Define a 'Liberal' or a 'Conservative'

DamnYankee said:
Solitary, here's an idea: shut the fuck up. :)
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:rofl:

Aww, does it bother you that I shoot holes in your arguments? I see you doing the same old sidestep dancing. What has it been, 3 pages of you focusing on Hitler's soul so you can avoid answering the very simple questions or debating the actual issue?

Sorry, but I am not gonna shut the fuck up. Unless you want to try and shut me up? :good4u:
 
DamnYankee said:
You shoot blanks at my arguments and ejaculate semen all over your keyboard, apparently.
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Oh? Is that why you refuse to answer a simple question? Shall I restate it for you?

Can you tell us what benefits the state gets from straight marriages that it would not get from gay marriages?

Or would you care to tell us all how you know for certain that Hitler is in hell and that he did not repent and accept Jesus into his heart before he died?
 
WinterBorn said:
Oh? Is that why you refuse to answer a simple question? Shall I restate it for you?

Can you tell us what benefits the state gets from straight marriages that it would not get from gay marriages?

Or would you care to tell us all how you know for certain that Hitler is in hell and that he did not repent and accept Jesus into his heart before he died?
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Marriage has always been defined as a man and a woman. The new age progressive agenda is to change the definition of marriage from what it has traditionally always been in this country. It has nothing to do with civil rights, but has everything to do with the new age progressive agenda of taking down the Judeo/Christian traditional American values.
 
Alias said:
Marriage has always been defined as a man and a woman. The new age progressive agenda is to change the definition of marriage from what it has traditionally always been in this country. It has nothing to do with civil rights, but has everything to do with the new age progressive agenda of taking down the Judeo/Christian traditional American values.
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First of all, we here in the United States do not base laws on religious beliefs.

Second of all, nothing anyone does can change your values.

Third of all, allowing gays to marry will not effect your marriage at all.

Fourth of all, it has everything to do with civil rights and equality.
 
DamnYankee said:
By answering that way you are simply avoiding the argument. Hitler was alive so he had to have a soul. Christians believe that souls continue to exist after death. Obviously Hitler's soul is not in heaven, but you stated that you don't believe in hell. I'm asking you to explain how your beliefs thus make sense. Where is the logic? :)
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So you claim to know for certain how God judged Hitler?


Forgive him Lord for his arrogance in assuming he could ever understand Your actions...


btw...who says Heaven, or the "afterlife" must be logical?


Another arrogant presumption on your part.
 
poet said:
Is that supposed to dismiss the notion that you are batshit crazy, because you found a conditional fallacy which supports your position?
I give a fuck. I refused to be convinced that you aren't the most mentally disturbed forum member. And you have the audacity to cite logical fallacies. Too funny.
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You've got him on the ropes now...whenever DY trots out his "logicalfallacies" website link, he's run out of responses and is trying to sidetrack the discussion.

Up next...keep an eye out for the petulant ad hom
 
WinterBorn said:
First of all, we here in the United States do not base laws on religious beliefs.

Second of all, nothing anyone does can change your values.

Third of all, allowing gays to marry will not effect your marriage at all.

Fourth of all, it has everything to do with civil rights and equality.
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I never said anything about religious beliefs. I said the definition of marriage in this country has always been a man and a woman. Straw man.

It has nothing to do with civil rights and equality. If that were true, then marriage in this counry has been denying civil rights and equality for over 200 years. Also, over 70% of blacks in California voted against gay marriage. If gay marriage is about civil rights, then why would 70% of black people vote against it?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
You've got him on the ropes now...whenever DY trots out his "logicalfallacies" website link, he's run out of responses and is trying to sidetrack the discussion.

Up next...keep an eye out for the petulant ad hom
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Right Zippy, when I score a debate point by pointing out my opponent's error that clearly means that I've "run out of responses". LOL
 
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