the heckler were right to act the way they did. His rudeness was spot on, Obama, is going down.
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But he didn't say "he's going down." He said "something may go down tonight, but it ain't gonna be jobs, sweetheart. . . " And why would Obama be going down the evening of January 8, 2012? It makes no sense.
 
I thought sex, according to you libtards, was something to be publicly celebrated. Wasn't Christie therefore complimenting her?
 
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