Democrats still do not know why they lost.
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Alexandros Marinos
There is a fundamental paradigm shift that the democrats have not yet adjusted to. How fast they adjust will determine if they survive and how long it will take them to come to power again. Early protestants rebelled against a top-down, corrupt authority that had lost its legitimacy with the people. That's not to say that the protestants were saints, but that the "sola scriptura" paradigm of encouraging people to read the bible themselves and make their own conclusions instead of trusting the priests is a direct analog of "do your own research" today. The Trump 2.0 coalition is composed of people who can make their own conclusions and defend their own opinions on the merits, not because some expert said so. Elon, RFKjr, JD Vance, Tulsi will not always agree, and that's a good thing, because without uniformity of opinion, you don't get censorship.the Democrats on the other hand have atrophied their ability to even evaluate reality independently. The people who were independent minded have moved to the MAGA side, and those who operate by elite consensus (*cough* neocons *cough*) have left the Republican party and joined the Democrats this cycle.The problem is that elite opinion has beclowned itself over and over and over throughout the last few years. It has little to no pull on the public anymore, and for good reason. Russiagate, Afghan withdrawal, COVID, "too big to fail", lawfare, and the censorship enacted to keep the other lies viable, have all demonstrated just how broken the paradigm of depending on elite-minded, carreer experts who benefit from telling elites what they want to hear. That paradigm is dead and we're not going back.So for the Democratic party to become competitive again, it will have to find a way to embrace the voices that can compose and defend a worldview on first principes, not edicts. And unfortunately for them, they've been busy purging exactly those people for the last decade or longer.Following the protestant reformation analogy, the Democrats will need their own counter-reformation if they want to survive. Acknowledge the most eggregious errors, fix obvious procedural issues, change the tone and attitude of their engagement with the people, and purge the most obvious shills.I see many people trying to latch on to one issue or another. "It's the trans thing!", "It's the economy!", "It's the censorship!", "It's the anti-semitism/It's the genocide!", "It's kamala!", "It's Ukraine!", "It's Rogan!" they say. And the truth is, it's all of these and yet none of them specifically. All or most of these are symptoms of the loss of conviction in one's own opinions and will to lead from the front. The refusal to even put together a quasi-coherent world-model that isn't obviously batshit insane. My prediction is that the Democrats are in for a long period in the wilderness. Much like Clinton pulled them out of a 12-year stint in opposition, they need to find someone to undo the milquetoast "third way" technocratic nothingness that Clinton turned the Democrat ideology into. And it may well take them 8 or 12 years to find that kind of leadership.
Bret Weinstein
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The Republic needs a second (new) party. Personally I do not think it should be the Democrats. The rot is too deep. To overcome it, the Dems would need someone to overthrow the party power structure the way Trump overran the GOP with MAGA.
Litmus
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yes.
Alexandros Marinos
There is a fundamental paradigm shift that the democrats have not yet adjusted to. How fast they adjust will determine if they survive and how long it will take them to come to power again. Early protestants rebelled against a top-down, corrupt authority that had lost its legitimacy with the people. That's not to say that the protestants were saints, but that the "sola scriptura" paradigm of encouraging people to read the bible themselves and make their own conclusions instead of trusting the priests is a direct analog of "do your own research" today. The Trump 2.0 coalition is composed of people who can make their own conclusions and defend their own opinions on the merits, not because some expert said so. Elon, RFKjr, JD Vance, Tulsi will not always agree, and that's a good thing, because without uniformity of opinion, you don't get censorship.the Democrats on the other hand have atrophied their ability to even evaluate reality independently. The people who were independent minded have moved to the MAGA side, and those who operate by elite consensus (*cough* neocons *cough*) have left the Republican party and joined the Democrats this cycle.The problem is that elite opinion has beclowned itself over and over and over throughout the last few years. It has little to no pull on the public anymore, and for good reason. Russiagate, Afghan withdrawal, COVID, "too big to fail", lawfare, and the censorship enacted to keep the other lies viable, have all demonstrated just how broken the paradigm of depending on elite-minded, carreer experts who benefit from telling elites what they want to hear. That paradigm is dead and we're not going back.So for the Democratic party to become competitive again, it will have to find a way to embrace the voices that can compose and defend a worldview on first principes, not edicts. And unfortunately for them, they've been busy purging exactly those people for the last decade or longer.Following the protestant reformation analogy, the Democrats will need their own counter-reformation if they want to survive. Acknowledge the most eggregious errors, fix obvious procedural issues, change the tone and attitude of their engagement with the people, and purge the most obvious shills.I see many people trying to latch on to one issue or another. "It's the trans thing!", "It's the economy!", "It's the censorship!", "It's the anti-semitism/It's the genocide!", "It's kamala!", "It's Ukraine!", "It's Rogan!" they say. And the truth is, it's all of these and yet none of them specifically. All or most of these are symptoms of the loss of conviction in one's own opinions and will to lead from the front. The refusal to even put together a quasi-coherent world-model that isn't obviously batshit insane. My prediction is that the Democrats are in for a long period in the wilderness. Much like Clinton pulled them out of a 12-year stint in opposition, they need to find someone to undo the milquetoast "third way" technocratic nothingness that Clinton turned the Democrat ideology into. And it may well take them 8 or 12 years to find that kind of leadership.
the globalist warhawk neocon Zionist banker cocksnackers do need to fuck off also.
that's what I was thinking.
The Democratic Party was serious about public funds to cut the healthy genitals off Pre-Teen Kids against the knowledge and permission of their parents at the demands of a bunch of radical sexual orientation activists.
And then there is the foreign luxury lifestyle moochers Invasion.
Let's add on paying Millions of Dollars per person, in Slavery Reparations to people based solely on their skin color, who were not the descendants of slaves, to be paid for by people who were not the descendants of slave owners. Birth-Guilt Enormous Fines for having a similar appearance to someone who did something bad over a hundred years before you were born!
These three alone, are Bat-Shit Crazy enough to end the Democratic Party. And the list goes on and on and on and on and on...
The Democratic Party has become the Mentally Ill Radicals Party.
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Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Clearly, the authors of your articles are describing the democrats as the awful fascists.
And why blame Clinton and give Obama and Biden a pass.
Yakuda
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First you're all pussys. Second it's clear from this thread that you haven't got first clue why you lost. You're an idiot
The far left Democratic Socialist loons have lost the working class...and just about everyone else.
Their brand is toxic.
Libhater
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For the sake of America, I sure to hope and think that we're witnessing the end of the dummycrat party as we know it.
Perhaps they can choose another name for their new future party, such as the Fascist Party. And isn't quite ironic how the
leftists have been calling we on the political right as fascists. You just can't make this shit up.
Perhaps they can choose another name for their new future party, such as the Fascist Party. And isn't quite ironic how the
leftists have been calling we on the political right as fascists. You just can't make this shit up.
Retards with retarded grammar.
BartenderElite
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Not sure if this is really the thread to learn about it.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Have you learned about it elsewhere?
Libhater
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Other than getting slammed at the voting booths, and losing the vote, do YOU know what the real reason(s)
were why your party lost?
BartenderElite
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Yep.
BartenderElite
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It's not my party. And yes, I have a good idea of why Dems lost.
Libhater
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Oh look, another democrat/leftist who can't admit he, she or tranny is a democrat. After this failed
4 years of the most incompetent and dangerous administration ever, I almost can admire you for
not owning up to supporting your dem party. But I'm not there yet.
BartenderElite
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Only partisan, party-first hacks are confused by the idea that not everyone is a partisan, party-first hack.