Dec durable goods orders up 4.6 percent

Thing1 said:
LOL - the market is back up.

Could it possibly be that investors are considering any factors outside of that one report?
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Wow... so many idiots, so little time to correct them all. Dear Mr. Straw man maker... I did not say that the market was only responding to this one report. However, if the report was very very very good news as toppy proclaimed, it should have moved the market higher.
 
Superfreak said:
Wow... so many idiots, so little time to correct them all. Dear Mr. Straw man maker... I did not say that the market was only responding to this one report. However, if the report was very very very good news as toppy proclaimed, it should have moved the market higher.
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If the market moved higher strictly because of this one report being good news, then the market is only responding to this one report.

It's interesting that I used to think you were somewhat intelligent.
 
Thing1 said:
If the market moved higher strictly because of this one report being good news, then the market is only responding to this one report.

It's interesting that I used to think you were somewhat intelligent.
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You truly are an idiot. No, the market would not be responding to ONLY this report. But if it were as good as toppy was stating, it would be enough to drive the market up despite other reports that came out today.
 
Superfreak said:
You truly are an idiot. No, the market would not be responding to ONLY this report. But if it were as good as toppy was stating, it would be enough to drive the market up despite other reports that came out today.
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That's a ridiculous blanket statement. And it assumes that the market only responds to reports in general.

The market has had a lot of recent gains. It may just be catching its breath. To say it would surely go up because of one good report ignores decades of market history.
 
Thing1 said:
That's a ridiculous blanket statement. And it assumes that the market only responds to reports in general.
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1) No, it is not a ridiculous statement... it is a statement in response to toppy's exaggeration of how good this report is. A point that is lost on morons like you.

2) Seriously... you must be running low on straw by now, the statement makes no such assumption.

The market has had a lot of recent gains. It may just be catching its breath. To say it would surely go up because of one good report ignores decades of market history.
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Dear idiot, if the report was as over the top good as toppy proclaimed, the market would indeed be going higher. The entire point is that toppy is exaggerating this one month report on durable goods. You are too fucking retarded to even grasp that basic fact.
 
Supertool you super hack!
Does your boss give you the sales pitch to stick too like you do with conservatard bs!
The market has already been up 8 straight days, it's the epitome of stupidity to claim you know why the market would move on any particular day!
You have been taking a shit on the Obama economy from day 1.
I was busy quadrupling my money.
 
The Dude said:
Supertool you super hack!
Does your boss give you the sales pitch to stick too like you do with conservatard bs!
The market has already been up 8 straight days, it's the epitome of stupidity to claim you know why the market would move on any particular day!
You have been taking a shit on the Obama economy from day 1.
I was busy quadrupling my money.
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LOL... poor toppy... the market does move based on the economic reports that come out on a given day. The DG was simply not as super duper awesome as you proclaimed.

I would be willing to bet you did not quadruple your money in the past four years.
 
Superfreak said:
LOL... poor toppy... the market does move based on the economic reports that come out on a given day. The DG was simply not as super duper awesome as you proclaimed.

I would be willing to bet you did not quadruple your money in the past four years.
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How much?
Sometimes markets go own on good reports, especially after 8 straight days!
 
The Dude said:
How much?
Sometimes markets go own on good reports, especially after 8 straight days!
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You keep saying 8 straight days like that is some kind of record... and no, markets do not go down on good reports. Some individual stocks may, but the markets as a whole go up on reports that are as super awesome as you think the DG report was. The problem toppy is that housing came out down 4.3% for existing sales, consumer confidence is slipping, the debt is a massive problem that the idiots in DC keep kicking down the road 3-6 months at a time, unemployment is still above 7.5%.
 
Superfreak said:
You keep saying 8 straight days like that is some kind of record... and no, markets do not go down on good reports. Some individual stocks may, but the markets as a whole go up on reports that are as super awesome as you think the DG report was. The problem toppy is that housing came out down 4.3% for existing sales, consumer confidence is slipping, the debt is a massive problem that the idiots in DC keep kicking down the road 3-6 months at a time, unemployment is still above 7.5%.
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Personally, I think SF has lost his mind. Is anyone else reading this stuff? A good report should always send the market up, but the market doesn't respond to single reports and there are many factors involved regarding whether it goes up & down.

Black is white, up is down, cats are dogs.
 
Thing1 said:
Personally, I think SF has lost his mind. Is anyone else reading this stuff? A good report should always send the market up, but the market doesn't respond to single reports and there are many factors involved regarding whether it goes up & down.

Black is white, up is down, cats are dogs.
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Personally I think your reading comprehension skills need a lot of work. Either that or you are deliberately being a douche bag troll.
 
The Dude said:
Rick santelli teabagger chief called it very very very good number!
Again I'll take Wall Street icons over a used car salesman
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For Lorax: The above is what we have been discussing... either try to pay attention or remain silent. It is the degree of awesomeness that toppy thinks that report had that we are discussing. Not just any report that comes out.
 
Superfreak said:
For Lorax: The above is what we have been discussing... either try to pay attention or remain silent. It is the degree of awesomeness that toppy thinks that report had that we are discussing. Not just any report that comes out.
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He said it's a very good # - and it is.

That doesn't always translate into immediate market gains. If you think it does. you know almost nothing about the market. Almost nothing.
 
Thing1 said:
He said it's a very good # - and it is.

That doesn't always translate into immediate market gains. If you think it does. you know almost nothing about the market. Almost nothing.
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No, it was not. The bulk of it came from civilian aircraft and other transports. Transports have traditionally not been included in the headline number because of the degree of volatility they have. Same with defense. But now we get the overall number because that makes everyone think it is so very rosy.

Ex transports was 1.3%. For Capital goods it was up 0.2% (and down year over year). Those who actually understand what the indicators components are understand that it was a decent report but not the very very very good number toppy heard some nut on CNBC spout on about.

As I stated long ago (and you ignored) the market does indeed respond to the reports of the day and this one did not drive the market up, which if it was a super duper as toppy claimed, it would have. It instead was pulled down by the other data coming out yesterday.

It is quite comical listening to you telling me how little I know of the market, when I would be willing to bet you had no clue what the indicator even meant, let alone how it breaks down.
 
Superfreak said:
1) No, it is not a ridiculous statement... it is a statement in response to toppy's exaggeration of how good this report is. A point that is lost on morons like you.

2) Seriously... you must be running low on straw by now, the statement makes no such assumption.



Dear idiot, if the report was as over the top good as toppy proclaimed, the market would indeed be going higher. The entire point is that toppy is exaggerating this one month report on durable goods. You are too fucking retarded to even grasp that basic fact.
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A repeat appears necessary as Lorax continues to fail to grasp what is being discussed.
 
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