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poet said:
Christ never spoke to the matter. The Levitical Code was meant for the Hebrews, not Christians. And the Pauline Letters were written by a man who is suspected of being a repressed homosexual, if not, a misogynist. If it were so important a topic, it would have been included in the 10 Commandments.
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Homosexuality is shown as an abomination as early as Genesis, on through the Bible including the New Testament. Paul discussed it in Romans 1:
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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DamnYankee said:
Homosexuality is shown as an abomination as early as Genesis, on through the Bible including the New Testament. Paul discussed it in Romans 1: :)
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You lie. The Levitical Code was written for the Hebrews to help them survive in a hostile land. Sperm (or seed) could not be afforded to "go to waste" by Onanism (masturbation) or gay sex, as bodies were needed for work and war. It was a survival edict for the Hebrews. Not Christians.

Paul has been rumored to be a repressed homosexual, who despised women. If that was true, then his writings become hypocrisy and a moot point. In any event, Paul was addressing the practices surrounding temple prostitution in the Greek and Roman provinces. Not the general population.

An abomination, you say? Your racism, bigotry and homophobia is a far greater abomination in my eyes. And my eyes are the only ones that matter.
 
poet said:
You lie. The Levitical Code was written for the Hebrews to help them survive in a hostile land. Sperm (or seed) could not be afforded to "go to waste" by Onanism (masturbation) or gay sex, as bodies were needed for work and war. It was a survival edict for the Hebrews. Not Christians.

Paul has been rumored to be a repressed homosexual, who despised women. If that was true, then his writings become hypocrisy and a moot point. In any event, Paul was addressing the practices surrounding temple prostitution in the Greek and Roman provinces. Not the general population.

An abomination, you say? Your racism, bigotry and homophobia is a far greater abomination in my eyes. And my eyes are the only ones that matter.
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I haven't commented on the Levitical Code. I showed that homosexuality is shown to be an abomination throughout the Bible, from the first book to the NT.

You have no evidence whatsoever that the rock that Jesus built his church was gay. That's simply another attack on the messenger as well as another of your extreme twists to justify your views, which will be meaningless on your Judgement day. :)
 
DamnYankee said:
I haven't commented on the Levitical Code. I showed that homosexuality is shown to be an abomination throughout the Bible, from the first book to the NT.

You have no evidence whatsoever that the rock that Jesus built his church was gay. That's simply another attack on the messenger as well as another of your extreme twists to justify your views, which will be meaningless on your Judgement day. :)
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He said Paul was possibly gay, not Peter, the rock that the church was built on.

That's just another DY self pwn.
 
DamnYankee said:
I haven't commented on the Levitical Code. I showed that homosexuality is shown to be an abomination throughout the Bible, from the first book to the NT.

You have no evidence whatsoever that the rock that Jesus built his church was gay. That's simply another attack on the messenger as well as another of your extreme twists to justify your views, which will be meaningless on your Judgement day. :)
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You retarded Neanderthal. Where do you think the Levitical Code comes from? It comes from Leviticus, found in the Old Testament. And you have shown nothing.
I said Jesus didn't speak to the matter, nowhere in the New Testament. From that can be implied that it wasn't that important a topic to lose one's mind over.

Exactly. And since we were all commanded not to judge, you'll, no doubt, reap the wild wind, come "Judgment Day"....as you have done nothing but excused yourself, while condemning others, as if your sin was less than anyone else's.
 
poet said:
You retarded Neanderthal. Where do you think the Levitical Code comes from? It comes from Leviticus, found in the Old Testament. And you have shown nothing.
I said Jesus didn't speak to the matter, nowhere in the New Testament. From that can be implied that it wasn't that important a topic to lose one's mind over.

Exactly. And since we were all commanded not to judge, you'll, no doubt, reap the wild wind, come "Judgment Day"....as you have done nothing but excused yourself, while condemning others, as if your sin was less than anyone else's.
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You're really feeling your argument slip now, as evidence by your more direct insults. :)

Leviticus is the third book of the Pentateuch. Genesis is the first. Your attempt to deflect by being obtuse failed.

Again, you don't know what Jesus spoke of or not. Homosexuality has always been an abomination, so there was no reason to discuss it at length. He didn't speak about incest or cannibalism either, so by your logic those must be OK.
 
poet said:
You are, in fact, a comedy of errors. Peter, from petra, meaning rock or stone. Not Paul. But then, you know neither Bible history, or Christian dogma or doctrine. Hello?
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Actually, a real man readily admits his errors and moves on. You, however, spend hundreds of forum posts denying yours. :)
 
DamnYankee said:
You're really feeling your argument slip now, as evidence by your more direct insults. :)

Leviticus is the third book of the Pentateuch. Genesis is the first. Your attempt to deflect by being obtuse failed.

Again, you don't know what Jesus spoke of or not. Homosexuality has always been an abomination, so there was no reason to discuss it at length. He didn't speak about incest or cannibalism either, so by your logic those must be OK.
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Bitch, I've insulted you since I've known that you were you. Ain't nothing changed.
May I remind your stupid ass of what you wrote prior:

Originally Posted by DamnYankee

I haven't commented on the Levitical Code. I showed that homosexuality is shown to be an abomination throughout the Bible, from the first book to the NT.

You have no evidence whatsoever that the rock that Jesus built his church was gay. That's simply another attack on the messenger as well as another of your extreme twists to justify your views, which will be meaningless on your Judgement day.
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You said you "showed" that homosexuality was "shown" to be an abomination "throughout the Bible". You showed nothing. You mentioned Genesis, and the NT (and not specifically)
I know of what Jesus spoke, because in most of the Bibles I have ever read, his words are highlighted in "red". Find the passage where he specifically addresses the topic of homosexuality, punk. Homosexuality has always been an abomination to non-homosexuals. Heterosexuality has been adverse to homosexuals. So fucking what? Do you want a medal for stating the obvious? By inference, he didn't talk about the internet, because it hadn't been invented or even thought of yet. So fucking what? Now you're willing to concede the point that it wasn't a topic he deemed important enough to cover, so now you want to talk about all the things he didn't talk about. Who has the losing hand here? It wouldn't be me. I bet he figured it was conventional wisdom, at least among the populace with brains intact, that cannibalism and incest were "off limits", by default.
And you're thinking you can debate me? Bitch, you couldn't debate at the secondary level. You'd be eaten alive. Burp.
 
DamnYankee said:
Actually, a real man readily admits his errors and moves on. You, however, spend hundreds of forum posts denying yours. :)
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Bitch, I'm not in a pissing contest with you. You are trying your best to "best" me. And failing at every attempt. Because , you see...you are just a moronic, retarded racist, bigoted cretin...and I'm me. And your laundry of errors goes on and on and on and on...you'll be here, a while, recanting them. I'm going to make a cocktail. Get to work.
 
poet said:
Bitch, I've insulted you since I've known that you were you. Ain't nothing changed.
May I remind your stupid ass of what you wrote prior:

Originally Posted by DamnYankee



You said you "showed" that homosexuality was "shown" to be an abomination "throughout the Bible". You showed nothing. You mentioned Genesis, and the NT (and not specifically)
I know of what Jesus spoke, because in most of the Bibles I have ever read, his words are highlighted in "red". Find the passage where he specifically addresses the topic of homosexuality, punk. Homosexuality has always been an abomination to non-homosexuals. Heterosexuality has been adverse to homosexuals. So fucking what? Do you want a medal for stating the obvious? By inference, he didn't talk about the internet, because it hadn't been invented or even thought of yet. So fucking what? Now you're willing to concede the point that it wasn't a topic he deemed important enough to cover, so now you want to talk about all the things he didn't talk about. Who has the losing hand here? It wouldn't be me. I bet he figured it was conventional wisdom, at least among the populace with brains intact, that cannibalism and incest were "off limits", by default.
And you're thinking you can debate me? Bitch, you couldn't debate at the secondary level. You'd be eaten alive. Burp.
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:lol: You're argument is completely devoid of logic, and you call that debating?

1. "...he didn't talk about the internet, because it hadn't been invented or even thought of yet." Yet homosexuality was, and it was called an abomination.

2. Same quote portion. You claim to be a Christian scholar, yet you fail to understand the simple rule that when mentioning Jesus, the pronoun must be capitalized. Oops.

3. Since cannibalism and incest were off limits by default, a logical person would find the same applies to homosexuality. But not you.

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poet said:
Bitch, I'm not in a pissing contest with you. You are trying your best to "best" me. And failing at every attempt. Because , you see...you are just a moronic, retarded racist, bigoted cretin...and I'm me. And your laundry of errors goes on and on and on and on...you'll be here, a while, recanting them. I'm going to make a cocktail. Get to work.
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So you claim, yet you failed to prove any one of your claims. :)
 
DamnYankee said:
:lol: You're argument is completely devoid of logic, and you call that debating?

1. "...he didn't talk about the internet, because it hadn't been invented or even thought of yet." Yet homosexuality was, and it was called an abomination.

2. Same quote portion. You claim to be a Christian scholar, yet you fail to understand the simple rule that when mentioning Jesus, the pronoun must be capitalized. Oops.

3. Since cannibalism and incest were off limits by default, a logical person would find the same applies to homosexuality. But not you.

:)
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Baby, it must be all you can do , to be you. Do you see the desperation in your post? Everybody else can. Have you sunken so low, that you'll do or say anything?
I don't believe what you believe. People believe differently. That's why there are different religions in the world.
 
poet said:
Baby, it must be all you can do , to be you. Do you see the desperation in your post? Everybody else can. Have you sunken so low, that you'll do or say anything?
I don't believe what you believe. People believe differently. That's why there are different religions in the world.
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But the religion being discussed is Christianity, which like all of the world's major religions, considers your chosen lifestyle to be an abomination.

Your logical failures have been proven. You can't even address the points made anymore. :)
 
poet said:
And you proved none of yours. And?
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I've not made any accusations, just statements of fact, then provided logical arguments supporting same, proving them all with a preponderance of evidence. You have failed to provide any basis for your accusations, never mind any logical arguments. You've been more then a disappointment here. I've gotten some laughs at your expense though. :)
 
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