Congress does provide the Executive Branch some leeway in moving funds or changing priorities. The restrictions that Congress places on the Executive Branch on how to move funds vary among the 12 appropriations bills. In turn, those agencies are often required to notify the congressional appropriations committees prior to moving funds.
Do you believe in the superiority of the presidency?
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Republicans first passed the line item veto act before Clinton was reelected, to go into effect after the election. They then went to the Supreme Court and got it overturned when Clinton was elected.
Besides, the budget has already been signed into law. trump cannot veto, or line item veto, it now.
Line Item Veto Act of 1996 - Wikipedia
I agree that there is some leeway, but you have to agree that trump is taken that leeway beyond any reason.
You have to agree that there is cause, Walter…massive waste, fraud, and abuse have already been uncovered.
Or, perhaps, you think that American taxpayers should be funding trans-freaks’ sex changes in Guatemala…Walter.
I disagree that Dodge has uncovered massive fraud. I believe that it has caused massive fraud. I know that you will say I should have "faith" in "Big Balls", but the whole point of accounting is that I should not need to take things on faith.
But that is not even the point. If the money is being misappropriated, like you claim, then trump is supposed to go to Congress to get it correctly appropriated. he is not just allowed to say, "Congress was wrong, so I am going to create my own budget."
And we come back to the original question, would you have been OK with Obama remaking the budget?
The DOGE team has proven there is massive waste, fraud, and abuse and they have just scratched tge surface.
Sixty billion dollars so far, Walter.
Do you ever inform yourself?
Keep defending waste, fraud, and abuse in government spending, Walter.
That will lose elections for Democrats forever.
tee's First Hearing Uncovers Billions Lost ...
United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability - (.gov)
https://oversight.house.gov › Press Releases
Feb 12, 2025 — And to those who would stand opposed to this effort, I would just point out, while it's understandable to find waste, fraud and abuse that has ...
Comer: DOGE Targets Billions in Government Waste ...
United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability - (.gov)
https://oversight.house.gov › Press Releases
5 days ago — Despite the excellent reports by GAO each year, there continues to be rampant waste, fraud, and abuse across the federal government. ... funds ...
They "proved" it by putting the claim on a website. They then had to remove it from the website, because it turned out to be a lie, but they think it is there... Somewhere... Maybe.
SmarterthanYou
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same as a democrat. I've been telling you idiots this for the last 24 years. now you get to reap what you've sown
SmarterthanYou
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why should the republicans/conservatives be any different than you democrats/liberals? when it's your 'own' favored president, you either advocate a usurped power, support unchecked power, or excuse unconstitutional actions. Don't even bother trying to lie and say YOU didn't, because you all did.
SmarterthanYou
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if the voting base/taxpayers voted in people that submitted that god awful budget of waste, fraud, and abuse, it is not on the president to do something about it, but the voters themselves.
Wrong!
SmarterthanYou
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lie to yourself all you need to, but we've all seen that you have done everything i've said you've done.
Wrong silly.
Teflon Don
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What exactly are you going on about? What do you mean by "superiority". Please clarify Jarod. If you are going to troll the board, have the decency to be precise with your language.
I have never come across a lawyer who is so imprecise with language. The contracts you draw up must be shit. Or do you just send people to LegalZoom now?
Teflon Don
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If you are asking whether or not I believe the President has the right to act within the framework of the US Constitution, then yes. I believe that. I believe that the US Senate abuses their "advise and consent" role on both sides.
I believe that EVERYTHING President Trump is doing is well within the bounds of his duties as President. You may not like it, but tough toe nails.
For example when Sleepy Joe Biden came in and wiped out Trumps executive orders with the stroke of a pen, I did not complain about it because it was within his purview as President. Doesn't matter whether I agreed with it or not.
But, what is hilarious is watching you marxists clutch your pearls over what President Trump is legally doing yet you stood by and applauded Biden violating the Constitution with his student loan bailout.
Don't worry, I don't expect you to reconcile your hypocrisy. I have long given up on that from you marxists
I don’t draw up contracts, not my area.
I chose that word because because it is broad, because The Felon’s attempts at “superiority” are far reaching. Do you believe in the unitary executive? Does the President have absolute authority over every element of the executive branch? Is the executive supreme over the legislative branch? Can he ignore an order by the Supreme Court?
The felon wants the presidency to be a kingship, whose only limit is losing an election, and even then we see his desire to remain in office after..
What order by the S.C. has he ignored?
He said that he would abide by court rulings.
Try harder not to suck.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
Right a lawyer who doesn't draw up contracts. Too busy chasing ambulances?
Well, if you want to use inappropriate words, I don't need to oblige your delusion.
This is what I do believe, I believe that the US Constitution vests 100% of the power and authority of the Executive Branch with the President of the United States. That means EVERYTHING that falls within the Executive Branch is under his purview and control. Period.
That doesn't mean there isn't oversight. That doesn't mean he has any control over the Legislative Branch. He can ignore a Supreme Court decision. Biden did it and i don't recall you screaming Constitutional crisis.
So spare me your crocodile tears when during a Democrat presidency you ignore these types of things and throw out words like "prosecutorial discretion".
The notion that there are "independent" agencies would mean that they are accountable to nobody. That is false.
The Legislative Branch has been ceding its power to the Executive Branch for decades now. First and foremost they let all powers of going in to military conflicts reside with the President. They have not declared an act of war since WWII. When writing laws, rather than being specific and precise in the language of the law, Congress vests the authority with the administering authority to craft regulations. Well, that is ceding power to the Executive Branch. If the Legislative Branch wants to get some power back from the Executive Branch it can do so legislatively and craft laws in ways that limit the Executive Branch's power to execute those laws.
This isn't complicated Jarod. Go back and watch reruns of Schoolhouse Rock. It will probably do a better job of teaching you than that Costa Rica Law School you attended.
As for your last comment about President Trump wanting it to be a Kingship, I won't even entertain such silliness and will allow you to live within your own delusion. I decided long ago that I will not nurture others delusions. Call it tough love Jarod
Full of lies.