democrats don't understand what fascism is

T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, the hole is still there,and the same size, not to mention they found a second bigger one now...

Whatever Happened to the Hole in the Ozone Layer?
https://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/whatever-happened-to-the-hole-in-the-ozone-layer

2021 Antarctic Ozone Hole 13th-Largest, Will Persist into November
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddar...-hole-13th-largest-will-persist-into-november

Scientists found a massive new hole in the ozone layer that could affect 50% of the population
https://bgr.com/science/scientists-...layer-that-could-affect-50-of-the-population/

Scientists Find Ozone Hole in Tropics Much Bigger Than in Antarctica
https://www.newsweek.com/scientists-find-ozone-hole-tropics-much-bigger-antarctica-1721940

You need to keep up on the science of these things. Seems CFC's weren't the cause after all...
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From your fourth link:

It was found that the hole was present year-round and has been there since the 1980s,
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And remember what your first link said?

CFCs were widely used in previous decades, peaking in the late 1980s. Many refrigerators, air conditioners and foam-blowing equipment used to emit dangerous levels of chlorine gas into the atmosphere. Once chlorine reaches the ozone layer, ultraviolet radiation from the sun converts it into a reactive substance, which then destroys ozone molecules. Other compounds, such as bromine, have also played a role in depleting the ozone layer.
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Be honest...if I go through your links about these other holes, am I going to find that they all really started in the 1980's?
 
LV426 said:
OK, so according to your first link, it says CFC's were the cause:



I really, really fucking hate it when I have to do your homework for you, and I get nothing in return for doing so.

And the efforts of banning aerosols did work to close the hole over Antarctica, again, according to your first link.
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Yea, yea... The "scientists" told us the hole would disappear decades ago if we got rid of CFC's. They moved the goal posts. The same bunch of idiots are now dictating what we need to do for their version of climate change.

The way I see it is, Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not listening to the vast majority of their tripe today because they've been wrong too consistently, too many times. Your cherry picking my sources, while not presenting a scintilla of data of your own, is worthless as a rebuttal.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, yea... The "scientists" told us the hole would disappear decades ago if we got rid of CFC's. They moved the goal posts. The same bunch of idiots are now dictating what we need to do for their version of climate change.
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First of all, the entire point of science is to constantly revise conclusions as more data comes in.

So screaming about how scientists have corrected themselves over and over is pointless, because that is the scientific process.

But your link says that banning those CFC's stopped the growth of the hole. The others you mentioned, at least the three links I clicked on in your post, all talk of those holes also opening during the 1980's, and then your first link makes the connection between the holes and peak CFC usage in the 1980's.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The way I see it is, Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not listening to the vast majority of their tripe today because they've been wrong too consistently, too many times. Your cherry picking my sources, while not presenting a scintilla of data of your own, is worthless as a rebuttal.
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You're not going to listen to them because they revise their conclusions as more data came in? Isn't that the entire point of science?

Would you prefer it if they stuck by their previous conclusions, even if new data proves those previous conclusions wrong? Be careful how you answer that one.
 
LV426 said:
First of all, the entire point of science is to constantly revise conclusions as more data comes in.

So screaming about how scientists have corrected themselves over and over is pointless, because that is the scientific process.

But your link says that banning those CFC's stopped the growth of the hole. The others you mentioned, at least the three links I clicked on in your post, all talk of those holes also opening during the 1980's, and then your first link makes the connection between the holes and peak CFC usage in the 1980's.
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If scientists rarely, or never, get something right it's time to get better, new, scientists.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
If scientists rarely, or never, get something right it's time to get better, new, scientists.
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What are you fucking talking about? The entire point of science is to disprove hypotheses.

Just because you can't wrap your head around science doesn't mean other people share your deficiency.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
What is it that makes Fascism "right wing?"

Because it's collectivist?

Because the state controls the means of production?

Because individualism is suppressed in favor of the group - the Reich?

Because the State is deemed supreme and never to be questioned?
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gosh, that doesn't sound like right wing to me....
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Wikipedia is extremely biased and utterly unreliable.

When I went to Cal Poly, WikiPedia hadn't been invented, in fact Algore the Magnificent hadn't invented the internet yet. In Graduate school, all sources were required to be peer reviewed - hence Wikis of any sort were irrelevant.

What is it that makes Fascism "right wing?"

Because it's collectivist?

Because the state controls the means of production?

Because individualism is suppressed in favor of the group - the Reich?

Because the State is deemed supreme and never to be questioned?
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because innately corporatist. and libertarians, being most corporatist, can never call it out.

they seem to somehow think corporations don't operate dictatorially, and that they're unconditional forces for good.
 
LV426 said:
I don't understand what your endgame is here? You don't want any environmental regulations because you want more of this:

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You're not making any sense.
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we don't want whole nations destroyed based on climate hysteria.

and thats what it is, hysteria.
 
AssHatZombie said:
no they haven't.
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The Syrian Civil War was caused by a mass influx of rural Syrians into the cities because of the drought (which was caused by climate change); those Syrians demanded better living and working conditions, and the Assad regime said no.

What Bangladesh Can Teach the World About Talking About Climate Change
https://time.com/6224791/bangladesh-teach-the-world-about-talking-about-climate-change/

For an anti-globalist, you sure act like a globalist.
 
green policy idiocy is destroying bangladesh

The Push for a Green New Deal in Bangladesh - The Diplomat
https://thediplomat.com › 2021 › 08 › the-push-for-a-green-new-deal-in-bangladesh
In June 2021, Hamid announced the decision to drop plans for 10 coal-fired power plants and indicated an embrace of renewable energy development as part of Bangladesh's commitment to the Climate...
How Bangladesh is navigating a just transition to clean energy | World ...
https://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2022 › 01 › bangladesh-climate-friendly-transition
A number of policy initiatives suggest Bangladesh is committed to ramping up green energy. Earlier this year, for example, it cancelled plans to build 10 new coal-power plants. But according to the government website, it is still working to add eight others, most of which are under construction.
Climate Change Through the Lens of Bangladesh
https://thediplomat.com › 2021 › 11 › climate-change-through-the-lens-of-bangladesh
Bangladesh is especially affected by negative effects of climate change and can function as role model to the developed and developing world. As Bangladesh is located at the end of the drainage ...
For Higher Growth, Bangladesh Must Curb Environment Degradation and ...
https://www.worldbank.org › en › news › press-release › 2018 › 09 › 16 › for-higher-growth-bangladesh-must-curb-environment-degradation-and-pollution
Across Bangladesh, 28 percent of all deaths are from diseases caused by pollution, compared to a 16 percent global average. "Bangladesh pays a high price from environment degradation and pollution in its urban areas. This puts its strong growth at risk," said Rajashree Paralkar, World Bank Acting Country Director for Bangladesh.
Reflecting on Bangladesh's 'green revolution' - Institute of ...
https://www.ids.ac.uk › opinions › reflecting-on-bangladeshs-green-revolution
The green revolution has been built into the country's DNA, as part of a nation building narrative. Once labelled an 'international basket case' by one of Henry Kissinger's aides in the 1970s, it was argued that Bangladesh that would always be dependent on Western food aid. However, the country had achieved self-sufficiency in rice ...
The changing climate | UNICEF
https://www.unicef.org › bangladesh › en › changing-climate
The Bangladesh government has identified as major hazards floods, cyclones, droughts, tidal surges, tornadoes, earthquakes, river erosion, water logging, rising water and soil salinity. Floods often lead to, or are a result of, river erosion. These results in the loss of lives, land, property and the displacement of people.
Clean and Green Bangladesh: A goal that can be achieved - World Bank Blogs
https://blogs.worldbank.org › endpovertyinsouthasia › clean-and-green-bangladesh-goal-can-be-achieved
In Bangladesh, the World Bank continues to be committed to ensure that our financing brings climate change co-benefits and we are supporting numerous projects focused on inclusive green growth, to promote a cleaner environment and reduce green-house-gas emissions.
Green Finance in Bangladesh: Policies, Institutions, and Challenges
https://www.adb.org › publications › green-finance-bangladesh-policies-institutions-challenges
Publication | November 2018. Building the capacity of banks and financial institutions, developing bond and equity markets, and establishing a well-coordinated policy oversight body are key to promoting green finance in Bangladesh. Despite having great potential for renewable energy (RE) sources, RE comprises a meager 1% share of Bangladesh's ...
Government Initiatives for Green Development in Bangladesh
https://www.preprints.org › manuscript › 202008.0298 › v1 › download
of the state should provide favorable incentives, policy and regulatory pressure for green development. The present study aims to investigate the government policies and regulations for green development in Bangladesh and make a critical discussion of the initiatives. The study is descriptive in nature and collects secondary information.
How the loss of mangrove forests increase Bangladesh's ... - FairPlanet
https://www.fairplanet.org › dossier › climate-change › how-the-loss-of-mangrove-forests-increase-bangladeshs-vulnerability-to-climate-change
These stressors on the forest are exacerbated by the negative impacts of climate change such as extreme weather events and sea level rise putting both peoples' lives and properties in the delta as well as the integrity of the ecosystem at risk. While no one lives within the Sundarbans mangrove forest in Bangladesh, the growing population ...
 
AssHatZombie said:
green policy idiocy is destroying bangladesh

The Push for a Green New Deal in Bangladesh - The Diplomat
https://thediplomat.com › 2021 › 08 › the-push-for-a-green-new-deal-in-bangladesh
In June 2021, Hamid announced the decision to drop plans for 10 coal-fired power plants and indicated an embrace of renewable energy development as part of Bangladesh's commitment to the Climate...
How Bangladesh is navigating a just transition to clean energy | World ...
https://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2022 › 01 › bangladesh-climate-friendly-transition
A number of policy initiatives suggest Bangladesh is committed to ramping up green energy. Earlier this year, for example, it cancelled plans to build 10 new coal-power plants. But according to the government website, it is still working to add eight others, most of which are under construction.
Climate Change Through the Lens of Bangladesh
https://thediplomat.com › 2021 › 11 › climate-change-through-the-lens-of-bangladesh
Bangladesh is especially affected by negative effects of climate change and can function as role model to the developed and developing world. As Bangladesh is located at the end of the drainage ...
For Higher Growth, Bangladesh Must Curb Environment Degradation and ...
https://www.worldbank.org › en › news › press-release › 2018 › 09 › 16 › for-higher-growth-bangladesh-must-curb-environment-degradation-and-pollution
Across Bangladesh, 28 percent of all deaths are from diseases caused by pollution, compared to a 16 percent global average. "Bangladesh pays a high price from environment degradation and pollution in its urban areas. This puts its strong growth at risk," said Rajashree Paralkar, World Bank Acting Country Director for Bangladesh.
Reflecting on Bangladesh's 'green revolution' - Institute of ...
https://www.ids.ac.uk › opinions › reflecting-on-bangladeshs-green-revolution
The green revolution has been built into the country's DNA, as part of a nation building narrative. Once labelled an 'international basket case' by one of Henry Kissinger's aides in the 1970s, it was argued that Bangladesh that would always be dependent on Western food aid. However, the country had achieved self-sufficiency in rice ...
The changing climate | UNICEF
https://www.unicef.org › bangladesh › en › changing-climate
The Bangladesh government has identified as major hazards floods, cyclones, droughts, tidal surges, tornadoes, earthquakes, river erosion, water logging, rising water and soil salinity. Floods often lead to, or are a result of, river erosion. These results in the loss of lives, land, property and the displacement of people.
Clean and Green Bangladesh: A goal that can be achieved - World Bank Blogs
https://blogs.worldbank.org › endpovertyinsouthasia › clean-and-green-bangladesh-goal-can-be-achieved
In Bangladesh, the World Bank continues to be committed to ensure that our financing brings climate change co-benefits and we are supporting numerous projects focused on inclusive green growth, to promote a cleaner environment and reduce green-house-gas emissions.
Green Finance in Bangladesh: Policies, Institutions, and Challenges
https://www.adb.org › publications › green-finance-bangladesh-policies-institutions-challenges
Publication | November 2018. Building the capacity of banks and financial institutions, developing bond and equity markets, and establishing a well-coordinated policy oversight body are key to promoting green finance in Bangladesh. Despite having great potential for renewable energy (RE) sources, RE comprises a meager 1% share of Bangladesh's ...
Government Initiatives for Green Development in Bangladesh
https://www.preprints.org › manuscript › 202008.0298 › v1 › download
of the state should provide favorable incentives, policy and regulatory pressure for green development. The present study aims to investigate the government policies and regulations for green development in Bangladesh and make a critical discussion of the initiatives. The study is descriptive in nature and collects secondary information.
How the loss of mangrove forests increase Bangladesh's ... - FairPlanet
https://www.fairplanet.org › dossier › climate-change › how-the-loss-of-mangrove-forests-increase-bangladeshs-vulnerability-to-climate-change
These stressors on the forest are exacerbated by the negative impacts of climate change such as extreme weather events and sea level rise putting both peoples' lives and properties in the delta as well as the integrity of the ecosystem at risk. While no one lives within the Sundarbans mangrove forest in Bangladesh, the growing population ...
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Nothing there supports your argument; every single link of yours supports mine.

This is what happens when you do sloppy work.
 
Instead, JICA should support the people of Bangladesh by cutting off all coal finance and funding renewable energy development. Climate justice activists agree these promises should be accompanied by significant financial assistance.

“These plans require funding from international, regional, public and private sources to achieve the target,” said Rahman of YouthNet. “Polluter countries built on fossil fuels must provide reparations to Bangladesh for its planned renewable energy development and climate mitigation,” he continued.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/08/the-push-for-a-green-new-deal-in-bangladesh/
 
LV426 said:
The Syrian Civil War was caused by a mass influx of rural Syrians into the cities because of the drought (which was caused by climate change); those Syrians demanded better living and working conditions, and the Assad regime said no.

What Bangladesh Can Teach the World About Talking About Climate Change
https://time.com/6224791/bangladesh-teach-the-world-about-talking-about-climate-change/

For an anti-globalist, you sure act like a globalist.
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droughts happen sometimes.

it doesn't mean you get to starve those very same victims of energy to achieve your murder agenda.
 
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