Election deniers have done more damage to America than anyone else

BartenderElite said:
The Lindells, Lakes & Trumps of the world have set this precious republic back immeasurably.

There are millions now who will never trust a result unless their candidate wins. Think about that. If there are several pillars that represent the foundation of what we have, election integrity is one of them, and probably the most important. Without it, we can fall apart, very easily.

I'm sure someone will post a quote from Hillary or Gore - but both candidates conceded their losses. And neither came close to a fraction of the constant drumbeat we have heard from the deniers on the right since 2020.

Just to remind everyone: the Big Lie started because a narcissist who literally cannot accept losing - in any area of life - refused, not surprisingly, to accept his loss, and told everyone the election was rigged. He also said there was "massive fraud" in 2016, only because he lost the popular vote. He also called 2012 a sham.

And for anyone who believes there was a massive conspiracy: there would have to have been operatives and people in the know in at least 6 states, dozens of counties, and hundreds of precincts. I believe it was Ben Franklin who said that 3 people can keep a secret - if 2 of them are dead.
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I thought you were talking about all you lefties screeching for four years that Trump stole the election from Hillary Clinton.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
There are always people that question election results.

It is a right to question such things, do you want to take that away from the American people?
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People are always free to lie. It is when a large number of people believe that lie and are willing to attack the nation's Capitol and assault police officers that the liar who instigated that violence should be ashamed; especially since he violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.
 
Flash said:
People are always free to lie. It is when a large number of people believe that lie and are willing to attack the nation's Capitol and assault police officers that the liar who instigated that violence should be ashamed; especially since he violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.
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Trump told them to be peaceful, he didn't instigate anything.

The organizers had already planned this without Trumps knowledge, this has been proven in court.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Trump told them to be peaceful, he didn't instigate anything.

The organizers had already planned this without Trumps knowledge, this has been proven in court.
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He instigated the lie about election fraud and lied about that fraud. He called his supporters to attend the rally on January 6. If his supporters did not believe that lie they would not have been at the rally and attacked the Capitol.

He also said "We fight like hell. And, if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."
 
Flash said:
He instigated the lie about election fraud and lied about that fraud. He called his supporters to attend the rally on January 6. If his supporters did not believe that lie they would not have been at the rally and attacked the Capitol.

He also said "We fight like hell. And, if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."
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The coach on my badminton team in high school told us to fight like hell also.

We didn't kill the other team lol.

And it wasn't a lie when he filed the charges, that was up for the courts to decide which they did.

Have you wondered why no charges have been filed against him for this?

Because every prosecutor in the nation knows he didn't do what you are accusing him of.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
The coach on my badminton team in high school told us to fight like hell also.

We didn't kill the other team lol.

And it wasn't a lie when he filed the charges, that was up for the courts to decide which they did.

Have you wondered why no charges have been filed against him for this?

Because every prosecutor in the nation knows he didn't do what you are accusing him of.
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Trump didn't file any charges...
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if you think that THIS particular moment in history is the one event that did the most damage to America, you must be a teenager.

go back down to mommas basement and start researching the last 100 years of American history NOT provided by the government or mainstream media mouthpiece.
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Well said, sadly he is a middle aged man who doesn't know any history and lives in a bubble.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
He hasn't been convicted of any of that.

Are you saying some Americans are guilty before having a trial?
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Of course. He was taped doing it. It is proof, You can certainly say Trump tried to get the election results thrown out and he declared the winner. The crime is obvious. When he goes to court, he cannot win. It is like a mass shooter on video. Was he guilty? yeah, you can say so. The court case is just a formality. The shooter cannot escape the video and Trump cannot escape his public crimes. Innocent to proven guilty is a mantra. Often it is not true. Remember when Nixon declared Manson was guilty of murder? It happens. Sometimes crimes are so obvious, that we all know what the court case will end up saying.
 
Nordberg said:
Of course. He was taped doing it. It is proof, You can certainly say Trump tried to get the election results thrown out and he declared the winner. The crime is obvious. When he goes to court, he cannot win. It is like a mass shooter on video. Was he guilty? yeah, you can say so. The court case is just a formality. The shooter cannot escape the video and Trump cannot escape his public crimes. Innocent to proven guilty is a mantra. Often it is not true. Remember when Nixon declared Manson was guilty of murder? It happens. Sometimes crimes are so obvious, that we all know what the court case will end up saying.
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Then prosecute him, what are you waiting for?
 
BartenderElite said:
The Lindells, Lakes & Trumps of the world have set this precious republic back immeasurably.

There are millions now who will never trust a result unless their candidate wins. Think about that. If there are several pillars that represent the foundation of what we have, election integrity is one of them, and probably the most important. Without it, we can fall apart, very easily.

I'm sure someone will post a quote from Hillary or Gore - but both candidates conceded their losses. And neither came close to a fraction of the constant drumbeat we have heard from the deniers on the right since 2020.

Just to remind everyone: the Big Lie started because a narcissist who literally cannot accept losing - in any area of life - refused, not surprisingly, to accept his loss, and told everyone the election was rigged. He also said there was "massive fraud" in 2016, only because he lost the popular vote. He also called 2012 a sham.

And for anyone who believes there was a massive conspiracy: there would have to have been operatives and people in the know in at least 6 states, dozens of counties, and hundreds of precincts. I believe it was Ben Franklin who said that 3 people can keep a secret - if 2 of them are dead.
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Every time you screech "big lie" the more suspicious rational people become. What I love though is you actually seem to think fucking up kids heads with fantasies of changing genders is NOT dangerous for America. Youre a hall of fame imbecile.
 
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