Do Walls work? A serious border question.

QP!

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I am trying to follow the logic on this as Trump is still out claiming 'he did build the Wall and all that remains are some finishing touches', and that he was successful when it came to that campaign pledge and yet the Trump Wall is not stopping the migrants?

So how is that 'Trump succeeded in building his wall' ... 'Walls work' ... and yet 'Migrants are still getting in to the country'.


Magats, please explain.

- Trump claimed in a speech that when he left office, the border wall had needed only final touches.

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I am trying to follow the logic on this as Trump is still out claiming 'he did build the Wall and all that remains are some finishing touches', and that he was successful when it came to that campaign pledge and yet the Trump Wall is not stopping the migrants?

So how is that 'Trump succeeded in building his wall' ... 'Walls work' ... and yet 'Migrants are still getting in to the country'.


Magats, please explain.

QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeee, derp, derp, derp, you get dumber with each post.

The sudden invasion of illegals since brandon entered office can be explained in this one video,


Try really hard to be smarter.
 
Yes, walls work when they are also patrolled and guarded.

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Pakistan - Afghanistan border fence

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Israeli border wall

Are walls alone the solution? No, but they certainly make for a good security measure.
 
Yes, walls work when they are also patrolled and guarded.

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Pakistan - Afghanistan border fence

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Israeli border wall

Are walls alone the solution? No, but they certainly make for a good security measure.
Walls can keep people out, but they can also keep people in…remember Berlin.
 
I am trying to follow the logic on this as Trump is still out claiming 'he did build the Wall and all that remains are some finishing touches', and that he was successful when it came to that campaign pledge and yet the Trump Wall is not stopping the migrants?

So how is that 'Trump succeeded in building his wall' ... 'Walls work' ... and yet 'Migrants are still getting in to the country'.


Magats, please explain.

No, migrants will just find other ways to cross the border, such as via boat or plane. Many if not most undocumented people are here having overstayed their work visas.
 
Yes, walls work when they are also patrolled and guarded.

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Pakistan - Afghanistan border fence

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Israeli border wall

Are walls alone the solution? No, but they certainly make for a good security measure.[/QUOTE]

You understand that walls don't aren't a lot of help with underground tunnels?
 
Yes, walls work when they are also patrolled and guarded.

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Pakistan - Afghanistan border fence

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Israeli border wall

Are walls alone the solution? No, but they certainly make for a good security measure.

Why did you not post a picture of Trumps Wall, since it was basically completed and why does it not work?
 
Yeah, the walls will keep all the possible terrorists and millions of other illegals that biden let in from getting out. Good point.
They can keep you in as well. People who support wannabe dictators always think fascism won’t affect them. They were wrong.
 
I am trying to follow the logic on this as Trump is still out claiming 'he did build the Wall and all that remains are some finishing touches', and that he was successful when it came to that campaign pledge and yet the Trump Wall is not stopping the migrants?

So how is that 'Trump succeeded in building his wall' ... 'Walls work' ... and yet 'Migrants are still getting in to the country'.


Magats, please explain.

easy, Biden issued executive orders and fucked it all up.....
 
No, migrants will just find other ways to cross the border, such as via boat or plane. Many if not most undocumented people are here having overstayed their work visas.

But will the volume be the same as an unguarded, unsecure border?

About a third, to a quarter, of illegals in the US today are ones that overstayed a visa. We can quibble on the exact number, but if you reduce the illegal entry rate by 50% that's a major reduction in the problem. What you are making is a continuum fallacy.

So, a wall alone won't solve the problem. Let's add that all law enforcement can enforce immigration law to one extent or another. That is, any law enforcement agency can arrest someone for being here illegally. That doesn't have to mean some "Papers please" law, but rather we deny illegals access to legal identification while in the US. No driver's license, no ability to open a bank account, no ability to enter a contract, that sort of thing. No employer will hire you for fear of being arrested themselves. Toss in if you are here illegally and arrested, somebody will check your immigration status when necessary. If you're here illegally, no bail because you are a flight risk. You get held, get charged, get your day in court, and if found guilty, are deported.

The Yuma sector of the Southern border back in Clinton's term switched from catch and release to catch, hold, try, and deport. That is, you got caught coming across illegally, you went to jail, waited there until trial, if found guilty, you were deported. Within less than a month, crossings in the Yuma sector dropped by 90%. The word got out and people trying to enter illegally went to more 'friendly' border sectors where they wouldn't be held in jail if caught.
 
I am trying to follow the logic on this as Trump is still out claiming 'he did build the Wall and all that remains are some finishing touches', and that he was successful when it came to that campaign pledge and yet the Trump Wall is not stopping the migrants?

So how is that 'Trump succeeded in building his wall' ... 'Walls work' ... and yet 'Migrants are still getting in to the country'.


Magats, please explain.

Because Biden let them in, Sock.
 
I am trying to follow the logic on this as Trump is still out claiming 'he did build the Wall and all that remains are some finishing touches', and that he was successful when it came to that campaign pledge and yet the Trump Wall is not stopping the migrants?

So how is that 'Trump succeeded in building his wall' ... 'Walls work' ... and yet 'Migrants are still getting in to the country'.


Magats, please explain.
No, walls only slow them down.

Example:

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