Evangelicals fume as GOP surrenders in gay marriage wars

Agreed. Sexual conduct and sexual orientation/desire are different things.

That's why it's not gay for all the Insurrectionists to be giving each other handies in prison but it is gay if they do it outside of prison....in another 10-20 years for some of them.

As long as their balls don't make contact.
 
So is homosexuality, some do it because they can't withstand the temptation, and choose to act on their lust! Thanks game set match Wolverine! I tried to tell you this wasn't a gotcha moment, but you are too stupid to shut your pie hole!

Either it's hard wired or it isn't. It's a quite simple concept.
I think Matt wants it both ways.......and there's a term for that. ;)

A lot of latent homosexuals want it both ways. Jus sayin'.
 
I think Matt wants it both ways.......and there's a term for that. ;)

A lot of latent homosexuals want it both ways. Jus sayin'.

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Agreed. "Marriage" is a religious term. What the government does isn't sanctify marriage; they create a legal bond between two people for purposes of survivorship and for parental rights and obligations.

And for the benefits.

I had a great debate with someone about why the gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married the legal way. It wasn't religious I was surprised. It is due to getting the benefits from the government that are already wasted on already married people.

I would counter that with the fact that it costs MORE to divorce and we both know there are millions of divorced parents.
 
The only people who have the ability to choose are the bisexuals.

Hmmmm....if they are attracted to both, equally, that's not a choice. There's a "dark matter" that drives human sexuality desires. IMO, something along the pathway for standard sexual reproduction on the Earth. All fauna and insect life reproduction requires the female fertilization of a male. In an environment of constant life vs death, the traits that survive will follow a pattern.

The point being, the traits are passed along. In such a species, that can only be done one way. After that, who gives shit what two consenting adults...or more, want to do in the privacy of their own little American castles?
 
Hmmmm....if they are attracted to both, equally, that's not a choice. That's there "dark matter" of what drives human sexuality choices. IMO, something along the pathway from the standard sexual reproduction trait on the Earthly evolution chart for all fauna and insect life reproduction requires the female fertilization of a male. In an environment of constant life vs death, the traits that survive will follow a pattern.

The point being, the traits are passed along. In such a species, that can only be done one way. After that, who gives shit what two consenting adults...or more, want to do in the privacy of their own little American castles?

You are correct about bisexuality not being a choice. It's inborn.

My point is they can choose to fuck a woman or a man with no problem.
 
You are correct about bisexuality not being a choice. It's inborn.

My point is they can choose to fuck a woman or a man with no problem.

Inborn, but not necessarily fully genetic. It's like we're born with a lot of switches. As we develop some of those switches are flipped on, some not depending upon external circumstances beyond the control of the individual. Not fully genetic, but not choice either. Developmental has a part too.

BTW, do you think there is a cross-section of homosexual personalities or a grouping?

https://ap.themyersbriggs.com/conte.../MBTI/MBTI_Global_Manual_Tech_Brief_LGBTQ.pdf
CONCLUSION
A sample of English-speaking persons in the United
States who self-identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual,
transgender, or queer participated in MBTI research
and completed the global research version of the
MBTI assessment. The sample was described and its
demographic characteristics summarized. Initial analyses
of the LGBTQ sample’s results demonstrate excellent
internal consistency reliabilities on the MBTI preference
pairs that are consistent with the reliabilities of the global
sample and those of the previous version of the MBTI
assessment (i.e., Form M). Validity was established by
showing correlations between the preference pairs. A
factor analysis was conducted to show the validity of the
measurement of the four constructs of the MBTI model.
While more research is needed, all of these analyses
show that the Global Step I assessment has adequate
reliability and validity and is appropriate for use with the
LGBTQ population in the US.


"While more research is needed" = "I'd really love to earn my doctorate....Please."
 
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Inborn, but not necessarily fully genetic. It's like we're born with a lot of switches. As we develop some of those switches are flipped on, some not depending upon external circumstances beyond the control of the individual. Not fully genetic, but not choice either. Developmental has a part too.

It's always the nature vs. nurture problem.
 
It's always the nature vs. nurture problem.
The variety of distribution seems to fit human norms.

In a Federal Constitutional Republic it all comes down to "not anyone's fucking business but their own" and "everyone is treated the same".
 
It does double their chance of getting a date on a Friday night.

Correct.

IMHO, it's not anyone else's fucking business and all Americans deserve the same rights but also understand why a Christian majority of Americans disagree.

Still, the Constitution rules: we all deserve the same rights. FWIW, Thomas Jefferson said it best:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

As bold as those words were for his time, I have no doubt that Jefferson and Franklin would agree that unalienable rights applied to all human beings.
 
Just like there is no straight gene. By your own logic you had to choose between sucking dick or eating pussy.

No need for a straight gene, you are born straight, then you are tempted and act on it or don't! You are almost as big a moron as lefty, wait maybe more!
 
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