Democrat Socialists, rebels without a clue....literally

Truth Detector said:
So when you get caught in a lie, move the goalposts? Yes, Medicare is something we need to scrap and work into something better. But you morons on the left want to cling to that until it too results in insolvency. But hey, that's okay, in liberal loony land money grows on trees! Not to worry!

Medicare defines the term mismanaged. Another argument you lose on.

Medicare will become insolvent in 2026, U.S. government says
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-pol-medicare-finances-20180605-story.html
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Didn't move any goalposts, just asked a simple question. Medicare does require reform, but that doesn't happen because of vested interests and their influence in Washington. And good luck getting rid of it, you going to replace it with everyone on their own or Ryan's inane voucher system?

And I noticed you didn't respond to the study I enclosed examining the health care systems of those nation's you claim have lousy health care
 
Truth Detector said:
Slight correction; now it reads right. :rofl2:
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ma·ni·a·cal (mə-nī′ə-kəl) also ma·ni·ac (mā′nē-ăk′)
adj.
1. Suggestive of or afflicted with extreme mental derangement: a maniacal frenzy.
2. Characterized by excessive enthusiasm or excitement: a maniacal interest in gambling.
3. Wildly irresponsible: maniacal drivers.


I had it right, but I cannot disagree with your description either.
 
Robo said:
According to a Fraser Institute survey, for medically necessary treatment, the median waiting time for patients in Canada from referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist, and then to the date of actual treatment, was 21.2 weeks in 2017.
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While I doubt the accuracy of this, does that average include waiting for medical care in remote regions, where wait times would be longer because there's fewer people overall? That's probably skewing that wait time upward because waiting for a procedure in the remote Yukon province is probably going to be longer than waiting for a procedure in the populated areas near the US border, where 80% of Canadians live.

Your link doesn't go into those details for obvious reasons...
 
Robo said:
Universal Health Care in Canada: A Colossal Government Failure

https://mises.org/wire/universal-health-care-canada-colossal-government-failure

Tom Kent was the senior government policy person in Canada when the Medical Care Act was passed in 1966. He described the government's objectiveThe aim of public policy was quite clearly and simply ... to make sure that people could get care when it was needed without regard to other considerations.


After half a century, the government has still not honoured its commitment, and its performance declines with each passing year, despite increased spending. Furthermore, the government made it illegal for citizens to pay private parties for the health care which the government fails to provide.


Waiting, Waiting, Waiting for a Doctor

According to a Fraser Institute survey, for medically necessary treatment, the median waiting time for patients in Canada from referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist, and then to the date of actual treatment, was 21.2 weeks in 2017.
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Mises is a rat bag

Libertarian crap


they depend on the short bus school of economics

the Austrian school

the one who doesn't like to use math while practicing economics
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School



The Austrian School is a heterodox[1][2][3] school of economic thought that is based on methodological individualism—the concept that social phenomena result from the motivations and actions of individuals.[4][5][6]
The Austrian School originated in late-19th and early-20th century Vienna with the work of Carl Menger, Eugen Böhm von Bawerk, Friedrich von Wieser and others.[7] It was methodologically opposed to the Prussian Historical School (in a dispute known as Methodenstreit). Current-day economists working in this tradition are located in many different countries, but their work is still referred to as Austrian economics. Among the theoretical contributions of the early years of the Austrian School are the subjective theory of value, marginalism in price theory and the formulation of the economic calculation problem, each of which has become an accepted part of mainstream economics.[8]
Since the mid-20th century, mainstream economists have been critical of the modern day Austrian School and consider its rejection of mathematical modelling, econometrics and macroeconomic analysis to be outside mainstream economics, or "heterodox". Although the Austrian School has been considered heterodox since the late 1930s, it attracted renewed interest in the 1970s after Friedrich Hayek shared the 1974 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences[9] and following the 2008 global financial crisis.[10][11]
 
evince said:
the post office

the Cumberland road
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archives said:
Didn't move any goalposts, just asked a simple question. Medicare does require reform, but that doesn't happen because of vested interests and their influence in Washington. And good luck getting rid of it, you going to replace it with everyone on their own or Ryan's inane voucher system?

And I noticed you didn't respond to the study I enclosed examining the health care systems of those nation's you claim have lousy health care
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archives said:
And once again we know the "truthie" is done when he has nothing to add but personal crapola and corny copy and paste videos

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Once again we watch you whine like a buffoon when you cannot make a coherent argument based on the FACT that anything the Government touches is mismanaged and comes at a very high cost.

Yes, you're an idiot; we get it. ;)
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mises_Institute


The Mises Institute,[4] short name for Ludwig von Mises Institute for Austrian Economics, is a tax-exempt educative organization located in Auburn, Alabama, United States.[5] It is named after Austrian School economist Ludwig von Mises (1881–1973). Its website states that it exists to promote "teaching and research in the Austrian school of economics, and individual freedom, honest history, and international peace, in the tradition of Ludwig von Mises and Murray N. Rothbard."[6]
 
LV426 said:
While I doubt the accuracy of this, does that average include waiting for medical care in remote regions, where wait times would be longer because there's fewer people overall? That's probably skewing that wait time upward because waiting for a procedure in the remote Yukon province is probably going to be longer than waiting for a procedure in the populated areas near the US border, where 80% of Canadians live.

Your link doesn't go into those details for obvious reasons...
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In Canada you can wait a year for a hip replacement. It has nothing to do with "remote." It is how Governments manage their costs; by limiting what is available and specialization.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service


The U.S. Mail traces its roots to 1775 during the Second Continental Congress, when Benjamin Franklin was appointed the first postmaster general. The Post Office Department was created in 1792 from Franklin's operation, elevated to a cabinet-level department in 1872, and transformed in 1971 into the U.S. Postal Service as an independent agency.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#Foundations


The official post office was created in 1792 as the Post Office Department (USPOD). It was based on the Constitutional authority empowering Congress "To establish post offices and post roads". The 1792 law provided for a greatly expanded postal network, and served editors by charging newspapers an extremely low rate. The law guaranteed the sanctity of personal correspondence, and provided the entire country with low-cost access to information on public affairs, while establishing a right to personal privacy.[14]
 
Nordberg said:
Want clueless, start with you. Other countries with universal healthcare cover everyone and cost a lot less. Not more...less. Can you understand that universal coverage eliminates the need for the VA, Medicare and Medicaid? Think those are expensive programs?. And of course it would eliminate the need for health insurance which only adds complexity and cost. The savings in those programs would more than pay for universal coverage. Rightys are so meme conscious but absolutely without information. America pays double with our present system and we don't cover everyone. We have bankruptcies caused by illnesses and accidents. You oK with that? Ever think of the human cost , Yeah, Nixon is just like you. she did not do her homework either. Perhaps she is not able to analyze the whole problem. Another thing you and she have in common.
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We aren't other countries. No government program ever costs less here. Even California had to admit the costs for single payer would be staggering.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Road


The National Road (also known as the Cumberland Road)[1] was the first major improved highway in the United States built by the federal government. Built between 1811 and 1837, the 620-mile (1,000 km) road connected the Potomac and Ohio Rivers and was a main transport path to the West for thousands of settlers. When rebuilt in the 1830s, it became the second U.S. road surfaced with the macadam process pioneered by Scotsman John Loudon McAdam.[2]
Construction began heading west in 1811 at Cumberland, Maryland, on the Potomac River.[3] After the Financial Panic of 1837 and the resulting economic depression, congressional funding ran dry and construction was stopped at Vandalia, Illinois, the then capital of the Illinois, 63 miles (101 km)[4] northeast of St. Louis across the Mississippi River.
The road has also been referred to as the Cumberland Turnpike, the Cumberland–Brownsville Turnpike (or Road or Pike), the Cumberland Pike, the National Pike, and the National Turnpike.[citation needed]
Today, much of the alignment is followed by U.S. Route 40, with various portions bearing the Alternate U.S. Route 40 designation, or various state-road numbers (such as Maryland Route 144 for several sections between Baltimore and Cumberland).
In 2002, the full road, including extensions east to Baltimore and west to St. Louis, was designated the Historic National Road, an All-American Road.[5]
 
evince said:
link
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evince said:
see facts kill their shit dead
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You wouldn't know a fact if it walked up and slapped you on your thick empty skull asshat.

Wait times for hip and knee replacements grow in Canada

Across the country, 76 per cent of patients received a hip replacement in 2017 within the recommended six-month wait time, down from 81 per cent in 2015.

For knee replacements, 69 per cent of patients had the procedure within the benchmark in 2017, compared to 82 per cent in 2015.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/hip-knee-replacement-wait-times-1.4615531

Longer wait times were also reported for cataract surgery. 71% of Canadians received cataract surgery within the recommended wait time of 16 weeks in 2017 — a decrease of 5% since 2015. The proportion of patients having cataract surgery within the benchmark declined in 7 provinces during this period. The number of procedures increased 3% over the 3-year period.
https://www.cihi.ca/en/wait-times-longer-for-joint-replacements-and-cataract-surgeries-in-canada
 
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