DO you agree with the president on meaningful background checks.

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Trump never claimed to be a conservative -he's a populist -as am I

Trump isn't anything, he'll say or do nearly anything he thinks will advance his own personal interests

But as I said the GOP are following him like the wildebeest jumping into the river as he violates what they told us for decades were their defining principles

And what the hell is a populist? The term populist is overused, populism died with mass communication, everyone thinks they are part of some defining movement

 

[RB 60]

Some big differences ,white Christians where the majority, so everything was going fine for them, now they are becoming minority and fox news among other right wing news sources are ginning up their resentment, we saw the start during President Obama's 2 terms in office, any wonder why rightwing whites are going on killing sprees

You are a pathetic bigoted racist. Your opinions are worthless.

 

[dukkha]

Trump isn't anything, he'll say or do nearly anything he thinks will advance his own personal interests

But as I said the GOP are following him like the wildebeest jumping into the river as he violates what they told us for decades were their defining principles

And what the hell is a populist? The term populist is overused, populism died with mass communication, everyone thinks they are part of some defining movement

clearly you have no clue of what got Trump elected - a sincere and overwhelming understanding that DC is incapable of acting in the best interest of the common man -so we voted in Trump for real change

One aspect is trade. Neither the Dems of the Repubs would tackle NAFTA 2 or China trade talks.
Neither the Repubs or the Dems had any clue about how to grow wages.
Tax cuts AND deregulation were the first thing on the table..

Foreign policy meant Trump was going to try to improve Russian relations
( derailed because of the FBI investigation and generalized Russiaphobia).
Trump didn't get a change to triangulate against China as well - improved relations with Russia
may still help (but the damage is done)

If Trump gets re-elected Pelosi will have no chance but to deal on the wall and immigration reform-
and the Republican establishment will also have to go along with immigration reform.

None of this would have been possible with Hillary or the Repub's establishment candidates

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Read the last sentence in my post.

And yet you didn't use it in any military service, because that might have someone shooting back at you

A yellow bellied flag waver who likes to pose with his guns in safe spaces

 

[dukkha]

"If?" "If" we had stricter enforceable gun regulation prior to Parkland would the kid even have had weapons?

probably..guns are ubiquitous. The problem with gun control is that it doesn't address in particular those that need guns removed -and it targets legit interests as well.

Re d flags allow the cops/authorities to target deranged minds

 

[RB 60]

And yet you didn't use it in any military service, because that might have someone shooting back at you

A yellow bellied flag waver who likes to pose with his guns in safe spaces

Ahhh...listen to the bigoted racist trying to convince us he has been.
You don't get shot at cleaning the latrines, now do you?

 

[Truth Detector]

Amazing, he returns that quick and is wrong again

Amazing, you return that quick and are wrong and stupid again

I gave one, and there are a number of them, websites where you can obtain a weapon by just agreeing to the noted conditions. The responsibilities lie with the buyer and seller to meet the legal requirements, it doesn't take much to see it is a Craigslist for guns, a gun show loop on the Internet

Yes, and you were informed, but apparently have NOTHING between your ears to COMPREHEND, that you cannot BUY on the internet and doing so does not mitigate compliance with the laws. You were also informed, bit apparently cannot comprehend, that one cannot exchange or ship weapons without an FFL.

So stop being dishonest. Stop pretending you know what you are talking about and instead of being an arrogant pompous know-nothing, LISTEN to the FACTS for a change.

And last I recall, the greatest mass shooter in American history bought all his guns from legal sources,

Paddock obtained his weapons LEGALLY. He had no criminal history and he had no mental history. What LAW would have stopped him from committing his heinous atrocity?

...you going to try and tell us now Stephen Paddock wasn't a criminal

Before his act, he had no criminal history. Are you trying to suggest he had? Dunce. You're making my point but are too stupid to comprehend the OBVIOUS.

If you are going to exchange at least try to be partially correct every now and then

You're the one who has been WRONG. You are never right about anything. You haven't been right. The fact that you are too stupid to comprehend the OBVIOUS suggests that there isn't very much between your ears to do much comprehending.

How ironic that someone so woefully wrong and ignorant is arrogant and pompous while being a buffoon.

(time for the insults and corny videos)

Time for more lying and crying.

 

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I don't believe a word of that shit. Qualifying as a Sharpshooter (especially in the military, the DCM's are a bit more difficult) isn't that hard. My cousin's 10 yr. old kid could do it.

Look idiot, I explained what a person must go through to purchase a firearm on Armslist. You can't just click, pay and it comes to your door.

Arsecheese is a pathological lying buffoon. Ironic that he illustrates with pomposity and arrogance. He is the definition of a fool.

 

[Truth Detector]

lol..if it had stopped Parkland? that's a LOT

How would it have prevented the Parkland incident?

 

[Truth Detector]

This one is getting comical, now he wants proof, he's yet to offer anything invalidating my last three posts other than the usual personal insults most middle schoolers master, but now he wants proof, beautiful

Here's your proof, all of those principles I listed Republicans told us at one time were central to conservatism, fact, and since Trump has become President he has violated every one of them, fact, and the GOP supported Trump as he did it just like the wildebeest jumping into the river, another fact

It has nothing to do with what Democrats believe, they stick to the principles that define them, but you even asking if they care about the principles the right has abondoned is telling on its own

Unless you for real content to offer, give it a rest, you are going nowhere

When have leftists like you ever cared about family values, curtailing deficits and debt, global markets, a weakened Executive, judicial restraint and reducing discretionary spending?

 

[Truth Detector]

"If?" "If" we had stricter enforceable gun regulation prior to Parkland would the kid even have had weapons?

What "stricter" enforceable gun regulation would have prevented the Parkland incident?

 

[Truth Detector]

Some big differences ,white Christians where the majority, so everything was going fine for them, now they are becoming minority and fox news among other right wing news sources are ginning up their resentment, we saw the start during President Obama's 2 terms in office, any wonder why rightwing whites are going on killing sprees

Pegged the bullshit meter on this one you race hustling Marxist dunce.

 

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No, those without guns are demanding regulation so they can feel safer going to church, movies, malls, school, concerts, nightclubs, etc.

How are they safer when law abiding citizens are forced to comply with stricter regulation?

 

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How does owning a gun bring along any attitude with it, it is weapon, an object, most having little practical use in civil society

Poor arsecheese, too stupid to keep up with the conversation and being wrong. It's YOUR side who claims gun owners are Rambos and gun strokers asshat. Try to keep up.

 

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It seems to me, Trumps supporters would generally disagree with what he is talking about regarding Gun Control, is it true?


What are your thoughts, do you agree with Trump?

yes i disagree

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

I wrote this to someone yesterday. What do you think?

I'd like to see the guns treated like a combination of the purchase of cold medicine at the pharmacy, and a driver's license. You have to show ID, get a background check; that info goes into a national database accessible to law enforcement and certified mental health professionals (MDs, PhDs, clinical psychologists, certified family/marriage counselors who must apply and be approved). Then you have to show that you qualify to use the firearm and store it properly; a written and practical test would be required. So would liability insurance in case you're careless and it's stolen and used in a crime. Every couple of years you have to renew your license and a check of that database is done at that time. If there is reason to believe that you are a danger, that info is entered into the database and red-flagged. If proven accurate, law enforcement will be empowered to temporarily remove your firearms until a hearing that shows that you're not dangerous and in compliance. We'd have to come up with a way that the owner wouldn't be unnecessarily burdened with court costs since owning the firearm IS a right.

guns are not a privilege. they are a sacred right. we don't get permission from the government to have them. if you don't like it, pass an amendment.

 

[Cypress]

$300 a pop. No way someone ought to be subjected to that to buy a Ruger 10/22...or any other firearm.

As a matter of public safety, and to keep AK-47s out of the hands of nutjobs, criminals, and terrorists, I do not see why anyone would be reluctant in the least to implement France's psychological testing rules for gun ownership.

Although I think I can guess the reason why some JPP conservatives are so reluctant and recalcitrant to this - there are some here who undoubtedly would not pass psychological screening to own military style assault rifles.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

gun grabbers do not operate in good faith and simply cannot be trusted.

 

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clearly you have no clue of what got Trump elected - a sincere and overwhelming understanding that DC is incapable of acting in the best interest of the common man -so we voted in Trump for real change

One aspect is trade. Neither the Dems of the Repubs would tackle NAFTA 2 or China trade talks.
Neither the Repubs or the Dems had any clue about how to grow wages.
Tax cuts AND deregulation were the first thing on the table..

Foreign policy meant Trump was going to try to improve Russian relations
( derailed because of the FBI investigation and generalized Russiaphobia).
Trump didn't get a change to triangulate against China as well - improved relations with Russia
may still help (but the damage is done)

If Trump gets re-elected Pelosi will have no chance but to deal on the wall and immigration reform-
and the Republican establishment will also have to go along with immigration reform.

None of this would have been possible with Hillary or the Repub's establishment candidates

Personally, I'm not buying ninety nine percent of that which to attribute to Trump, but that is another topic, regardless, none of them makes him a Populist.

You might have some validation with the hate DC bit, but that is hardly a movement, if it were, the same people that voted for Trump would have thrown out all their existing representatives and Senators who are part of the beltway establishment. And, the hate Obama theme was just as evident

As I noted, Trump isn't anything ideolological, he would profess to nearly anything if he felt it benefited him personally, look at his track record, he has been all over the place on nearly every issue daring back to the 1980's

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

guns are not a privilege. they are a sacred right. we don't get permission from the government to have them. if you don't like it, pass an amendment.

That sounds like a great idea.

I pretty much gave up on this country ever doing anything sensible about firearms regulations when we did not nothing after little kids and their teachers were massacred at Sandy Hook. Your "sacred right" to have a death-dealing dick substitute apparently outweighs their sacred right to life. The only time life is precious to you gunhumpers is when it's still in someone's uterus.