danish health care

[tinfoil]

I know several Canadians who love there health care system.

this moron can't even keep there and their seperate in his little pea-brain, yet he feels compelled to share his wisdom with the world. Jarod is an example of the feel good education system. He's been taught his failure is acceptable. He feels there is nothing wrong with not being able to spell one syllable words.

Wait until this mouth breather reproduces and has little illiterates of his own

 

[Jarod]

this moron can't even keep there and their seperate in his little pea-brain, yet he feels compelled to share his wisdom with the world. Jarod is an example of the feel good education system. He's been taught his failure is acceptable. He feels there is nothing wrong with not being able to spell one syllable words.

Wait until this mouth breather reproduces and has little illiterates of his own

Your ignorance abounds!

 

[tinfoil]

LOL
good comeback, spelling bee

 

[Canceled2]

my point was that it is an excellent health care system run by a government and it costs less than our health 'system'

but then denmark is a small nation and more densely populated

Overview
Objective: To assess the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats to the Danish health system by comparing approaches and performance with the U.S. health care system.

Design: In-depth interviews with federal and county health officials in Denmark, hospital managers and clinical leaders; site visits to Danish hospitals, primary care practices, and "off-hours" service; literature review of Danish health system performance; analysis of comparative international surveys and data.

Main outcome measures: Health expenditures, public satisfaction with health care; expert perceptions of quality, access, equity, and efficiency of Danish health system.

Results: Primary care is much more accessible in Denmark than the U.S. A mixed capitation-fee-for-service method of paying generalist physicians in Denmark assures that everyone has a primary care physician, and generalist physicians are responsive to providing services quickly, typically same day appointments. An organized off-hours service assures accessible care 24 hour a day, 7 days a week care. Denmark has the highest public satisfaction with health care, reflecting the value placed on accessibility of primary care. Inpatient hospital care consumes a disproportionate share of Danish health expenditures. Global hospital budgets provide little incentive for hospital or surgical productivity. Long waits for hospitalization, especially surgical procedures, and cancellation of scheduled surgery are a source of patient dissatisfaction. Women's health, patient health risk counseling, and coordination of preventive and primary care are major weaknesses of the Danish health system. Patients have choice of primary care physician within a given geographic area, and may go to a hospital of their choice. However, patient surveys and feedback are underdeveloped, and very little effort has been made to make services responsive to patients' preferences. While innovations in electronic prescribing are noteworthy, further development of health information technology is needed.

 

[zappasguitar]

this moron can't even keep there and their seperate in his little pea-brain, yet he feels compelled to share his wisdom with the world. Jarod is an example of the feel good education system. He's been taught his failure is acceptable. He feels there is nothing wrong with not being able to spell one syllable words.

Wait until this mouth breather reproduces and has little illiterates of his own

You've got to love it when the spelling cop forgets that the first letter of the first word of a sentence should be CAPITALIZED.

Tell Jarod how stupid he is...come on...dazzle everyone with your own stupidity.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

The reason no one mentions the Danish health care system, is because it is irrelevant to the discussion. Denmark is a very small Scandinavian country, with a population of around 5 million. About 90% of the population is Danish, the other 10% are an assortment of Greeks, Germans, Brits, etc. They have a very small number of true immigrants, and virtually no illegal immigrants. This means, most of the people of Denmark know each other, are familiar with each others families, and they live in small, tight-knit communities, for the most part. With the exception of Copenhagen, the country is largely rural. It's also very cold in Denmark, there is not as much 'hustle and bustle' going on, people tend to stay at home.

Dixie, I don't really need to point this out, but you are a fucking idiot, and you're talking out of your ass about things which you have know knowledge. Denmark is a nation of 5 million compressed into a small space. It as as population dense as New York state. 22% of it's area has a population density of above 2k people per km. Of course, you're right, the west part of the country does have lower density than the usual. The west part has 90 people per km, as compared to 20 per a km in Mississippi. And if you think how people live in Mississippi live today is "living in tight-knit communities, where everyone knows each other", you don't know much of anything.

I can't draw many conculsions on the total % of their population that is immigrant, illegal or otherwise, but I don't think you can either, besides pulling it out of your ass (or counting how many darkies they have, as you did above).

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I think you hit the nail right on the head of why you can't really compare the Danish system (or even Canada's for that matter) to ours because of the economy of scale that you're pointing out.

Economy of scale would lower costs.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Did you know there are no waiting times in the US? I know, by my last doctor's visit, and my last scheduled surgery, I was very surprised myself, but that's what conservatives keep on telling me.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

And, of course, I'm the guy that actually has health insurance. Still have to pay for most of my medical care, and it costs the employer a ridiculous sum of money, but I've got it.

 

[TuTu Monroe]

Americans love the Canadian helath care system as well. How about the prescription drugs from Canada that the republicans have fought for so long?

How bout' the US has a higher cancer survival rate over Canada?

 

[Don Quixote]

Sorry, DQ, i keep forgetting that the necessity and desirability of government involvement in providing basic healthcare isn't just taken as red in the US.

red?

 

[Don Quixote]

The reason no one mentions the Danish health care system, is because it is irrelevant to the discussion. Denmark is a very small Scandinavian country, with a population of around 5 million. About 90% of the population is Danish, the other 10% are an assortment of Greeks, Germans, Brits, etc. They have a very small number of true immigrants, and virtually no illegal immigrants. This means, most of the people of Denmark know each other, are familiar with each others families, and they live in small, tight-knit communities, for the most part. With the exception of Copenhagen, the country is largely rural. It's also very cold in Denmark, there is not as much 'hustle and bustle' going on, people tend to stay at home.

Comparing ANYTHING from Denmark with that of the US, is like comparing Mayberry to New York. Can you comprehend the silliness of such comparisons? Systems which may work efficiently and sufficiently for a small town, are wholly inadequate for a large metropolitan city. Cooperative arrangements which work well among friends and neighbors, don't always translate to large diverse groups of total strangers. It is simple human nature, and a matter of trust between people, but small communities tend to be more personally responsible.

Here is a good example of what I mean... My family moved to a small rural town when I was 10 years old, and basically, everyone knew each other. Our town had a Community Center. This building was free for the citizens to use at any time, it always remained unlocked and available for wedding receptions and meetings, and the only obligation was to clean up after yourself when you were done. Now this arrangement worked in a small town, with a small group of people who knew and trusted one another.... but such a facility was impossible to have in a large metropolitan city, vandals would have seen to that.

Much is the same with regard to nationalized health care. IF we lived in a country where 90% of us were locals who knew and trusted each other, a nationalized system may work, especially if our populous were small and isolated due to the cold climate. But that is not what we have in America. Instead of 5 million with 90% natives, we are 300 million, with less than 2% natives. Instead of living in a culture where we may travel 30 miles in our lifetime, we live in a hustle-bustle society constantly on the move and on the go. It is because of this stark difference in culture, population, and condition, that comparisons are irrelevant.

while 'most of the population is rural' their is still a large city to deal with

while immigration is not a major problem in denmark, you forgot to add that it has a high standard of education and a high level of education per capita

a highly litterate population

 

[Don Quixote]

The reason no one mentions the Danish health care system, is because it is irrelevant to the discussion.
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:lmao:

my version.

I love a good danish with a good cup of coffee.

so come to solvang, a nearby danish settlement

 

[Don Quixote]

The three weeks I spend in Denmark was one of the best three week periods in my live. Its an amazing place, great food, wonderfull people, great girls (I was 17), loads of fun loving people, beautifull views, little poverty, and great weather (it was June) ohh and did I mention the girls?.

you mean beautiful, long legged, blue eyed and blond...

 

[Don Quixote]

I think you hit the nail right on the head of why you can't really compare the Danish system (or even Canada's for that matter) to ours because of the economy of scale that you're pointing out. That is a big leap. Having said that, I question that information alone is adequate to draw the conclusion that a some form of national health care plan would not work. There are advantages for this nation by having some type of national health care system. Hell, I'd settle for a State ran one if it meant I could take my kid to the doctor for falling off her bike and not end up paying $10,000 for a bunch of MRI's that weren't really needed. THAT'S WHAT SUCKS ABOUT OUR SYSTEM! Somethings got to be done about cost. So if the Danish are operating a system that is cost affective for them, then that something we need to explore, study and learn what we can from them.

That's the ugly gorilla in the room that nobody wants to talk about. Cost. What do we want to pay for and how much are we willing to pay. I'd say that were smart enough in the USA that we can figure out a way to manage our health care resources in this nation in a manor so that if someone has a serious injury or illness, that they should neither be denied basic treatment nor should they be financially wiped out or placed ruinously into debt. There has got to be a way in this country that we can manage our resources to do this at an acceptable cost to the public.

if nothing else, we could get non-emergency cases out of our emergency rooms or people not waiting until their medical problem becomes an emergency

 

[uscitizen]

Exactly, and the current liberal socialist plan doesn't even go near the "cost" aspect! It is simply a measure to take the cost paid currently by the consumer, and transferring it to the government and the taxpayer. Instead of doing something this insane, we should be taking a comprehensive look at what drives the cost up, and tackle those issues first. THEN, we can discuss ways to handle health care needs for citizens who can't afford them.

We are already paying much more per capita than France and we have millions not even covered.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

while 'most of the population is rural' their is still a large city to deal with

while immigration is not a major problem in denmark, you forgot to add that it has a high standard of education and a high level of education per capita

a highly litterate population

I don't know that I would call Copenhagen 'large' really, I think they are just over a million population, which is a 'small' city in the US. And yes, the per capita education level is higher, but that only means health care issues are less of a social problem, right? Isn't it mostly poor uneducated people who contract disease and put off going to the doctors? Don't the studies suggest, more educated people also tend to be more diligent about their health?

And the "no illegal immigrants" detail is fairly huge. We have at least 10 million, perhaps as many as 20 million or more, illegal aliens, who have no insurance and because they are human beings and medical facilities are obligate to care for human beings in need of medical care, our emergency rooms are clogged with these people. The Obama/Democrat plan, doesn't "fix" this problem, it merely passes it off to the taxpayer to cover!

 

[Don Quixote]

I don't know that I would call Copenhagen 'large' really, I think they are just over a million population, which is a 'small' city in the US. And yes, the per capita education level is higher, but that only means health care issues are less of a social problem, right? Isn't it mostly poor uneducated people who contract disease and put off going to the doctors? Don't the studies suggest, more educated people also tend to be more diligent about their health?

And the "no illegal immigrants" detail is fairly huge. We have at least 10 million, perhaps as many as 20 million or more, illegal aliens, who have no insurance and because they are human beings and medical facilities are obligate to care for human beings in need of medical care, our emergency rooms are clogged with these people. The Obama/Democrat plan, doesn't "fix" this problem, it merely passes it off to the taxpayer to cover!

the thought that under educated and the poor are more likely to defer medical due to their situation is not so true as they cannot afford to go to a regular doctor when they are ill let alone try preventative measures

clinics that provide health care for no charge would reduce the likelihood of communicateable diseases being spread from the poor to the wealthy...

 

[Cypress]

The reason no one mentions the Danish health care system, is because it is irrelevant to the discussion. Denmark is a very small Scandinavian country, with a population of around 5 million. About 90% of the population is Danish, the other 10% are an assortment of Greeks, Germans, Brits, etc. They have a very small number of true immigrants, and virtually no illegal immigrants. This means, most of the people of Denmark know each other, are familiar with each others families, and they live in small, tight-knit communities, for the most part. With the exception of Copenhagen, the country is largely rural. It's also very cold in Denmark, there is not as much 'hustle and bustle' going on, people tend to stay at home.

Oh christ, the Brian Kilmeade argument, that because we're not a "pure" species in this nation we can't have scandanavian universal healthcare.

I would really like to know which rightwinger invented the argument that universal health care only works in "small", and evidently ethnically "pure" countries. What a load of horseshit. Its like Cons have pretty much given up contributing anything constructive to the health care debate, and are reduced to pathetic arguments about a nations "size" and racial "purity" with regard to effective universal healthcare.

What exactly is the "magic" number, at which a nation can have effective universal health care. Does it stop at five million? Ten million?

Dixie, please explain why countries like france and germany with, what, 60 to 80 million people, have effective government financed universal health care programs? What is the magic cut-off number where universal health care doesn't work? What a load of shit.

Dixie, you cons have nothing to contribute to the health care debate. I hope to god you, or one of your relatives doesn't die some day because a private insurance company won't cover their pre-existing condition. And I hope you don't ever lose your job, and your health insurance, and are forced to shop for health insurance on the private market. Especially at your age, and if you have any existing health problems.

Your precious free market just might kill you or a loved one dixie.

But that is not what we have in America. Instead of 5 million with 90% natives, we are 300 million, with less than 2% natives. Instead of living in a culture where we may travel 30 miles in our lifetime, we live in a hustle-bustle society constantly on the move and on the go. It is because of this stark difference in culture, population, and condition, that comparisons are irrelevant.

Okay, we get it. More of your Nazi, racial purity arguments.

And dixie, what's the crap about how we're "on the go"? What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

And listen up Einstein. I know you've never been out of the country - probably never out of your state. But I know a lot of scandinavians. And they are more physically active, healthy, slim, and "on the go" compared to you fat ass, out of shape, lethargic, sloth-like southerners.

 

[uscitizen]

Danish healthcare? Do sweet rolls get sick?