facts VS opinions

Mott the Hoople said:
Uhh....explain that one to me?
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you would have to go back to my original statement that the palestinians throwing rocks at the israelis or firing non-aimed rockets at israel were demonstrating evolution in action - sort of like poking a bear with a sharp stick

i understand the palestinians' frustration, but their retaliation is very likely to shorten their life expectancy

who knows, maybe the politics of the situation will garner them what they want, but i doubt it
 
I swear, DQ, do you spout that "war is evolution in action," line just for the laughs of watching Asshate explode?

I would argue that the Mongol genocide against the Tangut Chinese was not an example of evolution in action, because the Tanguts were a highly advanced and sophisticated culture, while the Mongols were barbarian warriors who contributed absoutely nothing to the world. Sometimes there are simply accidents in warfare, like Waterloo.
 
Threedee said:
I swear, DQ, do you spout that "war is evolution in action," line just for the laughs of watching Asshate explode?

I would argue that the Mongol genocide against the Tangut Chinese was not an example of evolution in action, because the Tanguts were a highly advanced and sophisticated culture, while the Mongols were barbarian warriors who contributed absoutely nothing to the world. Sometimes there are simply accidents in warfare, like Waterloo.
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your mistake is assuming that all evolution results in a positive advancement......
 
Threedee said:
I swear, DQ, do you spout that "war is evolution in action," line just for the laughs of watching Asshate explode?

I would argue that the Mongol genocide against the Tangut Chinese was not an example of evolution in action, because the Tanguts were a highly advanced and sophisticated culture, while the Mongols were barbarian warriors who contributed absoutely nothing to the world. Sometimes there are simply accidents in warfare, like Waterloo.
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the purpose of evolution is survival of the fittest, nature's law not mine

after wwii the u s of a was the fittest nation - by way of proof, we won the war and followed it by allowing our nuclear secrets to be stollen

the biggest problem the race faces is the proliferation of WMDs coupled with overpopulation and fanatics willing to use them

we are about to drown in our own poisons :(

ps yes, i do enjoy ahz's explosions
 
DonQuixote said:
the purpose of evolution is survival of the fittest, nature's law not mine

after wwii the u s of a was the fittest nation - by way of proof, we won the war and followed it by allowing our nuclear secrets to be stollen

the biggest problem the race faces is the proliferation of WMDs coupled with overpopulation and fanatics willing to use them

we are about to drown in our own poisons :(

ps yes, i do enjoy ahz's explosions
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Yeah, but clearly there was nothing fit about the Mongols, since they couldn't maintain their empire after the death of the Khans, and because they never developed any symblance of a well-nourished society. The same is true of the Huns.

The US was a fit nation before WWII. We had pretty well proven our dominance as a power in the years leading up to WWI, and during the 20s, we were the lynchpin of the global economy. No mean feat for a country that had won a minor war in 1898 to officially become a world power, and to have played as small of a role in world affairs as it could get away with.
 
Threedee said:
Yeah, but clearly there was nothing fit about the Mongols, since they couldn't maintain their empire after the death of the Khans, and because they never developed any symblance of a well-nourished society. The same is true of the Huns.

The US was a fit nation before WWII. We had pretty well proven our dominance as a power in the years leading up to WWI, and during the 20s, we were the lynchpin of the global economy. No mean feat for a country that had won a minor war in 1898 to officially become a world power, and to have played as small of a role in world affairs as it could get away with.
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true, but it is still whoever or whatever survives the four horseman
 
DonQuixote said:
true, but it is still whoever or whatever survives the four horseman
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To me, its character and moral fiber that count the most. When the Roman Republic, a bedrock of culture, civilization, and statesmanship, collapsed and became the Roman Empire, it survived for another 500 years, officially.

For all that, it didn't really matter that it survived, and may as well not have survived, since it had already chucked its principles and its national character right out of the window. It really did the world no good at all that it hung on to complete the near millenium of existence.
 
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