ExpressLane
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Typical libratard he tries to stifle free speech.
democrats don't understand what fascism is
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I'm not what you're looking for, but I'll bite.
Fascism is a sect of socialism. Fascism is collectivist by definition. Fascism, as defined by Benito Mussolini, holds that the state controls the means of production, as socialism always does.
Fascism is ultimately the supremacy of the state, the concept that ALL power ultimately is the rightful domain of the central, in our case federal, government.
Mussolini was one of Vladimir Lenin's top lieutenants and deeply dedicated to the cause of socialism. But of course he was a megalomaniac and not going to play second fiddle to anyone, Il Deuce was the boss.
Mussolini set out to fix some of the deep flaws of the Bolsheviks. First was the issue of human nature. The Bolsheviks addressed this by corruption, Lenin and later Stalin made corruption a central feature of Communism, because nothing gets accomplished without the promise of reward. Graft is a poor way of managing, as Joe Biden makes clear.
Italy is the birth place of the modern market, Venice the heart of the Renaissance. Also the place of the rise of the Guilds. The Marxists in academia like to lie and claim that Fascism is "corporatist" - whatever the fuck that means. But in reality Mussolini followed the guild structure.
Surprisingly, Wikipedia does a good job of explaining how these guilds under Il Deuce were nothing like a modern corporation.
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A fascist corporation is a government body that brings together federations of workers and employers syndicates belonging to the same profession and branch, to regulate production in a holistic manner. Each trade union would theoretically represent its professional concerns, especially by negotiation of labour contracts and the like. It was theorized that this method could result in harmony amongst social classes.[35]
In Italy from 1922 until 1943, corporatism became influential amongst Italian nationalists led by Benito Mussolini. The Charter of Carnaro gained much popularity as the prototype of a "corporative state", having displayed much within its tenets as a guild system combining the concepts of autonomy and authority in a special synthesis.[36] Alfredo Rocco spoke of a corporative state and declared corporatist ideology in detail. Rocco would later become a member of the Italian fascist regime.[37]
Italian Fascism involved a corporatist political system in which the economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level.[38] Its supporters claimed that corporatism could better recognize or "incorporate" every divergent interest into the state organically, unlike majority-rules democracy which they said could marginalize specific interests. This total consideration was the inspiration for their use of the term "totalitarian", described without coercion (which is connoted in the modern meaning) in the 1932 Doctrine of Fascism as thus:
When brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State.[39]
[The state] is not simply a mechanism which limits the sphere of the supposed liberties of the individual... Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State... Far from crushing the individual, the Fascist State multiplies his energies, just as in a regiment a soldier is not diminished but multiplied by the number of his fellow soldiers.[39]}
Corporatism - Wikipedia
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Ultimately the central doctrine of Fascism is supremacy of the state. This is also the central doctrine of the democrat party - that the state is supreme and individuals are irrelevant.
But democrats are not merely fascist, they are Nazis - they have embraced the scapegoat, the racist attack on a group as foundation for their power as they establish the fascist state.
SmarterthanYou
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and you might have a point, except for the fact that I am smarter than you. and yes, the term fascism is misused by 90% of this board, just like 'racist' is.
SmarterthanYou
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as an example, a nations chief executive strongly encouraging corporations to require vaccines to remain employed???????
BidenPresident
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Why don't you explain what fascism is? Educate us.
Son, you didn't finish third grade. You know nothing about anything.
Let the grown ups talk now.
moon
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The two could not be further apart. Socialism is love. Fascism is hatred.
Lao Tse
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BidenPresident
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fuck you troll
Typical exchange with a democrat:
democrat: Fascism is right wing
American: What makes it right wing?
d: Because it's fascist
A: Okay, but what makes fascism right wing?
d: because it's capitalist
A: Weren’t Mussolini and Hitler collectivists with the state controlling the means of production?
d: They were corporatists
A: So they sold stock in an exchange?
d: well, there were private owners
A: So there was no exchange or stock involved like a corporation would use?
d: greedy Capitalists pigs
A: but there was no stock for the public to buy and ownership was set by the party that ruled the government?
d: see - capitalists
A: Government controlling the means of production is capitalism?
d: Racist
A: isn't racism a collectivist concept? The denial of individualism in favor of group identity?
d: Racism is right wing
A: From the trail of tears, slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, to BLM, haven't the democrats been behind virtually all racism in America?
d: Democrats were Republicans back then
A: That's just stupid. Back to fascism.
d: Fascism is right wing
A: Fascism holds that the state - the government, is supreme. Isn't that what democrats claim?
d: Republicans are fascists
A: Don't Republicans advocate for individual civil rights?
d: We need courts to make laws at the federal level to ensure rights for women by imposing law from the top
A: shouldn't people decide for themselves on a state by state basis?
d: You're destroying democracy
Your brand of it is.
You must have forgotten that I already tore this stupid thing apart on another thread, and you ran away from it all like a little fucking bitchass.
You got so upset that you had multiple outbursts on the thread, before you finally gave up and conceded the points.
Little bitchass.
ExpressLane
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SmarterthanYou
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socialism is not love. It's portrayed as love, but it's not. Socialism is the equal sharing of misery and poverty, except for the elected 'leaders' who impose it. they get all that concentrated wealth.
SmarterthanYou
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you would have to be a certifiable idiot to believe that wanting more freedom for everyone is being a fascist libertarian.
Yes, because all those people in Canada and Japan are so miserable...?
SmarterthanYou
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more delusions, karen? you keep saying you tear everything apart, yet you've NEVER been able to do it.
Freedom at the expense of majority rule.
You want a system where you get to call the shots, even though you've done NOTHING to earn that privilege.
I tear you apart here almost every day and you know how I know it worked? Because you get increasingly shrill and defensive.
SmarterthanYou
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you're obviously confused and are talking about liberalism, where they want majority to call all the shots.