Favorite Democrat and favorite Republican presidents in your lifetime.

LurchAddams said:
You'll have to go it "the old fashioned way" - by scrolling though your thread and doing a tally.
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I know. Not much interest so far . 😥 Memorial Day?
Aside: As I said in an earlier post
"I consider myself a Gerald Ford type republican, so rare that I should be a museum piece.
That was back when even Dems were moderate and compromises could be attained."
Clinton did this too.
I'll add that he (Ford) was steady, no drama, we knew where he stood. Nixon did some bad stuff but he also happened to make a great choice not knowing Ford would eventually be president. No coincidence Ford wasn't elected. Seems we tend to nominate and elect some real doozies.
 
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Trump to my surprise, I thought I would answer Reagan for as long as I lived. I have my reasons for each and they're not likely what many might think, but that's another discussion.

Your choice of Gerald Ford as your favorite Republican president in our lifetime caught me off guard for sure. A 25 year House Rep. who landed in the White House without a single vote, stepping up as the first and only appointed VP and then taking over when Nixon jumped ship? From what I know, he mostly kept the lights on before Carter beat him in ’76. Am I overlooking some Ford brilliance? I haven’t dug deep into his record, but he’s the first president I remember as a kid, so there’s a faint nostalgia there. Still, Ford’s a surprise pick I didn’t see coming. Care to share what puts him at the top of your list?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
JFK
NIXON

The Swamp which is my enemy killed JFK, and pushed Nixon out.....which functions as proof of their greatness.
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In JFK's case I can see some reason for it. The guy was really, really, fucking dangerous. We came within seconds--one person's call in the field--of a nuclear war twice in his presidency. If there was any post WW 2 president that could have gotten us into WW 3, JFK tops the list, by far.

Nixon was another seriously ethically challenged president but he wasn't bad for what he did in office. He started the EPA and OSHA which were actually good ideas that have been carried to insane extremes today. We, as a nation, needed them. You had upwards of tens of thousands of industrial deaths a year, and pollution was totally out-of-control with the Cuyahoga River catching fire for example. Today, these agencies squabble over a billionth of a percent of some pollutant or the reduction of injuries due to some cause from tens to one or two in industry.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nixon was another seriously ethically challenged president but he wasn't bad for what he did in office. He started the EPA and OSHA which were actually good ideas that have been carried to insane extremes today.
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So may I ask which specific OSHA regulations and which EPA regs you think are the most onerous. I'll wait.


T. A. Gardner said:
We, as a nation, needed them.
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We still do.

T. A. Gardner said:
You had upwards of tens of thousands of industrial deaths a year, and pollution was totally out-of-control with the Cuyahoga River catching fire for example. Today, these agencies squabble over a billionth of a percent of some pollutant or the reduction of injuries due to some cause from tens to one or two in industry.
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It's always when "small numbers" get involved that you guys who don't have any scientific training start thinking you have a viable opinion on the topic.

Small numbers aren't quite as ineffective as you might think. There's a great example from organic mercury. A highly skilled scientist, Karen Wetterhahn, was working with dimethyl mercury. A couple droplets got on her gloves. The material seeped through and into her skin and killed her.

Dimethyl mercury can be lethal at as low as a couple hundred milligrams. A person weighs approximately 80kg.

You want me to do the math for you?

That works out to be on the order of 0.001% of her body weight necessary to kill her.

How about botulinum toxin: lethat at a couple of NANOGRAMS.


So when you hear small numbers: be thankful you don't have to deal with these things.

As for your "cartoon version" of how toxicology is done, well, let's just say "don't quit your day job"
 
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