Democrats still do not know why they lost.

[Daylight63]

I am fascinated by people like you who refuse to accept that she lost.

I fully accept she lost. I accept it 100%. It is was in no small way due to the inaction of some who wish to now make complaints about what we are in for now.

She wasn't a perfect candidate but those who chose to "sit it out" because they didn't like Kamala effectively helped hand it all to Trump. As such those people are effectively responsible for what happens next. Good or bad. I hope it's good. But those folks who thought they were taking a principled stand are going to have to live with the unintended consequences of that stand.

 

[Land Barge]

I think even YOU can puzzle it out. But I'm not interested in helping you understand. It wasn't aimed at you and I honestly don't care what you think about the topic.

Sorry you wasted your time.

So you don’t have a clue.

 

[Hume]

I fully accept she lost. I accept it 100%. It is was in no small way due to the inaction of some who wish to now make complaints about what we are in for now.

She wasn't a perfect candidate but those who chose to "sit it out" because they didn't like Kamala effectively helped hand it all to Trump. As such those people are effectively responsible for what happens next. Good or bad. I hope it's good. But those folks who thought they were taking a principled stand are going to have to live with the unintended consequences of that stand.

boring

 

[AProudLefty]

So you don’t have a clue.

Who are you?

 

[Land Barge]

Who are you?

I’m am and will always be… Land Barge.

 

[Daylight63]

boring

Not going to be boring for long. Soon Trump and his MAGA movement will start doing things none of us want. Those of us who stood on a principle, while admirable for having principles, will be as responsible for MAGA's actions as those who voted for MAGA.

As the saying goes:

The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing​

 

[gfm7175]

The Dems lost because MORE Americans wanted simple fixes for complex problems and valued hatred more than an inclusive society.

This is completely meaningless. You're not actually saying anything.

And it's funny coming from people who absolutely HAAAAAAAAAAAATE Trump, and anyone who supports him, and anyone who didn't wish to get mRNA jabbed.

And the Left pushed a bit too hard on the recalcitrant low-information folks and it backfired.

This doesn't sound very "inclusive" to me...... This is also part of the reason why Democrats lost, but you haven't realized it yet.

We asked them to "accept" when they weren't ready. So now we are building the camps.

????????

Sure the Dems were a bit goofy at times with all the weird extremes of Woke but the alternative is NOT normally full-scale fascism. There's space in between we just passed it over.

"A bit goofy at times" ...............

 

[gfm7175]

Hatred ??? We didn't try to kill Kamala TWICE.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gfm7175]

No, I'm right. You just don't like what I said.

You continue to be a prime example of the type of person being referenced in the thread title.

 

[Daylight63]

This is completely meaningless. You're not actually saying anything.

QED.

And it's funny coming from people who absolutely HAAAAAAAAAAAATE Trump, and anyone who supports him, and anyone who didn't wish to get mRNA jabbed.

So you're still pissed that you don't understand how pandemics and virology work?

This doesn't sound very "inclusive" to me

No one has to be inclusive for those who hate. Sorry, it just isn't required.

"A bit goofy at times" ...............

And you can't even admit your guy is a bit Nazi at times.

 

[BartenderElite]

^^^^^See folks the Dems STILL don't get it. If they don't wake up they will be doomed to continue blowing it. Hatred ??? We didn't try to kill Kamala TWICE.

The last part still makes no sense to me.

Can anyone explain?

 

[gfm7175]

What does that last part even mean?

You're unaware of the assassination attempts against Trump?

LMAO. Everyone will be finger pointing now solely to get clicks on their websites. The truth is, there are more truly ignorant people in this nation than anyone imagined. They were inspired to vote against their own best interests by arguably one of the dumbest men in the nation.

That, and the sad truth. This nation might never allow a woman to be POTUS. Especially when Latinos/Latinas have an every growing voter base. They simply will not allow it. I'm not sure why?

This makes you a prime example of the person being referenced in the thread title.

This too.

 

[BartenderElite]

You're unaware of the assassination attempts against Trump?

This makes you a prime example of the person being referenced in the thread title.

This too.

I know about the attempts - they were by individuals.

Do you believe an entire side of the political aisle was involved or something? Or even a larger group? I don't understand the implication of "we" in what ExpressLane wrote.

 

[gfm7175]

I am utterly fascinated at how much some people must dislike Harris to think that letting Trump take the Oval was a rational alternative.

Have you ever considered the fact that A LOT of people actually LIKE Trump..... and not just like him, but LOVE him, even considering him to be the best President during their lifetimes?

 

[gfm7175]

QED.

So you're still pissed that you don't understand how pandemics and virology work?

So you're still blaming me for YOUR OWN issues?

No one has to be inclusive for those who hate. Sorry, it just isn't required.

For some reason, I'm getting the feeling that when you say "those who hate", what you really mean is 'those who hold viewpoints that differ from my own'.

YOU'RE the one who is filled with hate, dude, and you don't even realize it. THAT'S one reason why Democrats lost, btw.....

And you can't even admit your guy is a bit Nazi at times.

What does "a bit Nazi" even mean? I might just have to update my "Lispy Leftist List of Linguistic Lunacy" for the first time in a looooooong time... this doozy is just too good to pass up!

 

[Daylight63]

Have you ever considered the fact that A LOT of people actually LIKE Trump..... and not just like him, but LOVE him, even considering him to be the best President during their lifetimes?

Oh I have ZERO doubt of that. A lot of people like really unpleasant things.

People like SIMPLE SOLUTIONS to complex problems. Trump offered that. Seriously, his plans were never outlined or explained in any real detail. It was just "TARIFFS" and "DEPORTATION". That literally was ALL HE PRESENTED. He never got into the details because there ARE NO DETAILS.

C'mon man, even you guys who SUPPORT him have to admit that for years he promised a wonderful new healthcare system and NEVER EVEN PUT PEN TO PAPER ON IT. In the 2024 debate he still only had a concept of an idea!!!

The man is a demagogue. He talks in sweeping generalities but does it FORCEFULLY. He's playing the STRONG MAN. And a LOT of people like you want a STRONG MAN leader. It's almost like you want a "daddy figure".

But this daddy isn't really interested in YOU or anything YOU care about. Surely you don't REALLY believe Trump would give one flying fuck about you or whatever happens to you. SURELY you are jaded enough as an adult to realize that.

Yeah, I get it. You like Trump. A lot of people do.

But they never seem to be able to formulate a solid reason based on rational facts to support it. They just like the fact that he's going to "fix it all".

 

[Daylight63]

So you claim that the MAGA movement doesn't value HATE, and I show you an easily findable example of it and you just laugh.

So you're still blaming me for YOUR OWN issues?

Hey, knock yourself out. Refuse to get any vaccines. Just don't whine on social media when you are in the hospital with some horrible disease. And for fuck's sake don't whine when you infect your older relatives with something that will kill them.

Just be a man about your choices. Live and DIE by them for all I care. Just don't try to blame someone else like you MAGAts always do.

For some reason, I'm getting the feeling that when you say "those who hate", what you really mean is 'those who hold viewpoints that differ from my own'.

No, I mean the folks on your side who do this:

YOU'RE the one who is filled with hate, dude, and you don't even realize it. THAT'S one reason why Democrats lost, btw.....

Vide supra, motherfucker.

What does "a bit Nazi" even mean?

He admires Hitler and uses Hitler type phrases like "poisoning the blood".

I might just have to update my "Lispy Leftist List of Linguistic Lunacy" for the first time in a looooooong time... this doozy is just too good to pass up!

Well, may I suggest: fuck your feelings.

 

[Daylight63]

You continue to be a prime example of the type of person being referenced in the thread title.

LOL. I know why we on the Left lost. There are more people like you than there are like me in America.

Pure and simple.

I've got education and try to care about other people. That's my weakness. But that education has actually helped me economically which means when Trump actually DOES do what he promised I'll make out better than you will.

At that point you will whine and whine and whine and after you've deported all the "Bad people" you will have to find SOMEONE ELSE to blame for your failures.

 

[gfm7175]

Oh I have ZERO doubt of that. A lot of people like really unpleasant things.

People like SIMPLE SOLUTIONS to complex problems. Trump offered that. Seriously, his plans were never outlined or explained in any real detail. It was just "TARIFFS" and "DEPORTATION". That literally was ALL HE PRESENTED. He never got into the details because there ARE NO DETAILS.

Obviously you aren't paying attention, and have forgotten that Trump already has a 4 year track record of results. His tariff threats have already gotten Mexico and Canada to stop the unfettered flow of illegal aliens into our nation, so that's already a WIN and he isn't even in office yet. His energy/economic policies will have gas prices down in probably 6 months.

C'mon man,

Joe Biden's handlers? Is this you?

But this daddy isn't really interested in YOU or anything YOU care about. Surely you don't REALLY believe Trump would give one flying fuck about you or whatever happens to you. SURELY you are jaded enough as an adult to realize that.

Yup... that's why he went through all of the lawfare and even took a bullet and quickly rose up again, with his fist in the air, shouting "fight fight fight!"... because he doesn't care about this country or its people. TOTALLY.............

Yeah, I get it. You like Trump. A lot of people do.

But they never seem to be able to formulate a solid reason based on rational facts to support it. They just like the fact that he's going to "fix it all".

 

[Daylight63]

Obviously you aren't paying attention, and have forgotten that Trump already has a 4 year track record of results.

Yes, a net loss of manufacturing jobs and 1 million dead Americans in no small part due his mishandling of the single biggest issue he had to face.

His tariff threats have already gotten Mexico and Canada to stop the unfettered flow of illegal aliens into our nation

If you say so.

, so that's already a WIN and he isn't even in office yet.

LOL. Sure, yeah.

His energy/economic policies will have gas prices down in probably 6 months.

LOL. So now you want him to control prices? That's very Marxist of you.

Yup... that's why he went through all of the lawfare and even took a bullet and quickly rose up again, with his fist in the air, shouting "fight fight fight!"... because he doesn't care about this country or its people. TOTALLY.............

You people will worship anything if it promises you enough presents, won't you?