Do I Have The Right To Leave This Country For Good?

cawacko said:
Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. But even forming a new state isn't seceding from the Union which is what I think PR wants.
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Stop playing your stupid "duh" game. I explained at least a dozen times what I (we) want and you sit there continuing to play kiss up to your forum associates pretending that you don't have a clue.
 
Sardonic said:
Because you are nothing but a blow hard, all bitch and no action.
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And you, you little abortion queen bastard are currently running the show with your victim status card sticking out of your little whiny pocket. You are the establishment and you and your fellow shores are one of, if not THE biggest whiny victim groups among Democratic party lobbies.

You cannot debate a damn thing and you cannot stand what I'm saying so you slime your way onto this thread and troll and launch personal attacks at me. I never even brought you into this victim, you attacked me and your tactics are old hat in shutting down political free speech that you despise.

You screwed the country up - you stunk the country up and right now your anger and frustration is born out of your utter contempt for anyone who defies your precious government God and all it's social services especially those going toward your abortion agenda. You created the government families that are costing the tax payers billions of dollars and you have turned the institution of marriage into an absolute joke.
 
cawacko said:
Exactly. I look around the globe and there is no other place I would rather live than the United States and I feel very lucky to be an American. I'm going to assume I'm not the only one that feels that way. So I don't think it's Americans natural inclination to think we need to secede from the U.S. and start our own country. If that's the movement he wants to start he needs to tell and show people why it is in their interest to do so not just sit here and calling everyone idiot's and say you suck because you like football or looking at nude women.
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America is either going to return to it's constitutional roots or there will be a breakup of your precious totalitarian statist empire. America will eventually break up any way as has every other civilized nation. It's only a matter of time.

Either we destroy your political culture and the tax codes that empowers your elites or we leave with our private property in tow. The we'll create a country that the constitution instructed and the founders expected America to be as.

No more social security, Medicare and Medicaid. No more corporate tax rate, no more luxury tax, no more inheritance tax, no more national bank, no more military adventurism and empire building, no more foreign aid, no more special interest lobbies.

The line waiting to get into our new republic will be endless.
 
What the weirdoes always lack in majority votes: they count desert acres, cacti and the like, not people. On the whole, they prefer people to die - by hunger, lack of medical attention, gunshot or whatever. Lovely cold-hearted plutocrats!
 
philly rabbit said:
I'll leave and I'll take my private property with me when my state leaves.
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Do you have any rough idea on when that will happen? I mean, will the time between now and the accomplishment of that departure be measured in months, years, decades, or centuries, in your opinion?
 
maineman said:
Do you have any rough idea on when that will happen? I mean, will the time between now and the accomplishment of that departure be measured in months, years, decades, or centuries, in your opinion?
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Surely they will have to abolish universal suffrage and all that nonsense before they can even think of trying?
 
philly rabbit said:
America is either going to return to it's constitutional roots or there will be a breakup of your precious totalitarian statist empire. America will eventually break up any way as has every other civilized nation. It's only a matter of time.

Either we destroy your political culture and the tax codes that empowers your elites or we leave with our private property in tow. The we'll create a country that the constitution instructed and the founders expected America to be as.

No more social security, Medicare and Medicaid. No more corporate tax rate, no more luxury tax, no more inheritance tax, no more national bank, no more military adventurism and empire building, no more foreign aid, no more special interest lobbies.

The line waiting to get into our new republic will be endless.
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So essentially you want to create a real life Atlas Shrugged. How many people do you envision being in this Republic at its founding? Would you have trade relations with the U.S.?
 
cawacko said:
So essentially you want to create a real life Atlas Shrugged. How many people do you envision being in this Republic at its founding? Would you have trade relations with the U.S.?
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We'll have them standing five across trying to get in at the same time.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You didn't base your conspiracy theory on "federal intrusion" and are just now building that part of your strawman; but instead based it on your leaving.
You can leave at any time.
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I think it's funny as all hell over who's allied with Rana the jersey shore on this thread - U.S. A. Freedom - and this character Celtic.
 
cawacko said:
What state do you envision seceding?
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Doesn't matter.

We're going to take your best and brightest people. We're going to take families by the bushel. We're going to take your best educators. We're going to take middle class business owners by the ton load because they wont have to endure suffocating tax rates and inflation. We're going to take your best doctors and medical people because in our republic they wont have to bother with exuberate malpractice insurance because we'll cap malpractice suits and tort lawyers.

Parents will love us and leave you in droves because our educational system will be the model of the world with our public schools and private academies. Our kids will run circles around your kids on education because our kids wont have their brains soaked and turned into mush by governmental political correctness.

What will Rana the Jersey shore do next when she no longer has enough producers to support her freeloaders - the third world squatters and the welfare bums.

She'll watch her big centralized government capitulate.
 
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philly rabbit said:
What will Rana the Jersey shore do next when she no longer has enough producers to support her freeloaders - the third world squatters and the welfare bums?

She'll watch her big centralized government capitulate.
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It will implode. With all lazy fucks and no producers, that is the inevitable end result.
 
philly rabbit said:
Doesn't matter.

We're going to take your best and brightest people. We're going to take families by the bushel. We're going to take your best educators. We're going to take middle class business owners by the ton load because they wont have to endure suffocating tax rates and inflation. We're going to take your best doctors and medical people because in our republic they wont have to bother with exuberate malpractice insurance because we'll cap it.

Parents will love us and leave you in droves because our educational system will be the model of the world with our public schools and private academies. Our kids will run circles around your kids on education because our kids wont have their brains soaked and turned into mush by governmental political correctness.

What will Rana the Jersey shore do next when she no longer has enough producers to support her freeloaders - the third world squatters and the welfare bums?

She'll watch her big centralized government capitulate.
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You take me asking questions as meaning I'm unsupportive however you sound like me when I was single talking about what I would be like as a husband and father, except I didn't have the woman.

Where are you going to create this new nation? Who do you have today supporting you to start this new nation? You claim the federal government won't even allow a state to take a vote so you have no chance at creating this world you envision.
 
philly rabbit said:
I'll leave and I'll take my private property with me when my state leaves. And I defy you to try to stop me from doing that.

You want to stay in crap hole America then stay. But don't sit there and try to tell me with that parking lot attitude of yours what I can and can't do with my own private belongings.
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But the probability of your state leaving is minimal, at the very best.
But then, you didn't ask if you could leave when your state leaves.
You only asked if you could leave and the answer to that, is YES.

As to your generalization of your "personal property".
I will assume you have a TV and that TV is your personal property.
Do you pay a tax on it every year?
NO, you don't.

Now, let's expand that.
I will once again assume that you own a house and land.
Do you pay a tax on it every year?
YES, you do.

If you own it, why are you paying taxes on it?

Why don't you stop paying the taxes and see how long you can hang on to it. :)
 
philly rabbit said:
I'm leaving America because it stinks and it stinks because you and your associates made it that way. You are supposed to be the republican alternative and what have you and your party done for the country except play a back and forth game of catch with liberal democrats and nothing else. Every time your fraud party gets into power, it starts doing the exact same things as the other member of your social club does when they exit power and neither one of you ever loses total power because the agreement between both of you is that the loser always has enough meat left on the carcass to make sure they get their cut as the rules of the game.

As far as you personally are concerned, your utter fascination with liberals and your beliefs that they are the know all's and tell all's of society as you gaze at them starry eyed at their every word with your every desire to find solutions among the same people who created all the problems in the first place with your assistance is very telling indeed.
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I'm sure that as soon as you leave, the smell will vastly improve.
Not for you; but for us.

Please turn off the light, when you exit. :D
 
philly rabbit said:
Stop playing your stupid "duh" game. I explained at least a dozen times what I (we) want and you sit there continuing to play kiss up to your forum associates pretending that you don't have a clue.
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"We"??
"WE"??

I'm sorry to inform you; but the voices in your head, do not count as separate individuals. :p
 
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