FBI Knew Boulder, Colorado, Suspect Identity Prior to Shooting

[Wolverine]

What if they break in when you're not home? After all, most break-ins occur when the homeowner isn't even there.

Then what good is your gun?

No good, because a thief would probably just steal it, since guns are one of the things thieves look for when breaking into a home.

Let's also not gloss over the fact that you are so murder-happy and have so much bloodlust that you fantasize about killing someone for trying to steal something from you. So, let's not ignore the gross overcompensation there, and murderous intent. But what's more likely to happen is that you will mistake a family member or a friend for an intruder, and end up killing or wounding them by accident.

Because let's face it, you're not someone who acts responsibly anyway...you couldn't even wear a mask correctly.

So since y'all had such troubles with the mask, how can we be secure in the knowledge that y'all know what you're doing with your gun?

So don't have a gun to protect yourself, because a thief may steal it when you aren't home, I have a security system, and insurance, I will get another gun.
Bloodlust? Because I want to protect my family, no one mentioned wanting to have my house broken into, you are being obtuse!
I have told you a couple times, I have worn my mask where necessary, so you are just arguing to argue, and insult something I have been avoiding!

 

[Wolverine]

No, it isn't!

It's a fact that a gun in your house makes your house less safe, and society less safe because you're adding to the supply of guns for criminals to steal.




You said you have dogs, a security system, and strong locks...so how are you not able to protect yourself when you've already given three ways that don't involve a gun?

Ok listen not having a gun so a thief can't steal it, is the most insane argument you can have! I drive a car, it could loose a tie rod, and crash into oncoming traffic should I not drive? Thieves steal cars also!

 

[LV426]

So don't have a gun to protect yourself, because a thief may steal it when you aren't home, I have a security system, and insurance, I will get another gun.

You just said you don't need the gun because you have a security system, dogs, and insurance.

So your dogs, security system, and insurance don't protect you? Then why did you spend the money on them?

Bloodlust? Because I want to protect my family, no one mentioned wanting to have my house broken into, you are being obtuse!

You don't want to protect your family, you just want to kill someone.

The best way to protect your family is to not bring a gun into the home.

I have told you a couple times, I have worn my mask where necessary, so you are just arguing to argue, and insult something I have been avoiding!

You say this, but...I somehow don't believe it.

 

[Wolverine]

You just said you don't need the gun because you have a security system, dogs, and insurance.

So your dogs, security system, and insurance don't protect you? Then why did you spend the money on them?




You don't want to protect your family, you just want to kill someone.

The best way to protect your family is to not bring a gun into the home.




You say this, but...I somehow don't believe it.

Peace of mind and I like dogs, mind your own home!
As a Christian man, the last thing I would want to do is take a life, it would be the last line of defense, don't appreciate the insult!
Then don't bring a gun into your home, as for me I will!
Don't care much what you believe, you believe I shouldn't own a firearm because thieves may steal it.

 

[LV426]

Ok listen not having a gun so a thief can't steal it, is the most insane argument you can have!

No, the insanity is thinking that bringing a gun into your home makes you more safe, when it makes you LESS SAFE.

Whenever a gun is brought into the equation, the risk for everyone immediately goes up.

And when that gun is brought into the equation by someone like you, the risk for everyone goes up even higher because we cannot trust you to responsibly wield your weapons, since your intent is to not protect anyone, but rather kill someone.

So the gun is a part of your murder fantasy. You can tell just in the language you use...it's all framed within the context of killing someone. You never say that you shoot to wound, instead you are fantasizing about killing someone in your house.

But the person you're most likely to kill with a gun in your house is yourself.

 

[LV426]

Peace of mind and I like dogs, mind your own home!

The problem is that the gun you keep in your house is one of the items a thief is most likely to steal and then sell to someone who intends to use it to cause harm to themselves or others.

So it is very much MY BUSINESS TOO.

As a Christian man, the last thing I would want to do is take a life, it would be the last line of defense, don't appreciate the insult!

Yet, not once have you ever said you would shoot an intruder to wound, not kill.

Every single post of yours contains the subtext that you view lethal force with your gun as legitimate self-defense.

Right?

Because that's why you have the gun instead of, say, a barbed-wire covered baseball bat, which also can be used in self-defense, but is far less lethal and more incapacitating.

Now you're saying the gun is a last line of defense...well...why not a stun gun instead? Or a taser? Or a big fucking knife?

Then don't bring a gun into your home, as for me I will!

Yeah, but the problem is that the gun can and probably will disappear from your home, and there's a 14% chance you won't even tell the cops if it does.

Don't care much what you believe, you believe I shouldn't own a firearm because thieves may steal it.

That's one of the reasons...another reason is because I don't believe you are responsible enough to wield one.

 

[LV426]

I drive a car, it could loose a tie rod, and crash into oncoming traffic should I not drive? Thieves steal cars also!

OK, but for a car:

-> You need a license that you also must renew
-> You need to pass multiple tests
-> You need to have you car inspected every year
-> You need to register your car
-> You need to insure all drivers of the car
-> Many cars have lojack so you can find the car if it's stolen
-> Many -if not most- stolen cars aren't used in crimes; they are mostly stolen and sold to chop shops

 

[LV426]

Peace of mind and I like dogs, mind your own home!

Maybe instead of spending all this money on things that don't quite make you feel any more secure, you instead buy a house in a better neighborhood where you don't have to be afraid of gun-toting burglars.

 

[Wolverine]

OK, but for a car:

-> You need a license that you also must renew
-> You need to pass multiple tests
-> You need to have you car inspected every year
-> You need to register your car
-> You need to insure all drivers of the car
-> Many cars have lojack so you can find the car if it's stolen
-> Many -if not most- stolen cars aren't used in crimes; they are mostly stolen and sold to chop shops

I pass my drivers test and an eye test each time I renew.
My Truck is never inspected!
Yes I get new tags it is registered once
I insure my truck the constitution doesn't mention cars

 

[Wolverine]

Maybe instead of spending all this money on things that don't quite make you feel any more secure, you instead buy a house in a better neighborhood where you don't have to be afraid of gun-toting burglars.

I live in a great neighborhood! You think thieves are going to the ghetto to steal? I will leave you with that point being my last, I do appreciate the civil tone we have achieved, although you did throw some insults, they were much less!

 

[LV426]

I pass my drivers test and an eye test each time I renew.

Right, you pass a test, that you must take, the results of which could disqualify you from operating the vehicle.

My Truck is never inspected

Then you're breaking the law. So you are not a "law-abiding" gun owner; in fact, you're not a law-abiding anything.

Yes I get new tags it is registered once

It is registered, but are your guns registered? And yes, you get new tags every year.

I insure my truck the constitution doesn't mention cars

No, you insure yourself as a driver for your truck, and why do you insure yourself?

The constitution doesn't mention "guns" either...it says "arms" and that means the "arms" available at the time it was written. So go nuts with your powder-loaded muskets and swords, and leave the heavy weaponry to the trained professionals in our armed forces.

 

[Wolverine]

Right, you pass a test, that you must take, the results of which could disqualify you from operating the vehicle.




Then you're breaking the law. So you are not a "law-abiding" gun owner; in fact, you're not a law-abiding anything.




It is registered, but are your guns registered? And yes, you get new tags every year.




No, you insure yourself as a driver for your truck, and why do you insure yourself?

The constitution doesn't mention "guns" either...it says "arms" and that means the "arms" available at the time it was written. So go nuts with your powder-loaded muskets and swords, and leave the heavy weaponry to the trained professionals in our armed forces.

So!
Not in Ohio it's not!
Why would I register my weapon, they already know I have it from the background check, and I refuse to pay for that again!
Then why doesn't mention arms of the day, it says my right to own my weapon shall not be infringed upon! Describe heavy weaponry, an armor lite 15 is not an assault weapon in is semi auto!

 

[LV426]

So!

So...if you're going to compare guns to cars, then you have to take into account that there aren't many similarities, particularly when it comes to public policy.

ot in Ohio it's not!

Trucks in Ohio don't have to be inspected? You sure about that?

Why would I register my weapon, they already know I have it from the background check, and I refuse to pay for that again!

No, they don't know what weapon you have from a background check...all they know is that you sought to buy a weapon, but the State has no idea if you actually did.

Just because you had a background check doesn't necessarily mean you also bought a gun.

And the background check won't tell you which gun you bought, or how many guns you bought that time.

Then why doesn't mention arms of the day

Because it mentions "arms"...that means "arms of the day". Nothing else in the Constitution predicts and protects against future iterations of something, except that you're arguing it does for just this one thing.

it says my right to own my weapon shall not be infringed upon!

Sure, if you're a "well-regulated militia".

Are you a "well-regulated militia"?

How are you a "well-regulated militia"?

Who regulated you?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

So!
Not in Ohio it's not!
Why would I register my weapon, they already know I have it from the background check, and I refuse to pay for that again!
Then why doesn't mention arms of the day, it says my right to own my weapon shall not be infringed upon! Describe heavy weaponry, an armor lite 15 is not an assault weapon in is semi auto!

arguing/debating with LV is a complete waste of anyones time. the idiot has zero comprehension about the constitution, nor any idea how the government functions. ignore her posts and continue on elsewhere

 

[Nordberg]

I pass my drivers test and an eye test each time I renew.
My Truck is never inspected!
Yes I get new tags it is registered once
I insure my truck the constitution doesn't mention cars

So the constitution refers to muskets and blunderbusses? It does not mention ARs. Back then, we had a citizen army. We were a fragile country that had been invaded over and over.

 

[Wolverine]

So...if you're going to compare guns to cars, then you have to take into account that there aren't many similarities, particularly when it comes to public policy.





Trucks in Ohio don't have to be inspected? You sure about that?




No, they don't know what weapon you have from a background check...all they know is that you sought to buy a weapon, but the State has no idea if you actually did.

Just because you had a background check doesn't necessarily mean you also bought a gun.

And the background check won't tell you which gun you bought, or how many guns you bought that time.




Because it mentions "arms"...that means "arms of the day". Nothing else in the Constitution predicts and protects against future iterations of something, except that you're arguing it does for just this one thing.




Sure, if you're a "well-regulated militia".

Are you a "well-regulated militia"?

How are you a "well-regulated militia"?

Who regulated you?

Cars kill more per year than guns yes?
Yes I am sure!
I am glad the government doesn't know it is enough to know I had the background check.
Then it would say guns of today. It says nothing about abortion either but they made it!
Has nothing to do with militia and the link I shared earlier bore that out!

 

[Wolverine]

So the constitution refers to muskets and blunderbusses? It does not mention ARs. Back then, we had a citizen army. We were a fragile country that had been invaded over and over.

Show me do not tell me! it does say my right to have a weapon shall not be infringed upon!

 

[LV426]

Cars kill more per year than guns yes?

They kill about the same number, but the number for cars used to be double what it is today, proving that 40 years of regulations and laws work.

 

[Wolverine]

So the constitution refers to muskets and blunderbusses? It does not mention ARs. Back then, we had a citizen army. We were a fragile country that had been invaded over and over.

Blunderbusses would mame people badly as they loaded many different projectiles in it!

 

[Wolverine]

They kill about the same number, but the number for cars used to be double what it is today, proving that 40 years of regulations and laws work.

Better safety!