did obama actually show bipartisanship or compromise?

[Mott the Hoople]

*sigh*

You don't see my point?

The post he quoted of mine was in response directly to an assertion how "Bush did it too". This shouldn't be the measure of good for you unless you are a hypocrite. He obviously didn't read that previous post, knee-jerked into how I supposedly thought and was wrong about it.

LOL Yea I have to agree "Bush Did it too" is not a standard I'd want.

 

[Damocles]

Nah; I'm just taking issue with attempts to portray Bush or the current GOP as somehow "better," or "far more successful."

Obama may have no interest in compromise, but neither does the GOP. The only difference is that the GOP isn't really interested in addressing healthcare as a whole, either (and you're deluding yourself if you think they are).

That particular piece was clear sarcasm directed at the "Bush did it" portion of his post. Again, all the years we've been talking to each other and you attempt to assign meaning that isn't in the post....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The only reason Bush was "far more successful" (in your estimation) was because Republicans were better at marketing, and always have been.

It isn't always about marketing...when you find yourself trying to sell a product that obviously sucks, it doesn't matter how hard you try to market it.....

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
You forget that the "problems" were adhering to the fallacy of the "60 vote" requirement....it really only takes 51. All legal and above board.

They are taking responsibility, by taking measures to nullify such POS wedges as Liberman, and Dixiecrat/blue dog Dems. And they're doing it WITHOUT a Dem version of Tom Delay, or Ashcroft or Lott or Gingrich.

LOL. That isn't what Obama and Reid said in 2005. And then the opposite party will bitch and moan when they are on the receiving end. Yes, periodical hypocrisy reigns in our political system...tell us all something we don't know. Still doesn't change the main point I put forth here.
Right, because Obama is totally incapable. You should indeed roll your eyes, because that statement of yours doesn't make a fucking bit of sense with regards to what I stated (unless you're a neocon parrot, that is).
All you offer are excuses for your own ineffectiveness. The Rs can't even filibuster without your party's consent (well they can now, if they get Brown to agree).

THINK about what you're saying......the Dems are inept because they didn't use the bullish but legal tactics of the neocon driven GOP and were stopped at EVERY turn by obstructionist GOP tactics.....then they're demonized for doing what it takes to get the job done. Damned if they do, damned if they dont'...gee, what a typical neocon mantra.

The reality is, there really is no way you can blame it on the Rs without just sounding weak and ineffective.

Nobody said the Dems were doing a stellar act.....but to try and dismiss, minimalize or excuse the GOP's role given the FACTS is absurd to say the least