Dixie and Dumb America

Well, knock me over with a feather....

very good....though I think you understated the problem some....
I think you credit rank and file citizens with much more smarts than they deserve...most would be stars on Jay Leno's Jaywalking skit.....

No not really. America has never let a lack of smarts prevent us from getting things done. That's what's great about "can do" America! :)

I'm more the optimist than the cynic. I think our future looks very bright. Americans always seem to be at their best when times are at their worst and were the most to be feared when we have the most to fear.

God I love this country! :)
 
My debate isn't with Dixie, it is with the anti-intellectualism he represents. Let's face it, anyone who can use as their avatar a symbol that represents in part the enslavement of fellow humans is not very deep. But weekly he posts confusing nonsense about others, nonsense that shows why the statistics mentioned above are possible in nation that grows dumber all the time.

http://www.dumbestgeneration.com/home.html

Amazon.com: The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30): Mark Bauerlein: Books

Hey dumbass, my generation is infinitely better than yours. You Kaboomers are a truly failed generation, and no one cares what you potheads think.

Ironically, digital media represents what we now call the "Information Age," so your appeal to ignorance is too funny. Research can be done faster and more efficiently now than back when you and yours were roaming college campuses stoned out of your minds.
 
Hey dumbass, my generation is infinitely better than yours. You Kaboomers are a truly failed generation, and no one cares what you potheads think.

Ironically, digital media represents what we now call the "Information Age," so your appeal to ignorance is too funny. Research can be done faster and more efficiently now than back when you and yours were roaming college campuses stoned out of your minds.

Well why did none of the information age eggspurts see this finiancial near collapse coming?
The boomers actually built up wealth and the next ones are blowing it all.
 
Well why did none of the information age eggspurts see this finiancial near collapse coming?
The boomers actually built up wealth and the next ones are blowing it all.

No, the Greatest Generation built up the wealth of 1950-1968. The people who brought about the Bull Market in the 80s were also older than the Kaboomers.

My generation is mostly too young to have played a role in the financial mess, seeing as how the Millenial Generation is arbitrarily said to have started anywhere from 1979-1985 (most recent date I saw was 1982). At our oldest estimate, our senior members turned 30 this year.

If you want to blame anyone other than Kaboomers for the current mess, its Gen X.
 
Hey dumbass, my generation is infinitely better than yours. You Kaboomers are a truly failed generation, and no one cares what you potheads think.

Ironically, digital media represents what we now call the "Information Age," so your appeal to ignorance is too funny. Research can be done faster and more efficiently now than back when you and yours were roaming college campuses stoned out of your minds.

And the digital age has given access to so much information that many people cannot differentiate between useful research and junk.

All this access to data does not improve knowledge. There are still too many people quoting the "we only use 10% of our brain" idea that was debunked in the late 1800s. Too many people still think you can see the Great Wall of China from space. And the number of circulating emails that perpetuate urban myths is stunning.

Instant access to all this data has led to more people searching narrower parameters for the answer they want. Instead of looking to find information and educating themselves they search for data to prove what they want the answer to be and ignore anything that contradicts their preconceived notions.
 
And the digital age has given access to so much information that many people cannot differentiate between useful research and junk.

All this access to data does not improve knowledge. There are still too many people quoting the "we only use 10% of our brain" idea that was debunked in the late 1800s. Too many people still think you can see the Great Wall of China from space. And the number of circulating emails that perpetuate urban myths is stunning.

Instant access to all this data has led to more people searching narrower parameters for the answer they want. Instead of looking to find information and educating themselves they search for data to prove what they want the answer to be and ignore anything that contradicts their preconceived notions.
Oh don't be silly. Next you're going to try and tell me that there is no Santa Clause and that Jesus was a Jew. ;)
 
The Dixies' and the rest of dumbed-down America marginalize themselves. They are neither the challenge nor the question. The future of America is the challenge, and the challenge to that future comes in the form of more corporate control of the levers of our government, not from what a dwindling horde of right-wing ideologues think or believe.

Right-wingers have shouted their way into irrelevance and disdain. There are far better things to think about than what the Dixies' of the world have to say.

Such as, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and the further expansion of American military aggression .. which has not changed since Obama became president.

What do we do about nuclear proliferation, which is inevitable as long as we have nuclear weapons. If we have them, then every nation has a right to them. You don't get to have the only gun .. and as we've seen, it doesn't take having 10,000 nuclear weapons to be dangerous. It only takes one.

What about healthcare? Forget what the Dixies' are saying, they don't count. The battle will be against Obama and his minamalist plans that will only amount to healthcare tweaking, not real healthcare reform.

There are a myriad of questions and issues that will require serious thought .. but what the right-wing thinks cannot be considered serious thought.

God Dammit BAC,
do you have to be a socialist, I'd vote for you or anyone in LA with that platform. word Son, Obama will win you over eventually.
 
No, the Greatest Generation built up the wealth of 1950-1968. The people who brought about the Bull Market in the 80s were also older than the Kaboomers.

My generation is mostly too young to have played a role in the financial mess, seeing as how the Millenial Generation is arbitrarily said to have started anywhere from 1979-1985 (most recent date I saw was 1982). At our oldest estimate, our senior members turned 30 this year.

If you want to blame anyone other than Kaboomers for the current mess, its Gen X.

You certainly didn't with the shit job you have. LOFL
 
Mott, no one is leaving us in the dust. You must get over the slowness of OSU. Did you see florida state beat you 37 - 6 in baseball. You must have had your secondary as outfield.
China graduating engineers is a good thing. There per capita income is less than 10,000. You'll be dead when and if they ever pass us.
 
My debate isn't with Dixie, it is with the anti-intellectualism he represents. Let's face it, anyone who can use as their avatar a symbol that represents in part the enslavement of fellow humans is not very deep. But weekly he posts confusing nonsense about others, nonsense that shows why the statistics mentioned above are possible in nation that grows dumber all the time.

http://www.dumbestgeneration.com/home.html

Amazon.com: The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30): Mark Bauerlein: Books
Yet they vote Democrat... Things that make you go, "Hmm..... "
 
Dixie's threads are always self referential. When faced with a question he cannot resolve in his world he will change the question. It is why he needs the last word. He lost badly the debate on WMDs in Iraq, and yet I would bet to this day he would still argue and force the issue into some other area in which he can then destroy an argument that exists only in his creation.

But Dixie is at least articulate; you can understand him. But what of all the other Americans, the forty percent in this nation who are functionally illiterate? Can one, for instance believe that as a nation we have become so dumb Sarah Palin was viable candidate? A person whose intellect was somewhere around the 5th grade. And what are the criticisms of Gore, Kerry, or Obama? They can actually create a structured sentence and not grunt words together like W - A guy who looks good in jeans, and we want to have a beer with, and so we vote for this inarticulate, incurious C student.

Russia could not defeat America, but America, just as Russia did, will defeat itself if it does not learn that some things are important and ideas are not all the same. The constant repetitive groans from the illiterate on global warming, on fair wages, on fair taxes, on government will surely have a toll. They already have.

Consider a few items from a recent article in Harper's Magazine. One out of every four Americans believe they have been reincarnated, 44% percent believe in ghosts, 71% believe in angels, forty percent Gawd created all things in their present form in the last 10,000 years. Twenty percent think the sun may revolve around the earth. The list goes on.

One can then ask themselves is it necessary that a citizen be educated. Can one even imagine Abraham Lincoln talking to Americans today for two hours straight. No. Can one imagine FDR's speeches: 'we are in this together, we need to work hard.' No. They would be out the door, headed for cheap junk at Walmart that makes them happy, or quickly turn on 24 so they can get that tingly fear and wonderful relief as Jack saves them from all things bad. Does jack work in government? Sorry, I have never watched the show, the coming attractions are enough for me.

From 'Notebook, A Quibble,' By Mark Slouka

"I was raised to be ashamed of my ignorance, and to try to do something about it if at all possible. I carry that burden to this day, and have successfully passed it on to my children. I don’t believe I have the right to an opinion about something I know nothing about—constitutional law, for example, or sailing—a notion that puts me sadly out of step with a growing majority of my countrymen, many of whom may be unable to tell you anything at all about Islam, say, or socialism, or climate change, except that they hate it, are against it, don’t believe in it. Worse still (or more amusing, depending on the day) are those who can tell you, and then offer up a stew of New Age blather, right-wing rant, and bloggers’ speculation that’s so divorced from actual, demonstrable fact, that’s so not true, as the kids would say, that the mind goes numb with wonder. “Way I see it is,” a man in the Tulsa Motel 6 swimming pool told me last summer, “if English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for us.”

Quite possibly, this belief in our own opinion, regardless of the facts, may be what separates us from the nations of the world, what makes us unique in God’s eyes. The average German or Czech, though possibly no less ignorant than his American counterpart, will probably consider the possibility that someone who has spent his life studying something may have an opinion worth considering. Not the American. Although perfectly willing to recognize expertise in basketball, for example, or refrigerator repair, when it comes to the realm of ideas, all folks (and their opinions) are suddenly equal. Thus evolution is a damned lie, global warming a liberal hoax, and Republicans care about people like you."

http://www.harpers.org/

My guess is that you are wrong on global warming, wrong on 'fair wages', wrong on 'fair taxes' and wrong on government.

I also note your bias... you point to Bush's 'C' grade yet fail to do so for Kerry. Why is that?

As for the 40% believe God created everything in the last 10,000 years... do you have a link to that poll?
 
The Dixies' and the rest of dumbed-down America marginalize themselves. They are neither the challenge nor the question. The future of America is the challenge, and the challenge to that future comes in the form of more corporate control of the levers of our government, not from what a dwindling horde of right-wing ideologues think or believe.

Right-wingers have shouted their way into irrelevance and disdain. There are far better things to think about than what the Dixies' of the world have to say.

Such as, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and the further expansion of American military aggression .. which has not changed since Obama became president.

What do we do about nuclear proliferation, which is inevitable as long as we have nuclear weapons. If we have them, then every nation has a right to them. You don't get to have the only gun .. and as we've seen, it doesn't take having 10,000 nuclear weapons to be dangerous. It only takes one.

What about healthcare? Forget what the Dixies' are saying, they don't count. The battle will be against Obama and his minamalist plans that will only amount to healthcare tweaking, not real healthcare reform.

There are a myriad of questions and issues that will require serious thought .. but what the right-wing thinks cannot be considered serious thought.

 
Too funny I thought all liberals were rich elitists, now they're poor peons!

Mottleydude, we will never be able to compete with India or China in terms of the number of people or labor cost. But that said there is no way I want to see this country become a third world nation as all jobs, knowledge, and craftsmanship goes overseas. I work with Asian Indians often and while they have fancy degrees they aint no smarter dan we. If America doesn't stop being the consumer of all junk Chinese and all support Indian and pays a little more for the work to be done here, our grandchildren will inherit something less than we did.
 
Too funny I thought all liberals were rich elitists, now they're poor peons!

Mottleydude, we will never be able to compete with India or China in terms of the number of people or labor cost. But that said there is no way I want to see this country become a third world nation as all jobs, knowledge, and craftsmanship goes overseas. I work with Asian Indians often and while they have fancy degrees they aint no smarter dan we. If America doesn't stop being the consumer of all junk Chinese and all support Indian and pays a little more for the work to be done here, our grandchildren will inherit something less than we did.

they may not be smarter, sounds like they are more achieved more in school than you did which pays all the same.
WE need some serious tarriffs
 
they may not be smarter, sounds like they are more achieved more in school than you did which pays all the same.
WE need some serious tarriffs

In honesty they are annoying as heck sometimes. They try hard, too hard, and if Americans lived in a similar situation it may change some of the values of our youth. But they are cheap, walmart cheap, so over there, over there, go our jobs. A third world nation with so many people and such a high level of technical knowledge is something no one considered when data entry work started this phenomenon. Every day, people in this country are being displaced by them. I see this first hand.
 
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