does true free speach still exist in the us of a

Umm mostly we are fighting to support our cheap oil guzzling lifestyle.
But that will become somewhat of a moot point when the demand for oil orstrips the supply, which will be soon.
At that point we will have to control the oil fields to support our lifestyle and then other major powers will be wanting to take those oil fields from us....
It is destined to only get worse in the longterm.
Slavery or no slavery.


That's why the plan is an elitist consolidation across nations of their power in a one world fascist government, and locking vast swaths of humanity out of the future. They WANT to do this anyway, so they are keeping us on oil to force the crisis and make people choose.
 
When a person goes out to a war protest rally and gets clubbed for no reason by the police or the police 'overlook' such actions by war supporters

Restrictions on what can or cannot be published on the net

The right to speak ill of the government or government officials

Perhaps I should not have restricted it to free speech but to various constitutional issues...like the 10th amendment

Adopting an attitude of "I’ll restrain you (as an adult) from doing what someone else thinks that you should not do"

Restrictions on political comment by underage people but near adults (16-17 year olds)

Do you want to be protected from doing what someone else thinks is bad by their religious or moral code

Preventing groups of protestors from getting close enough to the politicians whose actions they disapprove of to hear them

Putting people under surveillance and into databases who publically disagree with the current administration’s positions

enough for now?

got to go

1) While I am sure there are cases of over-zealous cops, take a look at the number of times the cops just stand and take the abuse from over-zealous protestors. The latter far outwieghs the former.

2) What exactly cannot be published on the net????

3) Who is curbing your right to speak ill of politicians?

4) Who is restricting comments on politics from kids?

5) You have a right to protest, you do not have a right to do so whereever you choose and you are most certainly not guaranteed to get up in the face of those you want to protest against. They know you are there. But you do not have the right to force them to hear what you want to say.
 
You have more faith in the American people than I.

That is one issue that will snap the American people together faster than anything else. The left will immediately protest and the right would actually lock and load. The military would not follow the politicians on anything so blatantly in violation of our rights. Politicians try something like that and all that happens is you end up with dead polticians.

What the hell do you think them boys up in Idaho have been training for all these decades? :)
 
What the hell do you think them boys up in Idaho have been training for all these decades?
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Protecting their gay senator ?
 
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Side note desh... I got my passport in just under 7 weeks.

my wife and i got our passports last year - just in case and because we wanted to go to europe

try and remember that with the right (wrong) propaganda and sufficent fear along with scapegoats, governments can do most anything

our two sons are past the draft age but we have two grandsons...and two granddaughters (they may amend the draft act to include women)
 
1) While I am sure there are cases of over-zealous cops, take a look at the number of times the cops just stand and take the abuse from over-zealous protestors. The latter far outwieghs the former.

2) What exactly cannot be published on the net????

3) Who is curbing your right to speak ill of politicians?

4) Who is restricting comments on politics from kids?

5) You have a right to protest, you do not have a right to do so whereever you choose and you are most certainly not guaranteed to get up in the face of those you want to protest against. They know you are there. But you do not have the right to force them to hear what you want to say.


sf

do you remember the shit they pulled on the vietnam protestors and are pulling on the iraq war protestors (except now they video tape protestors - i live in santa barbara county, ca - on of the more right wing parts of the nation)

check the news where editors of student newpapers have been told by their principals what they may not include - display of campaign material on campus or within sight of campus

ALL of your electronic communications are subject to monitoring

how to use simple items from your local supermarket, hardware store or hobby shop to make bombs or poison gases or simple land mines

or have you noticed that the spy satellites have improved to a great extent (even the commercial ones can show a lot)

how to live off of the grid

how to stay out of government databases

like how much money you can transfer without the financial institution being required to inform the government of the transfer

countermeasures that will prevent the government looking into your rooms without a warrant

things like 'backscatter' scanners or high resolution infrared recorders or scanners

yes, we live in a goldfish bowl, but there are ways to confound the government spying

the supremes have rulled that students under the age of 18 do not have most (if any) constitutional rights

but it is all for your own good in the name of national security...
 
my wife and i got our passports last year - just in case and because we wanted to go to europe

try and remember that with the right (wrong) propaganda and sufficent fear along with scapegoats, governments can do most anything

our two sons are past the draft age but we have two grandsons...and two granddaughters (they may amend the draft act to include women)
If they start the draft they should include women.
Of course that would create another baby boom which could be good to have the young paying into SS in 20 years....Pyrimid is getting a bit topheavy.
 
If they start the draft they should include women.
Of course that would create another baby boom which could be good to have the young paying into SS in 20 years....Pyrimid is getting a bit topheavy.

usc

true, but do you want your wife qualified in firearms, martial arts and knives...
 
If they start the draft they should include women.
Of course that would create another baby boom which could be good to have the young paying into SS in 20 years....Pyrimid is getting a bit topheavy.

Im not sure that "every war creates a baby boom" is a reliable function.
 
usc

true, but do you want your wife qualified in firearms, martial arts and knives...

Don't have a wife, got rid of her last year.

I am not going to get another one unless I get along with her well enough to trust her with guns and knives :)
 
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