Federal Agents Spray Tear Gas at Protesters, Children During ICE Raids at California Farms | Common Dreams

[Dutch Uncle]

Don’t want to get brutalized? Then don’t attack law enforcement officers, you brain-dead morons. Weren’t you the same hypocrites wailing about the sacred rule of never touching a cop after January 6th, acting like you’d faint at the thought?

I lost count of how many times you sanctimonious drones preached that sermon. But now, it’s open season, attack, beat, shoot, dox, even kill, and you morons are cheering like it’s a reality show finale.

Hypocrisy from you drones? I’m shocked, said absolutely no one. Keep flipping your principles like a cheap burger, it’s almost as pathetic as your logic.

Did you ever take the oath to support and defend the Constitution, Toby? If so, do you abide by that oath?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Have you been there and seen it for yourself?????

Burden of proof fallacy. I named the owner of the farm. They were growing marijuana and everybody, them, the state, the feds, everybody says they were. The growing and sale of marijuana is a federal crime.

21 U.S. Code § 841 - Prohibited acts A

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Federal Laws for Possession of Weed and Distribution of Marijuana Charges

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Everybody admits that there were children ("unaccompanied minors") working on the farm, the only variation is exactly how many.

I don't have to go there to know those are the facts in this case.

 

[Scott]

Well, it is Common Dreams, about as radical Left as you can get.

I notice that Ms. Conley's article omits several crucial facts and overstates others.

First, judging from all the video, and there's a lot of it, there were dozens of protesters, not "hundreds" as Ms. Conley claims and there was never a "crowd" of them present.

She omits that the farm operation was illegally growing marijuana and that they were using child labor. So, you had illegal immigrant farm workers working on an illegal (eg., criminal) drug growing operation.

She omits that one of the protesters fired a pistol at the ICE agents and that others physically attacked them and their vehicles with rocks, and handheld improvised weapons. All of those actions are serious, violent, felonies.

She omits that being a Representative does not automatically entitle you to participate in federal law enforcement operations nor does it allow you to interfere with them. Claiming you are conducting "Oversight" doesn't cut it particularly when what you really intend is to interfere.

On the whole, it's about what I would expect from a site sympathetic to, and even supportive of, criminal aliens illegally in the United States engaged in criminal activity.

As I told Tobytone, some of what you say may be true- the problem is that, like Tobytone, you don't actually provide any evidence for your assertions.

 

[Scott]

No, I just prefer it when people back up their claims.

Do you?

Yes.

I'm sure you would have been shocked and finally understood the democrats are supporting criminals and child exploitation, right?

You may find another thread I started today to be educational as to my views on many key democrats and republicans:

Thread 'Trump, Epstein and the Deep State | Chris Hedges'

Yesterday at 6:41 PM

Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
**

The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by...

• Scott
• bill gates chris hedges deep state donald trump epstein fbi fbi deputy director dan bongino fbi director kash patel pam bondi prince andrew
• Replies: 7
• Forum: General Politics Forum

• 

 

[Scott]

Burden of proof fallacy. I named the owner of the farm. They were growing marijuana and everybody, them, the state, the feds, everybody says they were. The growing and sale of marijuana is a federal crime.

21 U.S. Code § 841 - Prohibited acts A

www.law.cornell.edu

Federal Laws for Possession of Weed and Distribution of Marijuana Charges

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Everybody admits that there were children ("unaccompanied minors") working on the farm, the only variation is exactly how many.

I don't have to go there to know those are the facts in this case.

Thanks for providing evidence for at least some of your claims. Here's to hoping that we can focus on evidence instead of just bad mouthing each other.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

As I told Tobytone, some of what you say may be true- the problem is that, like Tobytone, you don't actually provide any evidence for your assertions.

If you bother to look up any of numerous sources everything I stated is correct. It is what I'd call "common knowledge," so it needs little proof.

 

[Scott]

As I told Tobytone, some of what you say may be true- the problem is that, like Tobytone, you don't actually provide any evidence for your assertions.

If you bother to look up any of numerous sources everything I stated is correct. It is what I'd call "common knowledge," so it needs little proof.

As I like to tell people, I don't do other's homework for them. If someone makes a claim and is asked to provide evidence for it, I think the logical thing would be for them to do so. I've never understood the logic of some that their ideological opponents should be the one to provide evidence for their own claims. You did provide a bit of evidence for your claims in post #22, though upon looking more closely, I now see that you only provided evidence that growing marijuana was a federal crime, not that the farm in question was actually growing it. I'm not saying they weren't growing it, I'm just pointing out you didn't provide any evidence of this.

 

[Tobytone]

Have you been there and seen it for yourself?????

I've seen the video of the dumbasses throwing massive rocks and smashing out the windows of the ICE vehicles and another loser popping off rounds at the officers, have you? Probably not because you're likely glued to MSNBC or The View.

 

[Trumpet]

I've seen the video of the dumbasses throwing massive rocks and smashing out the windows of the ICE vehicles and another loser popping off rounds at the officers, have you? Probably not because you're likely glued to MSNBC or The View.

There are plenty of fake propaganda videos going around.

 

[Tobytone]

Yes.



You may find another thread I started today to be educational as to my views on many key democrats and republicans:

Thread 'Trump, Epstein and the Deep State | Chris Hedges'

Yesterday at 6:41 PM

Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
**

The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by...

• Scott
• bill gates chris hedges deep state donald trump epstein fbi fbi deputy director dan bongino fbi director kash patel pam bondi prince andrew
• Replies: 7
• Forum: General Politics Forum

• 

I'm really not interested but I'm sure it's good. Are you all set with the google lesson? I assume you've figured it out already. Are you ready to say I was correct about the Cartel's and 'Farm workers' and 'rioters attacking feds' and unaccompanied minors working on the farm?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I've seen the video of the dumbasses throwing massive rocks and smashing out the windows of the ICE vehicles and another loser popping off rounds at the officers, have you? Probably not because you're likely glued to MSNBC or The View.

Arrest them. I'm good with arresting all criminals, especially the violent ones. The problem is a President who pardons violent terrorists for political reasons.