For those who think Trump has committed crimes and should be locked up.

[domer76]

Thank you for validating my post.

BINGO. My prediction from 18 months ago still proves itself.

“6/30/17

I predict Evmetro will post some babbling piece of bullshit and when people reply to point that out, he will respond with a juvenile “I told you so!”

Thank you in advance for proving me correct.”

 

[Underdog]

I agree on most of what you said here...except for the "if there was anything we would have heard by now."

Mueller is running a tight ship. I doubt we would have heard...and I suspect there is plenty...which we will hear about when the time is right.

But as you said, "We will see."

My issue with this is that this is the same guy who botched the anthrax investigation so as tight as you think, his conclusions wont be iron clad.

 

[Underdog]

Dude, go get yourself, at least, a 5th grade education!

That way you won't have to ask so many stupid questions that are at the 5th grade level of comprehension! LOL!

Asking to provide proof, cite the law, and give evidence is "5th grade" to you? is 5th grade a goal for you or something?

 

[Underdog]

interesting avatar.......previously used by someone banned for trying to bypass a permaban.......do you know him?......

How do you get permabanned from this place? lol




You can search my username, it goes back to at least 2004. derp. I forgot this place was full of paranoid idiots.

 

[Underdog]

Try to be patient, while Mueller is preparing his report!

He is getting paid to explain this to you- Not me!

But you opine he's a criminal, right?

 

[Ross Dolan]

My issue with this is that this is the same guy who botched the anthrax investigation so as tight as you think, his conclusions wont be iron clad.

To quote that great philosopher (I forget his name)..."We'll see."

 

[Underdog]

You cited 3 laws and then cited evidence that doesn't violate any of the laws.

In order to show someone violated the law you have to cite the specific part of the law and then clearly show how that law was broken.

The email chain at no point knowingly removes classified information from it's authorized location per US Code 1924.
503.59 requires classified information to be hand carried from one cleared person to another so it can't apply if the info can be securely faxed.
798 only applies if a person knowingly transmits to an unauthorized person.

There is nothing in your evidence that violates any of those laws. In fact there is no evidence of how the requested TPs were finally sent to the Secretary.
No prosecutor would dare to bring such a flimsy case to any court. They would be at minimum reprimanded and more than likely sanctioned for doing so.
Without evidence of classified information in those emails we can't even get to the other parts of the law that require intent.

Sure it does, the fact she directed him to strip the classifcation marking and send nonsecure is against the law. THat clearly shows intent. And furthermore to suggest she had no intent as SECSTATE and was simply ignorant of classification laws is absurd. Prosecutors have went after people for less.



So to your point, are you arguing it is not against the law to keep, store, and share classified information outside of a SCIF?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

How do you get permabanned from this place? lol

it involves being incredibly stupid......

 

[Underdog]

it involves being incredibly stupid......

It would seem so given some of the vitriol and idiocy here.... lol

 

[Bourbon]

I often hear people screech "Trump broke laws and should be locked up" my question is, What specific laws do you think he broke, please cite and link it, and what is your actual evidence to hold such a position. Thanks!

Now that's ODD ... I've been saying the same think for years about the Clinton's

But to answer your question; what specific Laws that Trump broke?

That can't be answered until ...

1. The investigation has ended
2. Indictments are handed out
3. A Trial Date is set
4. A hearing is conducted
5. The Prosecution will make their case
6. The Defense will have their Rebuttal
7. The Jury will render a decision
8. The Judge will then Tell you?

Book make this page for when you guys ask the same question again next week.

 

[Robo]

I often hear people screech "Trump broke laws and should be locked up" my question is, What specific laws do you think he broke, please cite and link it, and what is your actual evidence to hold such a position. Thanks!

Notice that leftist only provide insults and accusations. That's because they have nothing rational, honest, apparent or backed up with any evidence to provide. Most just repeat the total horseshit they watch on CNN and MSNBC.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You have provided no evidence that anyone was asked to strip any classification markings. The emails are very ambiguous.
Do you have evidence that all headers only contain classification markings? Clearly not.
Do you have evidence that the document in question had a header that contained classification markings? If so, you haven't presented it.

Speculation on your part is not evidence of any crime.

So to your point, are you arguing it is not against the law to keep, store, and share classified information outside of a SCIF?

Care to point to the specific law you are referring to and explain how the action you are describing is a violation that would result in criminal charges. Minor cases of mishandling of classified information are handled administratively. When a person is no longer employed no action is taken.

It is illegal to intentionally remove classified items or information from their authorized place of storage. It is not a crime to receive an email that is not classified at the time but is determined to be so later. If such was the case, I could simply send you an email and report you for a violation of national security and you would have no defense.

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

But you opine he's a criminal, right?

I knew Donald Trump was a snake before you idiots ever had a brain fart and thought this low-life motherfucker could serve as the president.

Just look at all the lies he has been telling in the years leading up to his campaign, during the campaign, and since he has been in office. This sorry son-of-a-bitch has been sued for fraud over 3500 times, and he has either been convicted of fraud and had to pay restitutions in over 2400 of them, or has settled out of court to the tune of paying millions of dollars to the ones he has Fucked over. He paid over 25 million to settle out of court over his Trump University scam alone.

So, you better God Damn believe we are speaking up about it now, given all we know- given what we have seen with our own eyes, given what we've heard with our own ears.

One would have to be a total dumbfuck idiot, to think this idiot could even be the president of the Hair Club For Men, much less the president of the United States.

So shut the fuck up YOU total Dumbfuck Idiot YOU!

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

Asking to provide proof, cite the law, and give evidence is "5th grade" to you? is 5th grade a goal for you or something?

I'm saying you are not even as smart as the common 5th grader you stupid motherfucker!

 

[Underdog]

Now that's ODD ... I've been saying the same think for years about the Clinton's

But to answer your question; what specific Laws that Trump broke?

That can't be answered until ...

1. The investigation has ended
2. Indictments are handed out
3. A Trial Date is set
4. A hearing is conducted
5. The Prosecution will make their case
6. The Defense will have their Rebuttal
7. The Jury will render a decision
8. The Judge will then Tell you?

Book make this page for when you guys ask the same question again next week.

Derp, tough guy, the quesiton is of your ilk who think he has committed crimes and I've listed hillary's in the first couple pages, do try to keep up? Too many jabs to the head?

 

[Underdog]

I'm saying you are not even as smart as the common 5th grader you stupid motherfucker!

u mad, bro?


It's ironic you struggled to get that point across.

 

[Underdog]

I knew Donald Trump was a snake before you idiots ever had a brain fart and thought this low-life motherfucker could serve as the president.

Just look at all the lies he has been telling in the years leading up to his campaign, during the campaign, and since he has been in office. This sorry son-of-a-bitch has been sued for fraud over 3500 times, and he has either been convicted of fraud and had to pay restitutions in over 2400 of them, or has settled out of court to the tune of paying millions of dollars to the ones he has Fucked over. He paid over 25 million to settle out of court over his Trump University scam alone.

So, you better God Damn believe we are speaking up about it now, given all we know- given what we have seen with our own eyes, given what we've heard with our own ears.

One would have to be a total dumbfuck idiot, to think this idiot could even be the president of the Hair Club For Men, much less the president of the United States.

So shut the fuck up YOU total Dumbfuck Idiot YOU!

YOu seem mad, you should relax, it's just the internet. I know it can be frustrating but do try to keep up, NPC.


1. I didn't vote for trump.

2. you are speculating I want the code and law, as well as your evidence of the crime he committed.

3. you have a big e-mouth, do you kiss your mother with it?

 

[Bourbon]

Derp, tough guy, the quesiton is of your ilk who think he has committed crimes and I've listed hillary's in the first couple pages, do try to keep up? Too many jabs to the head?

Who give a Fuck what anyone "thinks" ... ?

Sit back, STFU and let the Man do his Job ...

You''l find out when he's DONE, NOT when you want him to be DONE.

Deal with it, you're now in control.

 

[Underdog]

You have provided no evidence that anyone was asked to strip any classification markings. The emails are very ambiguous.

Only if your ignorant to how classification works, the headings are the markings "confidential, secret, top secret, TS/CNWDI, TS with SCI eligibility, etc etc etc." when in that email she said to "strip the headings and send nonsecure" she directed her aide to take a classified paper, take off the classified markings and send in via nonsecure means..... This is a felony.

Do you have evidence that all headers only contain classification markings? Clearly not.

https://www.wrc.noaa.gov/wrso/security_guide/marking.htm

Do you have evidence that the document in question had a header that contained classification markings? If so, you haven't presented it.

If I ask you to remove something, does that thing have that thing or not. The issue was the aide couldn't get the secure fax (illegal to posess outside of a scif btw), to go, she told him to take off the classification headers and send it nonsecure. The email indicates they were there to remove.

Note on the last image, the crossed out top secret is the headers.

Speculation on your part is not evidence of any crime.

I've speculated nothing. I've cited the laws, and provided evidence.

Care to point to the specific law you are referring to and explain how the action you are describing is a violation that would result in criminal charges. Minor cases of mishandling of classified information are handled administratively. When a person is no longer employed no action is taken.

I did, you can go back and review. everything I'm posting here, I've posted before.

It is illegal to intentionally remove classified items or information from their authorized place of storage. It is not a crime to receive an email that is not classified at the time but is determined to be so later. If such was the case, I could simply send you an email and report you for a violation of national security and you would have no defense.

1. True, her server which contained numerous known classified materials is an example of intentionally removing. It is a crime if you recieve classified information not to report it and take safeguards to protect it.

2. I have recieved classified materials via nonsecure channels, there is a protocol to deal with it. one way not to, is to retain in on a home built server outside of a SCIF and tell my aide to strip headings and send it as if its an unclassified document.

 

[Underdog]

Who give a Fuck what anyone "thinks" ... ?

Sit back, STFU and let the Man do his Job ...

You''l find out when he's DONE, NOT when you want him to be DONE.

Deal with it, you're now in control.

Who's gonna make me STFU?


I'm asking a question of those who are calling for his arrest today, I agree with you,we should wait, but your ilk has other plans.