eliminate the debt limit?

[Magats_Love_NHB]

So my assessment is correct, i.e. that this thread is not really to ask about the debt ceiling but is just another thread for America-HATERS to bash those who want to make America great again.

I get it.

Oh boo hoo! You don't like the thread. Fuck your feelings snowflake.

 

[Into the Night]

Except in the graphic I showed you, EVERY GOP PRESIDENT ran up the debt HIGHER than the nearest DEM pres. They ALWAYS do.

The President does not add to the debt. Congress does.

So you are just IGNORING the data?

What 'data'???

Yeah? So? Why does that bother you? Given that you ENJOY all the benefits the Left has gifted this nation from improved health and safety of workers,

...such as?

5 day work week, vacations, medicare, social security. ALL OF IT.

Medicate is not health and safety. Social security is not health and safety. Vacations are not given by Democrats. The work schedule is not given by Democrats.

So why are you pissed that welfare programs for poor people come out of the same paycheck you GLADLY give up for our massive bloated military?

You hate the poor. You hate the military too.

(EVEN THE MILITARY is socialist! TriCare is socialism 101! No matter how good I was at my job, I don't get any bennies from an employer when I LEAVE THE JOB. Socialism. Getting stuff from OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.)

Not socialism at all. Every business makes it's profit from other people's money.

You talk such a big game but it is clear you really don't have to function as an adult in the real world. You seem to have no real sense of what you are bitching about. Given how much you will DEPEND on it at some point in your life.




Correction: CONSUMERS DEMAND rules and regulations to ensure products are SAFE and that they can raise their kids in an environment that won't end up with the kids dying of some horrific cancer due to industrial pollution.

YOU DEMAND THOSE REGULATIONS. YOU. We all do.

So stop with this stupid "Government puts too many regulations in!"




You seem to know SO LITTLE about how corporations function. Are you like 12 or something?



IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.




You are a certified moron.

 

[Into the Night]

Except in the graphic I showed you, EVERY GOP PRESIDENT ran up the debt HIGHER than the nearest DEM pres. They ALWAYS do.

Presidents don't add to any debt. CONGRESS DOES.

You talk such a big game but it is clear you really don't have to function as an adult in the real world.

All adults function as an adult in the real world...by definition. Go learn English.

You seem to have no real sense of what you are bitching about. Given how much you will DEPEND on it at some point in your life.

Depend on what, Dimlight? Void argument fallacy.

Correction: CONSUMERS DEMAND rules and regulations to ensure products are SAFE and that they can raise their kids in an environment that won't end up with the kids dying of some horrific cancer due to industrial pollution.

What 'industrial pollution', Dimlight??? Void argument fallacy.

YOU DEMAND THOSE REGULATIONS. YOU. We all do.

What regulations, Dimlight??? Void argument fallacy.

So stop with this stupid "Government puts too many regulations in!"

It does.

You seem to know SO LITTLE about how corporations function. Are you like 12 or something?

Random phrase. No apparent coherency.

IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

Who said it did?

You are a certified moron.

....annnnnnd your usual insult fallacies. Lame.

 

[Into the Night]

Oh boo hoo! You don't like the thread. Fuck your feelings snowflake.

Nope. That's now about the so-called 'debt limit' either.

 

[Into the Night]

He is a super Trumper and far-right conspiracy nut.

There is no such thing as a 'far rght', Sybil. The Democrat party is a conspiracy, and they are definitely nuts.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah. It's the standard on the Right. Oh for decades we've had to hear hard-core Republicans who back every single GOP initiative and excoriate the Dems tell people "I'm a INDUHPENDUNT! I think for myself! I'm NOT a Republican!"

Now these MAGAts are going to run like cockroaches under the fridge anytime someone points out that Trump is a piece of human garbage.

None of them are "man enough" to own their own actions. They are all betas for Trump. Mouth is talking points the livelong day. Until someone pushes back at which point they have NOTHING TO DO WITH MAGA.

I happily support MAGA. I happily voted for Trump. I am a capitalist. I am a conservative. I support the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

YOU support Democrats. YOU support Kamala (who couldn't even come up with a campaign platform! ). You deny and discard the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions. You are functionally illiterate, unable to read and understand the English language, mathematics, science, logic, or philosophy.

You are your own problem, Dimlight.

 

[Tbird19482]

I happily support MAGA. I happily voted for Trump. I am a capitalist. I am a conservative. I support the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

YOU support Democrats. YOU support Kamala (who couldn't even come up with a campaign platform! ). You deny and discard the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions. You are functionally illiterate, unable to read and understand the English language, mathematics, science, logic, or philosophy.

You are your own problem, Dimlight.

this is one of your BIGGEST LIES YET.
I support the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.
Why don't you leave and come back when you start telling the truth for ONCE?

 

[ExpressLane]

I’m sure, trump is playing 3D chess, you say that every time he fucks up.

Don't look now but the Dems are in check.

 

[Into the Night]

this is one of your BIGGEST LIES YET.
I support the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.
Why don't you leave and come back when you start telling the truth for ONCE?

You can't blame your problem on me or anybody else, Tball.

 

[Into the Night]

Don't look now but the Dems are in check.

Mate. The game is over. They lost.

 

[AProudLefty]

Mate. The game is over. They lost.

You wish.

 

[IBDaMann]

Giving the federal government no limit on spending is like giving a 16-year-old girl a credit card with no limit...

You too have fallen victim to the illusion created by the Uniparty. The Federal government has no limit on spending. Congress can raise or lower or eliminate the debt ceiling as it wishes.

What Donald Trump is trying to explain to We the People is that we are all being fooled by the Uniparty. The establishment politicians have created a contrivance called the "debt ceiling" to give the mostly ignorant masses the illusion that Congress is prudently acting under strict fiscal responsibility and financial restraint ... all the while Congress is hedonistically overspending on prohibitively expensive pork, graft and patronage corruption with reckless abandon. Donald Trump would like to remind We the People that the "debt ceiling" was contrived in 1917 and established at $11.5 billion, and then altered 78 times thereafter, to the last "limit" of $31.4 TRILLION before Congress suspended it entirely until 2025. We the People never understand anything about what is actually occurring with US overspending, but instead are content to relegating ourselves to discussing irrelevancies about the contrivance of the "debt ceiling" and what we all mistakenly believe it to mean.

Trump is simply pointing out that We the People aren't doing ourselves any favors by deluding ourselves in this manner. It is not any "debt ceiling" that protects us in any way, but rather eliminating the overspending, pork, graft and patronage corruption about which We the People never speak up. Eliminating the "debt ceiling" would be the best "red pill" wake-up call for We the People, along with allowing the Federal government to shut down and to see just how well we get along without it.

In short, yes, eliminate the illusory "debt ceiling" and, more importantly, eliminate the overspending, rather than permit the continued overspending under the illusory protection of some contrivance intended to fool us.

The other part of what Donald Trump is trying to explain is that as long as We the People allow ourselves mentally to believe that the contrived "debt ceiling" is somehow affording us some sort of protection, Congress will be able to thwart the bureaucratic protections against such tyranny as intended by the founders, by using the "debt ceiling" as a cudgel by whomever happens to be in power at the moment to compel the forces that would impose fiscal responsibility to instead accede to calls for increased overspending. Minority concerns can be batted to the side by simple appeals to a fearful We the People who will panic at any and all "threats" to the "debt ceiling." Trump is trying to free us all from the psychological warfare and manipulation by urging us all individually to dispel the illusion in our own minds.

Yes, eliminate the debt ceiling today. Eliminate the overspending an hour later.

 

[Tbird19482]

You can't blame your problem on me or anybody else, Tball.

When YOU learn to tell the truth for ONCE come back and talk
You lying POS.

 

[IBDaMann]

Oh boo hoo!

So, that's a yes, i.e. my assessment was correct about this thread, and that you are just one among the mindless America-HATING collective. I appreciate your response, but I was hoping that you could manage to be a little more honest and forthright. Oh well, you can work on that.

You don't like the thread.

It's not one of my preferred threads, so no.

Fuck your feelings snowflake.

I realize you don't appreciate me barging into your safe space but I just wanted to see how the weather is in here. Your going to have to get some truth sealant (i.e. censors) in a few places to keep reality from seeping in.

 

[IBDaMann]

When YOU learn to tell the truth for ONCE come back and talk
You lying POS.

When YOU learn to tell the truth for ONCE come back and talk You lying POS.

 

[IBDaMann]

Did you not read the rest of the post? Was it too long for you limited attention span?

It would have been much more efficient and quick to just admit that you are in no position to have used that metaphor.

 

[Daylight63]

It would have been much more efficient and quick to just admit that you are in no position to have used that metaphor.

 

[Daylight63]

I happily support MAGA. I happily voted for Trump. I am a capitalist. I am a conservative. I support the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

YOU support Democrats. YOU support Kamala (who couldn't even come up with a campaign platform! ). You deny and discard the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions. You are functionally illiterate, unable to read and understand the English language, mathematics, science, logic, or philosophy.

You are your own problem, Dimlight.

 

[Tbird19482]

When YOU learn to tell the truth for ONCE come back and talk You lying POS.

Well here it is YOU ARE A LYING POS
GO FUCK YOURSELF you fucking ASSHOLE.

 

[IBDaMann]

[abject insecurity deleted]

A rational adult would have found it much easier to not even respond.