Double Mormon Ticket...

Superfreak said:
lol... nice try Jarod... let me guess, you see other liberals try the whole 'oh, you are angry' line of bullshit and you thought you would try it here?

LMAO... I am laughing at your stupidity Jarod. You continue to pretend as if this is simply a disagreement of opinion when it is not. You are blatantly ignoring the facts. You are blatantly lying about them. Now you wish to once again pretend it is simply a difference of opinion.

Fact: Rubio did not commit fraud
Fact: Rubio did not lie about his family, he retold the story he was told.

Fact: You have continued to lie about the above despite your own links showing that you are wrong

No opinions there Jarod. Those are all facts. Ones that you cannot dispute, which is why you desperately tried the whole 'oh you so angry' line. Fucking retard.
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You are turning into Dixie, you cant respond logically to an argument so you just start calling everyone names and run from any logical discussion.
 
Jarod said:
The last word on this should be from you and it should go something like this...

"I am sorry I did not give you the benefit of the doubt, bigot is a strong word and should not be thrown about lightly. While I belive you were wrong about the Mormon Church that does not make you a bigot or a liar."

Until then I intend to continue bringing it up, I dont like to just let go of unjustice. I dont like the gratitous use of strong words like "bigot" and "liar" coming from people I generally respect. I belive it waters down the true insult that is bigot and liar. It is important to disagree and hash out our political differences, it is also important to call people out when you belive them to be wrong. It is harmfull to sling names at people while doing this and it is harmfull to the debate to use these terms lightly. The discorse in important, but to allow yourself to stoop to petty name calling because you dont like someone's point is shamefull.
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That'll never happen. Damo and SF are proved wrong quite often but will never, ever, admit it or apologize, or do anything other than continue to scream their false claims louder. They're two peas in a pod and I have no idea why Damo calling you a bigot would bother you. Damo is a very dishonest debater and he works in tandem with SF. I wouldn't pay any attention to anything either of them said about you. If you think anyone other than their very own peanut gallery consisting of Yurt and Bravo is paying any attention to them, you're wrong.
 
Jarod said:
You are turning into Dixie, you cant respond logically to an argument so you just start calling everyone names and run from any logical discussion.
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Jarod... again... you continue posting the above type nonsense despite the fact that I have debunked the two claims you linked to. I did so using your own friggin links. You then continue to ignore that and post the above type of nonsense. That is why I am calling you a liar and a fucking retard. If you wish to actually discuss the issue JAROD... then fucking discuss what I post instead of continuing to pretend it isn't there.

FACT: Rubio did not commit fraud. They investigated it in 2010. He was not charged with any wrong doing.

FACT: Rubio did not lie about his family as you claimed. He repeated the story told to him by his family. That is clear from the link you provided.

FACT: You have still not provided any evidence to back up the claim that someone paid his mortgage.



So again Jarod.... can you dispute any of the above or are you going to continue to run away?
 
Darla said:
That'll never happen. Damo and SF are proved wrong quite often but will never, ever, admit it or apologize, or do anything other than continue to scream their false claims louder. They're two peas in a pod and I have no idea why Damo calling you a bigot would bother you. Damo is a very dishonest debater and he works in tandem with SF. I wouldn't pay any attention to anything either of them said about you. If you think anyone other than their very own peanut gallery consisting of Yurt and Bravo is paying any attention to them, you're wrong.
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LMAO... so I assume if I return to the thread where I proved you were wrong, I will find that you admitted it? and apologized for it?

Is that what I will find Darla? Didn't think so.
 
Darla said:
That'll never happen. Damo and SF are proved wrong quite often but will never, ever, admit it or apologize, or do anything other than continue to scream their false claims louder. They're two peas in a pod and I have no idea why Damo calling you a bigot would bother you. Damo is a very dishonest debater and he works in tandem with SF. I wouldn't pay any attention to anything either of them said about you. If you think anyone other than their very own peanut gallery consisting of Yurt and Bravo is paying any attention to them, you're wrong.
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What is truly funny is that Jarod is the one that refuses to apologize for being wrong and for making false claims... yet here you are defending his stupidity.
 
Darla said:
That'll never happen. Damo and SF are proved wrong quite often but will never, ever, admit it or apologize, or do anything other than continue to scream their false claims louder. They're two peas in a pod and I have no idea why Damo calling you a bigot would bother you. Damo is a very dishonest debater and he works in tandem with SF. I wouldn't pay any attention to anything either of them said about you. If you think anyone other than their very own peanut gallery consisting of Yurt and Bravo is paying any attention to them, you're wrong.
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I used to believe they were the same person, Damo simply pretending to be the smarter and more dignified one. Now I believe they are two different people, but Damo has become much less logical and much more emotional and partisin.
 
Jarod said:
In your mind you proved something... But you've proven absolutely nothing.
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Jarod, it is quite clear for everyone to see that you lied about Rubio. None of the accusations you put forth are true. Your own links proved that.

Which is why you cannot answer any of the questions put to you and instead we get the above post from you...

1) Was he charged with fraud after the 2010 investigation Jarod? YES or NO?

2) Did he 'lie' about his family history Jarod? YES or NO?

3) Are you ever going to link us to your third claim that someone paid his mortgage for him? (for now I will just assume you are lying yet again)
 
The Dude said:
Lol Damo is a hipster Buddhist, not sure freak ever plays the pagan religious card. Jarod lives on weak sauce.
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The really sad thing is that Jarod thinks he is being clever. He is either one of the dumbest people on the planet or he is smoking some really good shit.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
He is pretty right wing for a Buddhist, I don't see much peace and love emanating from him these days. He needs to check his karma in for repair!!
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Like most American Buddhist, he's an upper middle class berkenstock wearing Mercedes driving recent convert. He believes he gets cool points for the conversion.
 
The Dude said:
Like most American Buddhist, he's an upper middle class berkenstock wearing Mercedes driving recent convert. He believes he gets cool points for the conversion.
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Actually I have been a Buddhist for more than half of my life. I converted from Atheism while I was in the Navy. It really wasn't much of a conversion.

Anyway, I grew up in one of the mega-churches. Yeah, one like you see in those leftist hit pieces. Sometime around 9 or 10 I told my mother I didn't believe. I've told that story before. I was an angry Atheist.. It took years to get over the anger and find a small part of peace. At the time I was volunteering in the psych ward of Bethesda and met a dude who was dying of AIDS who had converted to Buddhism. We spoke quite a bit about the philosophy, it fit naturally with my own. It didn't take much conversion.

I am what I am.

The assumption that Buddhists are a one cell organism and all believe that government solutions to every problem is the only way to go is where Tom gets a bit off. Where you get a bit off is assuming that my "conversion" to Buddhism was in any way like yours to a belief in Jah which seems to be a jump to an excuse to live in an altered state of mind.

There is a difference in how I apply my beliefs to my life. I believe the precepts are applied personally, not through government and never forced. Unlike people who believe that government is the only path to help others, many Buddhists share this experience of personal action over governmental force of action.
 
Damocles said:
Actually I have been a Buddhist for more than half of my life. I converted from Atheism while I was in the Navy. It really wasn't much of a conversion.

Anyway, I grew up in one of the mega-churches. Yeah, one like you see in those leftist hit pieces. Sometime around 9 or 10 I told my mother I didn't believe. I've told that story before. I was an angry Atheist.. It took years to get over the anger and find a small part of peace. At the time I was volunteering in the psych ward of Bethesda and met a dude who was dying of AIDS who had converted to Buddhism. We spoke quite a bit about the philosophy, it fit naturally with my own. It didn't take much conversion.

I am what I am.
The assumption that Buddhists are a one cell organism and all believe that government solutions to every problem is the only way to go is where Tom gets a bit off. Where you get a bit off is assuming that my "conversion" to Buddhism was in any way like yours to a belief in Jah which seems to be a jump to an excuse to live in an altered state of mind.

There is a difference in how I apply my beliefs to my life. I believe the precepts are applied personally, not through government and never forced. Unlike people who believe that government is the only path to help others, many Buddhists share this experience of personal action over governmental force of action.
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Yeah, half your life non buhdist is recent to me. You are upper middle class, gloss over the fine car you drive.
You think the non violence of buhdist is cool as do I. You don't like the non materialistic part much.
And you arent smart enough to see I'm mocking religion in general with the rasta gig.
 
The Dude said:
Yeah, half your life non buhdist is recent to me. You are upper middle class, gloss over the fine car you drive.
You think the non violence of buhdist is cool as do I. You don't like the non materialistic part much.
And you arent smart enough to see I'm mocking religion in general with the rasta gig.
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What fine car do I drive?
 
The Dude said:
You tell me, do you denounce materialism like true buhdist?
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You are confusing somebody who takes the yellow robe with every Buddhist. This is like asking somebody who is a Catholic if they took a vow of poverty like a "true Catholic".

There is nothing inherently wrong with having money, it is the reason you want it that would drive whether or not my life is within the precepts of Buddhism. Like Christianity where it is the "love of money" that is the "root of evil", having money itself is not against Buddhism.

Tell me again what great car I drive.

My pickup, needed to haul horses and hay, has more than 100K miles on it and doesn't have heated seats. Tell me about your car.
 
Damocles said:
You are confusing somebody who takes the yellow robe with every Buddhist. This is like asking somebody who is a Catholic if they took a vow of poverty like a "true Catholic".

There is nothing inherently wrong with having money, it is the reason you want it that would drive whether or not my life is within the precepts of Buddhism. Like Christianity where it is the "love of money" that is the "root of evil", having money itself is not against Buddhism.

Tell me again what great car I drive.

My pickup, needed to haul horses and hay, has more than 100K miles on it and doesn't have heated seats. Tell me about your car.
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Just as I would have predicted, just like Catholics pic and choose what parts they like.
I mock all religion, it's not personal!
 
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