Defense Of Marriage Act Ruled Unconstitutional By Second Federal Judge

There are enough of them that the US Military includes it in the training for their chaplains.

I notice you haven't answered my question, despite having all your questions answered. Should I expect to wait a week for any answers?
Government is PC central, WB. That is a weak example.

The church vs home thing is a moot point. Both can be holy, but both have their specific purposes. Marriage is most appropriately performed in a church.
 
Government is PC central, WB. That is a weak example.

The church vs home thing is a moot point. Both can be holy, but both have their specific purposes. Marriage is most appropriately performed in a church.

No, it is a perfect example of the gov't accomodating all beliefs, as it should. (within reason) So many people get too focused on Christianity and forget the gov't is there to serve everyone.

Why is it more appropriate in a home? Should the couple be the ones to decide where they should be married? And lest you forget, secular marriage is a big part of the whole scenario.
 
Thank God I never opposed gay marriage.....homos have every right to get married.....equal rights....

Men just can't marry men or women marry women......though women have been known to marry some pigs.....

So you're in the camp of "separate but equal", huh.
 
Hmmm. Let's say my wife up and tells me one day that maybe we are wrong about our official stance on the sanctity of marriage, and she begins to have doubts about our religious belifs in general. Let's say this is due to her being guilted into supporting a feminist lesbian co-worker who won't shut up about how she is causing the lesbian's suffering because of her beliefs. Are you trying to tell me that this would have zero affect on our marriage?

If she's being guilted then it sounds like she needs to take responsibility for herself instead of being pushed around.
 
Apparently you have never opened a book and read the writings of Jefferson, Paine, and the other Founding Fathers, they wanted their new country to be unlike England where there was a state religion.

You do not value others rights, you are trying to make your religious values into law.

Go back and read your comments, you contradict yourself, but you will once again fail to see it.


And how about that cut-and-paste Jefferson Bible!
 
There are enough of them that the US Military includes it in the training for their chaplains.

I notice you haven't answered my question, despite having all your questions answered. Should I expect to wait a week for any answers?

Thanks, I love to learn new tidbits!
 
Government is PC central, WB. That is a weak example.

The church vs home thing is a moot point. Both can be holy, but both have their specific purposes. Marriage is most appropriately performed in a church.

No, it isn't, that is ridiculous! My mom and dad were married before a justice of the peace before he left for France during WWIi and they will celebrate 70 years of marriage this December, and I already gave you the example of my marriage. A great many people who have church marriages end in divorce. It doesn't matter where or who, it matters what you do afterwards.
 
And you will be setting a date......congratulations....

Is that the best you have? When you disagree with someone, call them gay? Seems pretty immature to me. No, one mustn't be gay just because they support equality. Within 5 years or so, gay marriage will be the law of the land, because that is the Constitutional thing to do. There is nothing you can do to stop it. And sooner or later, the GOP will drop the issue altogether from their platform.
 
Heel, Zappa!

Let's get started, shall we?

WOW....Condescending right off the bat...that tells me right away you are worried about the weakness of our argument.

Sanctity: holiness of life and character: GODLINESS
2a : the quality or state of being holy or sacred
According to Merriam Webster’s Online Dictionary, the word “Sanctity” comes from God.

It says nothing of the sort.

according to MW.com:

Origin of SANCTITY
Middle English saunctite, from Anglo-French sainteté, from Latin sanctitat-, sanctitas, from sanctus sacred
First Known Use: 14th century

are you going to claim God waited until the 14th century to give us the word "sanctity"? so marriage wasn't sanctified until the 14th century?


In the Holy Bible, God has given His directive on marriage in the following two scriptures:

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
The current U.S. Marriage Law is in harmony with Genesis 2:24. To deviate from Genesis 2:24 is to deviate from the will of God.

Well then, 50+% of all marriages "deviate from the will of God"


Gay Rights activists are deviating from the will of God, in that they wish to see people of the same sex becoming “One flesh” or “Married”. Because of this, gay activists are also deviating from Matthew 19:6, as they seek to “put asunder” what God hath joined together. In some cases this may be unintentional, as many gays & lesbians insist this is harmless; that the feelings they share for each other are in fact true love. But a closer examination of this reveals that there is more to their “true love” than just sharing reciprocal feelings.

You mean it's your OPINION that gay rights activists are deviating from the will of God...sounds like another Christian wants to sit in judgement of others...

But stnce you appear to on a roll, by all means enlighten us as to this devious plot contrived by loving gay and lesbian couples to put asunder what God hath joined and how the current 50+% divorce rate is just a part of their plot.

Explain, PRECISELY, what you mean by "more to their true love" than just reciprocal feelings...I'm sure someone as narrow minded as yourself will have an entertaining "definition" ready.

Tremendous pressure is being placed on virtually anyone who supports the will of God. If one does not conform to the wishes of these activists, then consequences will follow; usually in the form of abusive verbal treatment, or even worse. Sometimes this can create dissention among followers of God, as some believers become riddled with guilt and begin to doubt their convictions. At times, this “guilt” factor also makes its way into heterosexual marriages, as this can help cause a divide between “What God hath joined together”.


Oh no..."verbal abusive treatment" is what you're worried about?

So when our parents taught us that sticks and stones may break my bones BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT ME...they meant everyone but guilty homophobic Christians?

You're going to have to do better than whining about someone calling you some names...

Liberalism is chiefly about giving and receiving guilt. Gay activism happens to fall right in line with this mindset. Throw that on an already massive fire of induced shame, and it doesn’t leave much incentive for the rest of us to continue putting up with your idea of compromise.

More nonsensical OPINION.

biblical quotes and your own personal opinion don't count...

Come back with some hard, quantifiable evidence, that gay marriage destroys the sanctity of marriage.

Until then your opinion is all you've got, and that just isn't enough to justify your feelings.
 
No, it is a perfect example of the gov't accomodating all beliefs, as it should. (within reason)
No, it is an awful example, as the government has saddled itself with an impossible task. It has become too broad based in its accomodations, and now the shit is about to hit the fan.

Why is it more appropriate in a home?
Because dedicated marriage is probably the most important thing we can do as followers of Jesus. Why do you think Temples of the Lord were built?

Should the couple be the ones to decide where they should be married?
Sure. If they don't care what God thinks.
 
No, it is an awful example, as the government has saddled itself with an impossible task. It has become too broad based in its accomodations, and now the shit is about to hit the fan.

Because dedicated marriage is probably the most important thing we can do as followers of Jesus. Why do you think Temples of the Lord were built?

Sure. If they don't care what God thinks.

So, you are for making some citizens second class, To you, Christians should be given all their rights, but, screw everyone else.
 
No, it is an awful example, as the government has saddled itself with an impossible task. It has become too broad based in its accomodations, and now the shit is about to hit the fan.

Because dedicated marriage is probably the most important thing we can do as followers of Jesus. Why do you think Temples of the Lord were built?

Sure. If they don't care what God thinks.

Since we are discussing gay marriage laws in the USA, your posts are irrelevant.

The gov't can either saddle itself with the task of accomodating all faiths or it can accomodate none. Picking one because of your beliefs is not an option.

I think the temples were built to centralize control and take in money. Fellowship and worship (meaning celebration) do not require a church.

I don't think most people know what God thinks. I think most of that is about what certain want.
 
So, you are for making some citizens second class, To you, Christians should be given all their rights, but, screw everyone else.
We must have a prevailing standard, Rana, and Christianity makes the most sense. It certainly has the richest & strongest heritage. America does not need to be watered down. Try Europe or Canada; I think you'll find those places more to your liking.
 
We must have a prevailing standard, Rana, and Christianity makes the most sense. It certainly has the richest & strongest heritage. America does not need to be watered down. Try Europe or Canada; I think you'll find those places more to your liking.

^^ This display of arrogance and superiority is what gives Xtians a bad name.
 
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