Do conservatives even know what CRT is?

LV426 said:
It doesn't.




1/6.




Yes.

See: Redlining
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If CRT doesn’t divide oppressors vs oppressed based on race, then people of color aren’t being oppressed?

Bullshit, on 1/6 having the first thing to do with race. It was over an election, for crying out loud.

The word ‘yes’ doesn’t prove systemic racism is anything more than an artificial construct.

Define redlining and prove it’s an actual thing.
 
Darth Omar said:
If CRT doesn’t divide oppressors vs oppressed based on race, then people of color aren’t being oppressed?

Bullshit, on 1/6 having the first thing to do with race. It was over an election, for crying out loud.

The word ‘yes’ doesn’t prove systemic racism is anything more than an artificial construct.

Define redlining and prove it’s an actual thing.
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Being a real estate guy redlining was real. It was legal to discriminate against black buyers and black people were denied loans and those with money denied the opportunity to live in certain (read: nicer) neighborhoods. Redlining was made illegal but there's no question that it has had an affect on black families being able to build wealth through the generations as white people were able to do.

That being said it's not justification for CRT and the ideology they want to present.
 
cawacko said:
Being a real estate guy redlining was real. It was legal to discriminate against black buyers and black people were denied loans and those with money denied the opportunity to live in certain (read: nicer) neighborhoods. Redlining was made illegal but there's no question that it has had an affect on black families being able to build wealth through the generations as white people were able to do.

That being said it's not justification for CRT and the ideology they want to present.
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Good enough, but that’s in the past along with a lot of other historical racism that’s been made illegal.
 
OH MY LORD! I created a thread on /b/ about CRT and this is the image that was posted. It describes those Republicans perfectly!!!!! The paranoia they exhibit! :rofl2:

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AProudLefty said:
OH MY LORD! I created a thread on /b/ about CRT and this is the image that was posted. It describes those Republicans perfectly!!!!! The paranoia they exhibit! :rofl2:

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I started a thread on it based on a rowdy school board meeting in a *blue* VA county. The parents were upset about something with CRT in schools. Apparently, it’s not just Republican parents who are ‘misinformed’ about CRT.
 
Darth Omar said:
I started a thread on it based on a rowdy school board meeting in a *blue* VA county. The parents were upset about something with CRT in schools. Apparently, it’s not just Republican parents who are ‘misinformed’ about CRT.
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And yet nobody has given a single example of it being taught. No curriculum. No lesson. Nothing.
 
Darth Omar said:
Good enough, but that’s in the past along with a lot of other historical racism that’s been made illegal.
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I see it two ways. We did good by removing it but the reality is we’re still dealing with the after effects. Not that it should dominate our national discourse but the results of bad gov’t policy just don’t go away either. (For example the welfare system of the Great Society that tore apart families. We need to remove it but the effects of it will be with us for a long time).
 
cawacko said:
I see it two ways. We did good by removing it but the reality is we’re still dealing with the after effects. Not that it should dominate our national discourse but the results of bad gov’t policy just don’t go away either. (For example the welfare system of the Great Society that tore apart families. We need to remove it but the effects of it will be with us for a long time).
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Good luck on getting THAT taught in schools lol.

Why shouldn’t it be taught, lefties? It’s history, right?
 
cawacko said:
the reality is we’re still dealing with the after effects. ...but the results of bad gov’t policy just don’t go away either.
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That's exactly what is being discussed. Some just don't understand what CRT (or CLT) "teaches".

What I like about you is that you are like me, we both sit further back and see the whole picture or view.
 
AProudLefty said:
That's exactly what is being discussed. Some just don't understand what CRT (or CLT) "teaches".

What I like about you is that you are like me, we both sit further back and see the whole picture or view.
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I can be as partisan as the next guy but at a certain point it’s just boring. Tribalism trumps basic thought and discussion.

I differentiate between understanding our history and some of the CRT tenants of teaching young kids they are racist and oppressors etc. That will have the reverse effect of creating division and hate. I understand others will disagree
 
cawacko said:
I differentiate between understanding our history and some of the CRT tenants of teaching young kids they are racist and oppressors etc.
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See you aren't sitting further back. That's the point. Sit further back and you'll see that it doesn't teach that. While you are sitting further back, you'll see that they are not teaching the kids that they are racist and oppressors. No such thing exist.

That will have the reverse effect of creating division and hate. I understand others will disagree
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You and both sit way back up there in the rear, what do we see? Yes, it's the Republicans in the Congress and in the media who are creating the division and hate.
 
AProudLefty said:
See you aren't sitting further back. That's the point. Sit further back and you'll see that it doesn't teach that. While you are sitting further back, you'll see that they are not teaching the kids that they are racist and oppressors. No such thing exist.



You and both sit way back up there in the rear, what do we see? Yes, it's the Republicans in the Congress and in the media who are creating the division and hate.
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TBH, I stopped listening to what most politicians say. I can’t take them anymore. It is mindless and it’s the same thing over and over (and that includes Republicans).

I’ve read a lot on CRT (not from politicians). Here’s just one example. The Manhattan Institute is conservative but two of the guests were liberals who are pro CRT one of the guests is a Democrat but not for it and the other is more conservative and not for it. I’m not suggesting you listen to it because it’s over an hour but it was an excellent discussion between some very smart people, none of whom are politicians (and four of the five black).

My point is that I attempt to listen to all sides of this debate. I’m not just responding because I heard a (Republican) politician claim something.

(I’ll also add I don’t think it should be banned from schools like several states have done. I think that is a slippery slope with some potential bad unintended consequences.)

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/critical-race-theory-new-ideology-race
 
cawacko said:
TBH, I stopped listening to what most politicians say. I can’t take them anymore. It is mindless and it’s the same thing over and over (and that includes Republicans).

I’ve read a lot on CRT (not from politicians). Here’s just one example. The Manhattan Institute is conservative but two of the guests were liberals who are pro CRT one of the guests is a Democrat but not for it and the other is more conservative and not for it. I’m not suggesting you listen to it because it’s over an hour but it was an excellent discussion between some very smart people, none of whom are politicians (and four of the five black).

My point is that I attempt to listen to all sides of this debate. I’m not just responding because I heard a (Republican) politician claim something.

(I’ll also add I don’t think it should be banned from schools like several states have done. I think that is a slippery slope with some potential bad unintended consequences.)

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/critical-race-theory-new-ideology-race
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CRT is for educators who want to learn about it and they can use it as a framework.

Do you know what CLT is about?
 
cawacko said:
I had to look it up. TBH I had not heard of it.
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CRT came from critical legal theory or studies. It has to do with how wealth impacts the legal system and institutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_legal_studies

Critical Legal Theory
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Overview
Critical legal studies (CLS) is a theory which states that the law is necessarily intertwined with social issues, particularly stating that the law has inherent social biases. Proponents of CLS believe that the law supports the interests of those who create the law. As such, CLS states that the law supports a power dynamic which favors the historically privileged and disadvantages the historically underprivileged. CLS finds that the wealthy and the powerful use the law as an instrument for oppression in order to maintain their place in hierarchy. Many in the CLS movement want to overturn the hierarchical structures of modern society and they focus on the law as a tool in achieving this goal.

History
CLS was officially started in 1977 at the conference at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, but its roots extend earlier to when many of its founding members participated in social activism surrounding the Civil Rights movement and the Vietnam War. The founders of CLS borrowed from non-legal fields such as social theory, political philosophy, economics, and literary theory. Among noted CLS theorists are Roberto Mangabeira Unger, Robert W. Gordon, and Duncan Kennedy.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/critical_legal_theory

Do you see where those ideas came from? Yep.
 
cawacko said:
I see it two ways. We did good by removing it but the reality is we’re still dealing with the after effects. Not that it should dominate our national discourse but the results of bad gov’t policy just don’t go away either. (For example the welfare system of the Great Society that tore apart families. We need to remove it but the effects of it will be with us for a long time).
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racist white man ignorance..............................

we need a anti racism law for Blacks like the asians got!!!!!

why isnt evince and the rest of the woke white folks avocating fo that
 
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