EPA moves to suspend more employees who signed letter of dissent against Trump admin policies

[Into the Night]

You're turning more and more into a simpleminded imbecile.

Which is impressive for him. He always was a simpleminded imbecile. Now he just posts random phrases by rolling the dice much of the time.

 

[Into the Night]

Try to stay on topic, cocksucker. This is about federal employee intimidation.

Nope. It's about firing people that revolt against their boss, revolt against the Constitution of the United States, and revolt against the people of the United States.

Fucking cultist moron.

Inversion fallacy. Democrats are a cult.

 

[Into the Night]

They are educated professionals doing their jobs.

Revolt is not their job.

Trump is an idiot blustering around. Trump has his stupidity infecting all agencies. You see Trump as king and all he says must be followed. He is wrong and doing real damage.

To The Swamp and to Democrats, yes.

Excellent work, Trump!

 

[Into the Night]

It was and when Congress investigated, the EPA tried first to deny it, then stonewalled. Well, it looks like the lights came on and the cockroaches are scurrying for cover now.

There is a new pest control master in town now!

 

[Into the Night]

That's for the person answering my question to do.

Agreed. Somehow, they never can seem to do it! It's a running gag with the Church of Green. I bring it up here because you mentioned it. I should've also mentioned that the burden is on them.

The usual answer I get from the Left on How much pollution should we allow? is, "None!" Of course, that answer is all at once, naïve, impossible to achieve, and insane, but it's usually the one they give.

And of course they still can't define what the 'pollution' is or what it is 'polluting'.

 

[Into the Night]

Radical leftys are 99 percent of the environmental professionals. They have education and experience in the field.

This part is true. The Church of Green has professional priests, just like other Democrat religions.

Democrats inserts people with ultra-radical incorrect beliefs not backed with a scintilla of evidence.
They know nothing of the field, but are there to destroy environmentalism from the inside.

FTFY

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And of course they still can't define what the 'pollution' is or what it is 'polluting'.

It doesn't matter what they claim as pollution. I want them to tell me how much of that we should allow.

What they do is the opposite of that. For example, arsenic in drinking water. Until the late 1990's the US standard was 25 ppb. Then, during the Clinton administration it was lowered to 10 ppb and the reason for that was no scientific justification but rather that there was now test equipment that could measure that miniscule an amount of something in a sample. That's it. That was the reason.

This isn't free, and lowering that standard meant people often had to pay hundreds more dollars a year for their drinking water because of that change. 25 ppb was so low it'd take a lifetime of drinking water with that level in it to possibly have some major health effect.

The USEPA estimated in 2001 that the annual cost to reduce arsenic concentrations to below the MCL would range from $0.86 to $32 per household for customers of large public water systems (more than 10,000 people) to $165 to $327 per household for very small systems (25–500 people). Understanding the factors that affect concentrations of arsenic and other contaminants with geologic sources in groundwater can help water suppliers prioritize areas for new groundwater development and reduce treatment costs.

Arsenic and Drinking Water

Arsenic is a naturally occurring element, but long-term exposure can cause cancer in people. There has been a substantial amount of research done to address arsenic in groundwater and drinking-water supplies around the country. The USGS studies local and national sources of arsenic to help...

www.usgs.gov

Now, "scientists" are calling for the standard to be lowered to zero (0). That's that "Zero tolerance" thing I was talking about.

Reducing Tap Water Contaminants Like Arsenic May Prevent Over 50,000 Cancer Cases

Drinking water treatment that pursues a multi-contaminant approach, tackling several pollutants at once, could prevent more than 50,000 lifetime cancer cases in the US, finds a new peer-reviewed study by the Environmental Working Group.

www.technologynetworks.com

Now, if the chattering class gets their way on this, the cost of drinking water will rise again and possibly become unaffordable to many people for no health benefits. The "scientists" who pushed that standard, having got it, will now move on to some other pollutant and push for zero tolerance of it to justify their paychecks.

Zero tolerance isn't about health benefits or benefiting people. It is about money and politics and benefiting those wanting zero tolerance standards. That's what makes the EPA dangerous.

 

[Trumpet]

You're so full of shit, are your eyes brown?

The Lord of Cretins is here to cleanse the world of all evil.

 

[Trumpet]

You're turning more and more into a simpleminded imbecile.

That has happened to you years ago, sorry to have to say.

 

[Lionfish]

That's really petty, this administration can't handle criticism or dissent?!!

The Environmental Protection Agency has moved to suspend more than 100 staffers who signed a letter of dissent against the Trump administration’s policies in July, a representative of the union covering the agency’s staff told CNN on Friday.

The EPA previously moved to fire a handful of employees late last week, but now it is taking disciplinary action against more than 130 employees also suspected of signing the letter, the representative said. These employees were sent letters indicating they would be suspended for 14 days without pay.

The reason cited in the letters is for “conduct unbecoming of a federal employee,” the representative said, noting that is highly unusual, if not unprecedented, under the circumstances.

An EPA spokesperson would not confirm the report or details, saying the agency “does not comment on individual personnel matters.”

“These workers bravely voiced concerns about harmful changes at the Agency that threaten the lives of every American. And we know the administration’s motives are not about government efficiency or advancing public safety. Placing these workers on leave and now firing or suspending them months later has wasted over 47,000 work hours and $2 million. This is simply about squashing dissent and preventing workers from protecting American lives,” said Justin Chen, president of the union group AFGE Council 238, in a statement Friday.

The EPA placed roughly 140 employees on administrative leave in July, days after they signed a public letter expressing concern about the treatment of federal employees and the Trump administration’s regulations on climate and public health. In the letter, employees criticized the EPA, saying it has strayed from its core mission to protect human health and the environment.

The EPA conducted an “administrative investigation” into the employees, who were placed on administrative leave until July 17, according to internal emails viewed by CNN at the time. Some employees were let go last week, but additional staff members were affected on Thursday.

On Friday, the agency’s spokesperson also repeated its previous statement on the matter, saying the EPA “has a zero-tolerance policy for career officials using their agency position and title to unlawfully undermine, sabotage, and undercut the will of the American public that was clearly expressed at the ballot box last November. Thankfully, this represents a small fraction of the thousands of hard-working, dedicated EPA employees who are not trying to mislead and scare the American public.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/climate/trump-epa-suspend-employees-dissent-letter

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Fuck you asshole. You supported the assassination of your president so, fuck you!

 

[AProudLefty]

Roll them dice!

Random post.

 

[Into the Night]

It doesn't matter what they claim as pollution.

It does, or there is no argument. A void argument is a fallacy.

I want them to tell me how much of that we should allow.

Since they can't answer what the 'pollution' is, or what it is 'polluting', they can't answer your question (which seems to be your point in asking it!).

What they do is the opposite of that. For example, arsenic in drinking water. Until the late 1990's the US standard was 25 ppb. Then, during the Clinton administration it was lowered to 10 ppb and the reason for that was no scientific justification but rather that there was now test equipment that could measure that miniscule an amount of something in a sample. That's it. That was the reason.

Quite right. It's the old 'any dose is an overdose' mentality.

This isn't free, and lowering that standard meant people often had to pay hundreds more dollars a year for their drinking water because of that change. 25 ppb was so low it'd take a lifetime of drinking water with that level in it to possibly have some major health effect.

They don't seem to understand 'ppb' was 'billionths'.

The USEPA estimated in 2001 that the annual cost to reduce arsenic concentrations to below the MCL would range from $0.86 to $32 per household for customers of large public water systems (more than 10,000 people) to $165 to $327 per household for very small systems (25–500 people). Understanding the factors that affect concentrations of arsenic and other contaminants with geologic sources in groundwater can help water suppliers prioritize areas for new groundwater development and reduce treatment costs.

Arsenic and Drinking Water

Arsenic is a naturally occurring element, but long-term exposure can cause cancer in people. There has been a substantial amount of research done to address arsenic in groundwater and drinking-water supplies around the country. The USGS studies local and national sources of arsenic to help...

www.usgs.gov

Now, "scientists" are calling for the standard to be lowered to zero (0). That's that "Zero tolerance" thing I was talking about.

Yup. Like I said....the old 'any dose is an overdose' mentality.

Reducing Tap Water Contaminants Like Arsenic May Prevent Over 50,000 Cancer Cases

Drinking water treatment that pursues a multi-contaminant approach, tackling several pollutants at once, could prevent more than 50,000 lifetime cancer cases in the US, finds a new peer-reviewed study by the Environmental Working Group.

www.technologynetworks.com

Now, if the chattering class gets their way on this, the cost of drinking water will rise again and possibly become unaffordable to many people for no health benefits. The "scientists" who pushed that standard, having got it, will now move on to some other pollutant and push for zero tolerance of it to justify their paychecks.

Zero tolerance isn't about health benefits or benefiting people. It is about money and politics and benefiting those wanting zero tolerance standards. That's what makes the EPA dangerous.

Drinking water will become unavailable. Even bottled water.