Evangelicals fume as GOP surrenders in gay marriage wars

Wolverine said:
Projection, it's ok to come out of the closet Dutch! Maybe you and lefty can hook up!
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Matt, you're the one claiming sexuality is a choice. APL and myself belief it's a combination of factors not determined by choice.
 
Nordberg said:
Not at all. You have the lust and overcame it. I am asking what it is like. It is obvious you have strong attractions to the same sex. I do not know what that is like, so I asked you.
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Projection I have never experienced that lust. You can come out now, it's ok, being gay is accepted unfortunately!
 
Wolverine said:
No need for a straight gene, you are born straight, then you are tempted and act on it or don't! You are almost as big a moron as lefty, wait maybe more!
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If there's no straight gene and all of what we are comes from our genes including being "born straight" then how come that doesn't apply to gays too?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Matt, you're the one claiming sexuality is a choice. APL and myself belief it's a combination of factors not determined by choice.
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I am claiming it is a choice of whether or not to give in to temptation, it is an unnatural desire brought on by evil! You can drop the Matt B.S I am not Matt nor he I!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
If there's no straight gene and all of what we are comes from our genes including being "born straight" then how come that doesn't apply to gays too?
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Homosexuality is an unnatural desire brought on by temptation, men are wired to be attracted to women, and vice versa!
 
Yet another win for liberals! Choke on it you treasonous, backwards, backwood, hypocritical ant-science hillbilly losers!
 
Wolverine said:
I am claiming it is a choice of whether or not to give in to temptation, it is an unnatural desire brought on by evil! You can drop the Matt B.S I am not Matt nor he I!
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Matt, try to keep up with the conversation. I said there was a difference between action and desire already.
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. Sexual conduct and sexual orientation/desire are different things.

That's why it's not gay for all the Insurrectionists to be giving each other handies in prison but it is gay if they do it outside of prison....in another 10-20 years for some of them.
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I guess my thread proved that within conservatism there still remains a palpable, bible-thumping strain of hostility to same sex marriage even this deep into the 21st century
 
Cypress said:
I guess my thread proved that within conservatism there still remains a palpable, bible-thumping strain of hostility to same sex marriage even this deep into the 21st century
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Yes same sex marriage is deplorable, it is sexual deviancy, Christians should hate sin! That has nothing to do with hating people which we do not!
 
Wolverine said:
Yes same sex marriage is deplorable, it is sexual deviancy, Christians should hate sin!
That has nothing to do with hating people which we do not!
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Good to know you are speaking for a significant portion of the Republican base.

You would be surprised how many conservatives try to claim their party has changed and ditched the intolerance of the past.
 
Governments are concerned with crimes, not sins.

Crimes are defined by social consensus.

Sins are defined by superstitions.

And theocracies, as governments, are abominations.

Wolverine is a fucking idiot, although that's not the only reason for my having him on "ignore."
He's boring as well.
 
Cypress said:
Wolverine said:
Yes same sex marriage is deplorable, it is sexual deviancy, Christians should hate sin! That has nothing to do with hating people which we do not!
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Good to know you are speaking for a significant portion of the Republican base.

You would be surprised how many conservatives try to claim their party has changed and ditched the intolerance of the past.
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Intolerance is a hallmark of authoritarian political parties. IMO, that includes both "modern" Democrats and Republicans.

Matt/Wolverine is a hypocrite, but since I believe he suffers from age-related mental disorders which prevent him from being fully in control of himself and, therefore, not fully accountable for his thoughts, words and deeds.

That said, he regularly lies about others and himself. Ergo, if he's not mentally ill, then he needs to carry out the punishment for his own lies per the Bible.

https://www.currentargus.com/story/life/faith/2017/07/29/do-not-bear-false-witness/517597001/
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” This Commandment is recorded in Exodus 20:19 and Deuteronomy 5:20. It is typically understood as a command not to tell lies. Yet the power and rich meaning of this simple commandment reaches far beyond the simple admonition to tell the truth...Any time we make broad and pejorative statements, we violate God’s commandment. Anytime we share or spread false, incomplete, or distorted information— knowingly or ignorantly — we violate God’s commandment. Anytime we cast condemnation upon whole classes of people we do not know, we violate God’s commandment.
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https://www.openbible.info/topics/punishment_for_lying
Proverbs 19:5
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.

Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Proverbs 19:9 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.

Exodus 20:16
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Proverbs 6:16-19
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

Psalm 5:6
You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.

Proverbs 13:5
The righteous hates falsehood, but the wicked brings shame and disgrace.

Proverbs 26:24
Whoever hates disguises himself with his lips and harbors deceit in his heart;
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Cypress said:
Good to know you are speaking for a significant portion of the Republican base.

You would be surprised how many conservatives try to claim their party has changed and ditched the intolerance of the past.
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The truth is not intolerance cupcake!~ Intolerance, tolerance, diversity, are all simply buzz words used to suppress speech!
 
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