Divide between Obama and Romney makes this election campaign the most divisive

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Excellent article from Max Hastings about the Presidential race.

The President does not do the common touch. Americans love the sort of guy who looks capable of singing a song round the campfire on a deerhunt. Obama cannot deliver that, and it costs him votes. Indeed, if he is re-elected, it will be on the backs of minorities: Latinos — who are rooting 72 per cent for the President against 20 per cent for Romney — and black people, who are even more decisively Democratic, together with relatively sophisticated white voters.

There was a joke after George W. Bush won re-election in 2004: young Democrats put out a map showing in blue the East and West coast states their party won, with the red mass of Republican states labelled ‘the crazy bits in between’. In today’s United States, there are an awful lot of ‘crazy bits in between’ — places whose inhabitants will fight to the death for their right to own assault rifles; who think abortion Satanic; who would happily nuke Iran; and are unashamed to despise uppity black men like their President. Such narrow-mindedness has been reflected in the violence of Republican hatred for the incumbent.

They have thrown every ball of mud they can against Obama, any charge that might stick. Some Florida Republicans have flooded four million mailboxes with a DVD claiming Obama is not merely a Muslim, but the son of a black Communist. Lunatic talk-show host Rush Limbaugh declared: ‘It can now be said without equivocation that this man hates this country. He is trying to dismantle, brick-by-brick, the American dream.’ A huge billboard in Florida shows a genuine photograph of the President supposedly abasing himself as he bows before the Saudi Arabian king when they met in 2009, beside numbers showing the U.S. petrol price at $1.89 a gallon when he took office, and $3.89 today.

Republican congressman Mike Coffman claims: ‘In his heart . . . Obama’s just not an American.’ Mitt Romney merely says: ‘This President doesn’t understand freedom.’ Yet Romney himself, in the last phase of the campaign, has sought to shed his image as standard-bearer of the far Right and prospective bomber of Iran. He had two big, possibly decisive, successes in the three TV presidential debates.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...election-campaign-divisive-recent-memory.html
 
Were you listening during the foreign debate policy? There is no divide! That's why they have to spend so much time insulting each other, otherwise people figure out they're being offered the same option twice.
 
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The real difference is easy to spot for rightwing racists...can you see it?
 
Policy wise, they are not that much different. Romney is more tolerant of homophobes, pro life nuts and religious zealots, but the boards flag lovers (wrong one) are just useful idiots to him. The scary thing is that Romney would reempower the NeoCons and there failed arrogant and aggressive foreign policy.
 
Romney is a wealthy patrician of no mean ability who will make any sales pitch he needs too to win this election. If elected he'll probably govern as a technocrat which will piss of the Repelican base as much as Obama's governing as a moderate has pissed off the Democratic base. The main difference I see is that on economic policy Obama is a Keyensian and Romney is a supply sider. On Foreign policy Obama is an internationalist who believes in engagement and it appears that Romney is a neoconservative. At least he's been using neocon rhetoric on the stump.

If elected either would govern competently and both will be a far cry away for the incompetant disaster that was the Bush Presidency.
 
I thought the article was pretty lousy too. What's all this bs about convincing people that they will have to get buy with less? Are all of you guys suicidal?

There is little doubt that Americans need to get used to the idea that we might fade a bit in relative terms but that is no reason for general despair. Also culturally, the social conservatives are still going to lose. We have referendums in several states that are likely to deliver losses to the haters. Even if they don't pass the trends are clearly against the haters.
 
Policy wise, they are not that much different. Romney is more tolerant of homophobes, pro life nuts and religious zealots, but the boards flag lovers (wrong one) are just useful idiots to him. The scary thing is that Romney would reempower the NeoCons and there failed arrogant and aggressive foreign policy.
Because Obama has totally depowered the aggressive foreign policy. Sure, I can see that... (Sigh)
 
Because Obama has totally depowered the aggressive foreign policy. Sure, I can see that... (Sigh)

He is not exactly what I or you may want on foreign policy, but to pretend he has been as aggressive and arrogant as Bush was on foreign policy is to make yourself seem unappeasable and therefore totally irrelevant on those issues. He has clearly not been the sabre rattling moron that Bush was. McCain was even worse than Bush and, rhetorically, Romeny has been as well.

Foreign policy wise I did not expect anything more from Obama. He did not promise anything more. Where I am majorly disappointed is on the civil liberty issues and his expansion of Presidential powers.
 
He is not exactly what I or you may want on foreign policy, but to pretend he has been as aggressive and arrogant as Bush was on foreign policy is to make yourself seem unappeasable and therefore totally irrelevant on those issues. He has clearly not been the sabre rattling moron that Bush was. McCain was even worse than Bush and, rhetorically, Romeny has been as well.

Foreign policy wise I did not expect anything more from Obama. He did not promise anything more. Where I am majorly disappointed is on the civil liberty issues and his expansion of Presidential powers.

I'm pretty easy to appease, don't invade countries. Demanding innaction is the easiest thing, doing nothing is not hard.

As for what Obama has done, in 4 years, he has attacked Libya, continued the Afghan war, exponentially increased drone strikes on neutral countries and civilians, if releected I would guess he will make overt moves against Syria and Iran.

That would be 3 invasions and 1 ongoing occupation, Bush had 2 in 8 years, I think Obama wins by the numbers.
 
I have no idea what you just asked me.

Silly me, I assumed that you read the OP.

There was a joke after George W. Bush won re-election in 2004: young Democrats put out a map showing in blue the East and West coast states their party won, with the red mass of Republican states labelled ‘the crazy bits in between’. In today’s United States, there are an awful lot of ‘crazy bits in between’ — places whose inhabitants will fight to the death for their right to own assault rifles; who think abortion Satanic; who would happily nuke Iran; and are unashamed to despise uppity black men like their President. Such narrow-mindedness has been reflected in the violence of Republican hatred for the incumbent.
 
This Tom is an example of what you call "Soft Racism". The Author is making an assumption that we all want to be rednecks. He's an asshole, we're not all that way.

Max Hastings is anything but an arsehole, if you read the entire article I cannot see how you could come to such a conclusion.
 
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