I don't see many people talking about why the National Anthem was the time and place that was chosen for protests. I suspect that the protesters calculated that the National Anthem would be the moment that would make the biggest impact, which would also mean that they knew it would offend the most people. It seams clear that they know good and well that it is disrespectful to the country, the flag, and the fallen, to protest at such an inappropriate time.
Disrespect during the National Anthem
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Fentoine Lum
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Fuck that, the corporate state's illusion has worn thin, people see what they see going on.
Why do you think they chose the National Anthem for their protests?
Fentoine Lum
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a) read the lyrics
b) patsiotic displays like the anthem and pledge are nothing but homages to the power structure that condones the power of the state murdering unarmed citizens in the street
If it were in any other country you would howl. We invade others for such governmental oppression, ostensibley and dishonestly, but still.
Jesus H. Christ. How the hell can anyone have a reasonable conversation with someone who starts a thought with something as absurd as that?
Half the fucking country has been talking about it...and the other half are politically brain dead.
If you have been unable to "see" it...you are part of the brain dead.
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
They protest when everyone will see. You morons want them to protest out of sight, out of mind. That kills the purpose, and is just sour grapes. The fact the ones who are a lot of the problem get so flamed by it, only intensifies that they were in the right to protest. Any way they'd find to protest, you twits would still find a way to get butthurt, and whine like spoiled princesses about it. You think kids getting shot up doesn't put them in the right to protest either. Curl up in the fetal position, and moan about it to dead relatives, or something. They can't tell you to grow up, or shut up verbally. If you find shut the hell up written in a mirror, I'd shut up though. The people will stand for America, when America gets over itself, and stands for them.
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Please fill me in why this specific time, place, and platform were chosen instead of a some other one. I am not talking about what the agenda of the protesters might be, I am talking about why the specific setting was chosen.
That's his MO, Frank.
Post absurd bullshit and then predicts that he will be attacked by liberals. He is well-practiced at that lame tactic.
Additionally, when you provide an answer, he'll keep asking the same question over and over. Too stupid to comprehend.
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Everybody saw, just like they planned. There is little discussion of whatever their specific agenda might be, and political discussion revolves around the inappropriate setting that they chose, so they apparently screwed this up.
Why do you think they chose the specific setting that they did?
Fentoine Lum
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This stuff frightens the power structure. Review Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath, division of the masses was the response of the isolated and outnumbered aristocracy. Review the Powell Memorandum. The last big push against the power structure was in the late 1950’s-the early 1970’s. The power structure learned much about keeping the masses divided and subjugated, what scared them terribly was the “unusual” uniting across the power structure’s fomented socioeconomic lines.
The unsubstantial people have no standing in society, no legitimacy; we are merely commodities and servants with which the aristocracy pathologically chases ever more profit margin growth to infinity, it’s a disease. We’re a murderous society and a global militarist empire that drops 121 bombs per day – one every 12 minutes, while half the nation’s children live in poverty. But the empire’s aristocracy learned to take over any semblance of a representative form of government, the economic system, the for profit war machine and the media. You will no longer see the body bags on TV. Protests too on TV are scary for them, horribly.
They have no power, what they have is authority and we have all been taught that authority is power, it’s not, they know this, and as such, authority is always on shaky ground by definition.
Any who question must be marginalized.
The system reacts like this because it is afraid enough of us will wake up, see america for what it really is, and that we will cease cooperation and participation in the illusion.
“[A social division exists] between the rich and the poor, the laborious and the idle, the learned and the ignorant. … Nothing, but force, and power and strength can restrain [the latter].” —John Adams in a letter to Thomas Jefferson (1787)
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I smell a commie soul.
Fentoine Lum
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Bwa ha ha ha ha ha, I always love this stuff, great discussion.
"Commie".
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ...
Zarathustra
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If people are offended by someone kneeling during the national anthem at a sports game, then they are literally the most special snowflakes on the fucking planet.
Kap took a knee to protest police abuse of blacks. that is all. What is disrespectful to America is the abuse of some of its citizens by the police. Quietly taking a knee in protest hurts nobody.
They? Kapernack did it all by himself. the others just followed his lead.
You started your bullshit thread with the sentence, "I don't see many people talking about why the National Anthem was the time and place that was chosen for protests."
My comment about that was, "Jesus H. Christ. How the hell can anyone have a reasonable conversation with someone who starts a thought with something as absurd as that?
Half the fucking country has been talking about it...and the other half are politically brain dead.
If you have been unable to "see" it...you are part of the brain dead. "
Thank you for allowing me to repeat it.
The specific setting was chosen because that was the setting that would get the most attention. In case you did not realize it, there are cameras and fans at NFL games...and doing the kneeling during the anthem was more likely to get coverage than kneeling while the game is in progress.
Any protestor might also protest in the cellar of his home at night with no one there...but only an American conservative would be that stupid.
So?
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I get that they wanted camera time....What is it that they are protesting again. though? And how will kneeling or sitting or fist up or staying in the tunnel during the anthem make a difference other than bringing negative attention to them?
Has it changed anything for the positive yet? If they continue and amp it up, as you seem to believe that they will, what is it that they "expect" to happen?
Going golfing this morning? Pretty wet here, but that never seems to stop anyone...
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Retired Teacher
What other American traditions concern you?