Dennis Kucinich is on board!

You have some evidence of that allegation?
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From no to yes in one plane ride. Yeah, it's subjective evidence, but it is evidence enough for most that aren't blindly partisan to make a judgment.

And yes, previously I have said much the same about republicans who have made much the same decisions after "talking" with the President.
 
I think he bares a striking resemblance to Henry Gibson...



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Don't you agree? :readit:

Henry Gibsom cracks me up, but Kucinich has always reminded me of perennial Presidential candidate Pat Paulsen:

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Except I would have voted for Paulsen.
 
The conservatives say they are for reform... but what did they do when they were very reciently in power? NUTHING!
This was before the support within their own party was this strong for reform. It's disingenuous to read a portion of what I said, including the "never before has the support been so high from both parties" portion and then make "observations" like this inanity.
 
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From no to yes in one plane ride. Yeah, it's subjective evidence, but it is evidence enough for most that aren't blindly partisan to make a judgment.

And yes, previously I have said much the same about republicans who have made much the same decisions after "talking" with the President.

I dont belive that, I think Dennis is much too principled of a man, he may have gotten some promises for support on future amendments to the Health Care plan... but it comes down, at this point, to what is better in his opinion... the bill or the status quo.
 
You're a disgrace. Who pays you to write this swill? You've got to be on the take.
Are you a child? What happened to you? You used to actually make points, now you just post this dribble whenever you see a point you cannot refute.

Seriously. It's like you've given up on thought and decided to just try to ad hominem your way through the board.
 
I dont belive that, I think Dennis is much too principled of a man, he may have gotten some promises for support on future amendments to the Health Care plan... but it comes down, at this point, to what is better in his opinion... the bill or the status quo.
I think you have placed Dennis on a pedestal he has, just moments ago, proven not to deserve.
 
I think you have placed Dennis on a pedestal he has, just moments ago, proven not to deserve.

Maybe. Truthfully I dont like a lot about the guys politics, but I have always seen him take principled stances over personal gain.

My point is that I personally do not belive that there is anythign wrong with people voting for a bill or against it in an early vote... in a stratigic way, then changing there vote at the end.

To me attacking people for that is purely emotional based on nuthing!
 
Maybe. Truthfully I dont like a lot about the guys politics, but I have always seen him take principled stances over personal gain.

My point is that I personally do not belive that there is anythign wrong with people voting for a bill or against it in an early vote... in a stratigic way, then changing there vote at the end.

To me attacking people for that is purely emotional based on nuthing!
If it were on principal it would not take a special trip on Air Force One in order to change your mind. Something was promised.

I respected him for often taking a principled stance in the past even though I do not agree with him on almost any issue that exists in politics. In this one, he showed me that everybody has their price.
 
Are you a child? What happened to you? You used to actually make points, now you just post this dribble whenever you see a point you cannot refute.

Seriously. It's like you've given up on thought and decided to just try to ad hominem your way through the board.


Just giving you a dose of what you dish out. And you ought to take a long hard look in the mirror before you start lecturing others.
 
If it were on principal it would not take a special trip on Air Force One in order to change your mind. Something was promised.

I respected him for often taking a principled stance in the past even though I do not agree with him on almost any issue that exists in politics. In this one, he showed me that everybody has their price.

You believe that if they were promising him something they would make a show of it by taking the guy up on AF1...
 
Just giving you a dose of what you dish out. And you ought to take a long hard look in the mirror before you start lecturing others.
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No. You are not. I posted my opinion and why I think it, you posted rubbish that attacked me personally and gave no opinion other than childish ad homs. You've become a pale shadow of the Dungheap I used to know and actually sometimes agree with.

Nowadays you see something somebody posts and all you do is say some form of "Man yer a hack."
 
:rolleyes:

No, you're not. I posted my opinion and why I think it, you posted rubbish that attacked me personally and gave no opinion other than childish ad homs. You've become a pale shadow of the Dungheap I used to know and actually sometimes agree with.


Well, my opinion is that you're on the take since you used to be a somewhat reasonable person with occasional bouts of lunacy and now you're a typical right-wing bomb-thrower that has a rare fit of lucidity. The obvious conclusion is that you're on the take.
 
Well, my opinion is that you're on the take since you used to be a somewhat reasonable person with occasional bouts of lunacy and now you're a typical right-wing bomb-thrower that has a rare fit of lucidity. The obvious conclusion is that you're on the take.

He has a point...

Who has paid you to be so differnt than you used to be?
 
dungnigel has become a huge hack...what is truly disappointing is that he also sometimes engages in outright dishonesty in order to not 'lose' a point...
 
Well, my opinion is that you're on the take since you used to be a somewhat reasonable person with occasional bouts of lunacy and now you're a typical right-wing bomb-thrower that has a rare fit of lucidity. The obvious conclusion is that you're on the take.
And now you attempt to couch "yer a hack" in yet other terms. It's just sad. Seriously, a bit of introspection may be in order. Jarod was able to produce reasons why his opinion is different than mine. You? Just another sad ad hominem. I used to enjoy talking with you, now it's only this.
 
Well, my opinion is that you're on the take since you used to be a somewhat reasonable person with occasional bouts of lunacy and now you're a typical right-wing bomb-thrower that has a rare fit of lucidity. The obvious conclusion is that you're on the take.

Damo, the RNC better not be paying you more than they pay me!.....
 
I have, but its getting out of control expensive and its set to expire in November.
 
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