Into the Night
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Maps of estimates and made up numbers is pointless. Define 'pollution'.
Fossil Fuels are a 5.9 Trillion Public Charity
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Maps of estimates and made up numbers is pointless. Define 'pollution'.
Into the Night
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Name calling is not a proof of anything, nor a valid argument at all. Insult fallacy.
Into the Night
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Define 'health and infrastructure damage'. Fossils aren't used as fuel. Oil producers pay for their own spills and accidents. Oil companies pay for their own spills and accidents.
People will buy whatever energy source they want. You don't get to dictate that market.
I think I finally figured you out you have an abuse fetish you need people to tell you you're a moron you get off on it That's why you always say such stupid stuff
Do you really believe that? Or do you just make up shit as you go along? https://www.epa.gov/emergency-response/who-pays Ever hear of the superfund? Ever hear of anything?
Yes the government has the power to help some industries and harm others to make the country cleaner and safer.
Here is an exmp[le of oil companies avoiding fixing the damage they created. https://www.propublica.org/article/...untability-after-10.8-million-gallons-spilled
Into the Night
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Neither the EPA nor the Superfund has cleaned up anything.
Define 'unclean' and 'unsafe'. Describe where government has done anything to make anything cleaner or safer.
T. A. Gardner
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I will say, that the EPA using superfund money caused one of the largest environmental accidents within the lower 48 at the Gold King mine in Colorado...
https://superfund.arizona.edu/sites/superfund.cals.arizona.edu/files/gold_king_mine_spill.pdf
This is what happens when you let an unaccountable government run things, sort of like Chernobyl...
$1.2 billion in claims against the EPA for this environmental disaster and the EPA is telling the plaintiffs You don't get shit because we're the government, so fuck you!
https://superfund.arizona.edu/sites/superfund.cals.arizona.edu/files/gold_king_mine_spill.pdf
This is what happens when you let an unaccountable government run things, sort of like Chernobyl...
https://www.daily-times.com/story/n...epa-says-wont-pay-mine-spill-claims/96553892/
$1.2 billion in claims against the EPA for this environmental disaster and the EPA is telling the plaintiffs You don't get shit because we're the government, so fuck you!
How damn ignorant are you? https://www.canada.ca/en/environmen...ic-issues/damage-infrastructure-industry.html
Our historical statues and buildings are being eaten away by pollution.
Into the Night
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I remember this. A river that was a source of water for a fairly large community was poisoned as a result.
Yup.
Typical of fascists. They don't care about anyone but themselves.
Into the Night
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No. They are being destroyed by fucks like Antifa, BLM, and Democrats.
Into the Night
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They didn't create a hurricane, dumbass.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
We'll see how you feel about that when the NE runs out of fuel in the dead of winter. People are going to die.
T. A. Gardner
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We'll see how you feel about that when the NE runs out of fuel in the dead of winter. People are going to die.
Not to mention more people die of cold than do from it being hot...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/
Some sites try to fool you by adding in the cost of carbon to the equation, but that doesn't help you pay the bill when it comes due...
Electric heating is both inefficient and costly. It's fine if you live somewhere like Phoenix where I do and use a heat pump (A/C run in reverse). The coldest days barely reach freezing and are few. Most of the time, you are in the 50's or 60's during the winter.
But live somewhere where it gets really cold and your electric bill can easily top $1000 a month for heating.
Into the Night
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Not to mention more people die of cold than do from it being hot...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/
Some sites try to fool you by adding in the cost of carbon to the equation, but that doesn't help you pay the bill when it comes due...
Electric heating is both inefficient and costly. It's fine if you live somewhere like Phoenix where I do and use a heat pump (A/C run in reverse). The coldest days barely reach freezing and are few. Most of the time, you are in the 50's or 60's during the winter.
But live somewhere where it gets really cold and your electric bill can easily top $1000 a month for heating.
Heat pumps are good for certain places, such as Phoenix where you want AC running anyway in the summer, or the Pacific NW where winters are mild and summers are somewhat hot and humid (nothing like Phoenix furnace heat though!).
Where winters are harsh and summers aren't particularly warm, heat pumps are very limited in what they can do and can be expensive to run.
This does touch on the cost of running electric cars everywhere as well. Electricity can be expensive in some areas compared to gasoline or fuel oils.
We'll see how you feel about that when the NE runs out of fuel in the dead of winter. People are going to die.
Your drugs are making you delusional and you're saying stupid crap
so now gubmint data is ok? Your drugs are making you delusional and you're saying stupid crap.
Not to mention more people die of cold than do from it being hot...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/
Some sites try to fool you by adding in the cost of carbon to the equation, but that doesn't help you pay the bill when it comes due...
Electric heating is both inefficient and costly. It's fine if you live somewhere like Phoenix where I do and use a heat pump (A/C run in reverse). The coldest days barely reach freezing and are few. Most of the time, you are in the 50's or 60's during the winter.
But live somewhere where it gets really cold and your electric bill can easily top $1000 a month for heating.
so now gubmint data is ok? Your drugs are making you delusional and you're saying stupid crap.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
???.....pull them down......its much faster......
Into the Night
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I didn't use any government data.