DC Liberal Dem Run Suburb: Get Vaccinated or be taken from your kids and locked up

since when did the dems get on board with the pharmaceuticals anyways? this autism epidemic reminds me of people ignoring of the AIDS epidemic.. well it cant be proven..
 
Thorn said:
I respect your opinions on these things (and others). Having just been forced to undergo these immunizations by Immigration, I'm interested in your reasons for this viewpoint. Thanks.
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I'd be interested in hearing about it too because everything I've read suggests that widespread use of vaccinations has resulted in remarkable decreases in the spread of infectious diseases and deaths caused by infectious diseases. By all means, convince me otherwise if I am in error.
 
Thorn said:
I respect your opinions on these things (and others). Having just been forced to undergo these immunizations by Immigration, I'm interested in your reasons for this viewpoint. Thanks.
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Chicken pox is annoying, but non-fatal, so I'm not even going to entertain any argument that use of force with regard to this could be valid. As to HPV, from WHO documents -

"Of the 2 billion people who have been infected with the hepatitis B virus (HBV), more than 350 million have chronic (lifelong) infections. These chronically infected persons are at high risk of death from cirrhosis of the liver and liver cancer, diseases that kill about one million persons each year." If there are larger causes of death attributable to HPV, WHO does not name them. A typical position paper talks about the greatest causes / sources / outcomes.

Time for a little math - of the entire population of HPV infected globally (2 billion), 350 million are chronic (17.5%).

Look at the second sentence. One million at risk from cirrhosis and liver cancer; BUT, HPV is NOT the sole cause of these diseases. So AT MOST, we have a .05% annual mortality rate attributed to HPV from these two inputs.

Furthermore, there's this - "Hepatitis B virus is transmitted by contact with blood or body fluids of an infected person.

The main ways of getting infected with HBV are:

* Perinatal (from mother to baby at the birth)
* Child-to-child transmission
* Unsafe injections and transfusions
* Sexual contact

Worldwide, most infections occur from infected mother to child, from child to child contact in household settings, and from reuse of unsterilized needles and syringes. In many developing countries, almost all children become infected with the virus. (Child-to-child contact seems to be a nice way of saying "playing with poop.")

In many industrialized countries (e.g. Western Europe and North America), the pattern of transmission is different. In these countries, mother-to-infant and child-to-child transmission accounted for up to one third of chronic infections before childhood hepatitis B vaccination programmes were implemented. However, the majority of infections in these countries are acquired during young adulthood by sexual activity, and injecting drug use.

It is a communicable disease NOT spread by casual contact.
 
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Fair enough. I had chicken pox, as many did, as well as the whole gamut of childhood infectious diseases, and have no ill effects. Indeed, I read just this week that people who have had these diseases are likely to have lifelong immunity against them. I am not at risk for HPV-B, and a couple of years ago would have been excused from the immunization requirement simply because of my country of origin. I love bureaucracy, don't you? :rolleyes:
 
Demosthenes said:
Not an individual decision? I thought I lived in the land of the free; perhaps I was lied to my whole life about what this country was founded on. We've gone over 200 years as a nation without a vaccine for chicken pox. I remember when I missed school when I caught them. What is the big deal? They are going to throw the parents in jail for ten (10) days for not getting their own kids vaccinated for a malady that lasts only five? What is the point, other than the government once again telling us what we have to do to live 'free?'
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It's as much of an "individual decision" as deciding to steal or take heroin is. If we just let it go crazy society would be harmed in general.
 
LadyT said:
The problem I have with this is a) its a gift horse to big pharma b) it assumes that vaccinations are 100% safe and I completely sympathesize with parents who'd want to hold off and see what the effects are on the general population before giving it to their kids. I know I personally don't use anything new to market and would be hesitant to give my child something that was relatively new unless the situation was serious.
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It's not new. It's a goddamn vaccination. The fearmonering reports that people are sending out are hurting our populations general health. The people who opt out become a breeding ground for the disease to mutate to the point where the vaccinated peoples vaccine is no longer effective, and thusly, you have an epidemic. It's your social responsibility to get vaccinated.
 
Chapdog said:
Exactly.. i have friends that are completely convinced that there kids turned autistic based on the accumulation of to many vaccines. There are thousands of people who feel this way.. You going to threaten to put me in jail if i don't put give my kid a hepatitis shot? I say FUCK YOU
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Yeah, stop listenening to fearmongering lieing reports from non-medical experts. STOP TRYING TO DESTROY SOCIETY YOU FUCKER.
 
Chapdog said:
my son will never get some of those things.. nor any flu vaccinations. i want his mind sharp.
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He may die because of his fathers irresponsibility. I just don't hope his father's irresponsibility and selfishness contributes to the murder of any other kids.
 
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Chapdog said:
since when did the dems get on board with the pharmaceuticals anyways? this autism epidemic reminds me of people ignoring of the AIDS epidemic.. well it cant be proven..
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First off, retard, austism does not MANIFEST ITSELF IN ADOLESCENCE. People are BORN with it. If you gave your son vaccinations now, there would be no chance in hell that he would get autism.

Second, autism is not retardation. If anything, it would make his mind sharper, just less sociable.

Third, these "reports" about it were not done by medical professionals, there's no real evidence, and at most it could be summed up to STATISTICAL ERROR.
 
Let the record show that Watermark advocates using the threat of violence and imprisonment to force his left-wing, radical communist agenda on the unsuspecting folks in Prince George County.
 
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