Fox News shows it's ignorance and bigotry again

Mott the Hoople said:
Now please explaing to me how this is not a hostile and critical comment of Tiger's Buddhist beliefs?

"I don't think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith," Hume said. "So my message to Tiger would be, "Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world."

That comment is both ignorant and bigoted. Maybe you should actually try reading/listening to what people actually say (write) before you make your knee jerk wingnut comments.
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I will.

He openly admits that he doesn't know what Tiger's faith offers. So (because he doesn't know) he offers what he does know about.

Had he said, "The Buddhist Faith has no forgiveness and so..." I think it would be different. But my response would still be much the same. Some ignorance is admitted to, as with Brit here, some is truly ignorant but it all amounts to the same thing. Brit offered what he believes is a great gift, it should be taken in that spirit not the one that would mistakenly express an untruth about Buddhism. One shouldn't attribute a negative aspect that didn't exist because of a lack of knowledge.

I guess you will have to be angry for me, who as a Buddhist supposedly had his religion insulted, because I have no anger for this.

If he knew about the faith then offered a deliberate untruth I may feel differently. But honestly, not too many people in the western culture have an understanding of Buddhism.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Now please explaing to me how this is not a hostile and critical comment of Tiger's Buddhist beliefs?

"I don't think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith," Hume said. "So my message to Tiger would be, "Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world."

That comment is both ignorant and bigoted. Maybe you should actually try reading/listening to what people actually say (write) before you make your knee jerk wingnut comments.
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what, no comment on what I posted by Andrew Sullivan and some REAL BIGORTY...?? you just gloss right over that one to continue on your made up one about Hume and Fox news.....maybe it is you who is "kneejerk" and not real honest to boot, but I don't know too many lefties that are..
 
Damocles said:
I will.

He openly admits that he doesn't know Tiger's faith offers. So (because he doesn't know) he offers what he does know about.

Had he said, "The Buddhist Faith has no forgiveness and so..." I think it would be different. But my response would still be much the same. Some ignorance is admitted to, as with Brit here, some is truly ignorant, but it all amounts to the same thing. Brit offered what he believes is a great gift, it should be taken in that spirit, not the one that would mistakenly express an untruth about Buddhism. One shouldn't attribute a negative aspect that didn't exist because of a lack of knowledge.

I guess you will have to be angry for me, who as a Buddhist supposedly had his religion insulted, because I have no anger for this.
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Dude, he basically took a steamy dump on Buddhism and in no uncertain terms said he thinks it is inadequate as compared to Christianity. You can try to paint it in the best light possible if you want, but it seems that there are some other Buddhists that disagree with your assessment.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Dude, he basically took a steamy dump on Buddhism and in no uncertain terms said he thinks it is inadequate as compared to Christianity. You can try to paint it in the best light possible if you want, but it seems that there are some other Buddhists that disagree with your assessment.
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well they should sting up Hume and shut down Fox news...:good4u:
 
cawacko said:
you don't see any? any anti-Christian sentiment in a little bit of the Democratic base? and then this outrage over a comment directed towards buddist? (sp)
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How many elected Democrats are there at the national level that are not of some Judeo-Christian faith. Off the top of my head, I can think of one. You're saying that Democrats are self-haters or something? They're a bunch of Christians that are anti-Christian?
 
NigelTufnel said:
Dude, he basically took a steamy dump on Buddhism and in no uncertain terms said he thinks it is inadequate as compared to Christianity. You can try to paint it in the best light possible if you want, but it seems that there are some other Buddhists that disagree with your assessment.
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And that means that I should suddenly change my mind? Some Buddhists make mistakes, they may even cheat on their spouse causing incredible pain to another, tearing apart families...

This is what Buddha had to say on the subject of such anger. (literally the 3rd, 4th, and 5th lines of the Dhammapada.)

3. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he robbed me." Those who harbor such thoughts do not still their hatred.

4. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he robbed me." Those who do not harbor such thoughts still their hatred.

5. Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal.

Even if Brit deliberately said an untruth about Buddhism, he would still receive the forgiveness he thought was missing from Buddhism.
 
NigelTufnel said:
How many elected Democrats are there at the national level that are not of some Judeo-Christian faith. Off the top of my head, I can think of one. You're saying that Democrats are self-haters or something? They're a bunch of Christians that are anti-Christian?
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My comment was directed at Mott being a Democrat, I wasn't talking elected officials hence my comment about a certain portion of the base. (my reason for that being Britt Hume isn't an elected official).
 
Damocles said:
And that means that I should suddenly change my mind? Some Buddhists make mistakes, they may even cheat on their spouse causing incredible pain to another, tearing apart families...

This is what Buddha had to say on the subject of such anger. (literally the 3rd, 4th, and 5th lines of the Dhammapada.)

3. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he robbed me." Those who harbor such thoughts do not still their hatred.

4. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he robbed me." Those who do not harbor such thoughts still their hatred.

5. Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal.

Even if Brit deliberately said an untruth about Buddhism, he would still receive the forgiveness he thought was missing from Buddhism.
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I'm not going to argue the point with you.

I will note, though, that it's always interesting to see who gets the benefit of the doubt from you.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
A rather diplomatic thing for you to say since Humes comments were openly hostile and critical of Tiger's Buddhist beliefs.
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I don't think they were openly hostile. They were obviously ignorant with respect to Buddhist beliefs, but I fail to see how it was hostile. Perhaps you could enlighten me on that point.
 
Yahoo news is becoming another Enquire magazine...

we should be waiting to hear about the two headed bat boy in this rag next..
 
NigelTufnel said:
I'm not going to argue the point with you.

I will note, though, that it's always interesting to see who gets the benefit of the doubt from you.
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Everybody gets this same benefit, if you had said some silly thing about Buddhism you too would get the same response full of non-anger and a direct effort to find what you meant rather than focus no your mistake. In fact, I have difficulty remembering any time I was angry with people on this site, or even with people I think are acting foolishly and are in positions of power.

I find it interesting that you seem to mistake pointing out what I believe to be a bad policy or irresponsibility with "anger" and "unforgiveness"...

I have always explained what I understand to be true, that both sides of the spectrum want to reach the same destination, I just believe that the other side is using a McDonald's map with a big "X" and purple shake mountains. Their heart is in the right place, it is their policy that is mistaken.
 
Superfreak said:
I don't think they were openly hostile. They were obviously ignorant with respect to Buddhist beliefs, but I fail to see how it was hostile. Perhaps you could enlighten me on that point.
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Speak to Dung. Apparently, since it is Brit, I should be ready to burn him in some sort of Christian version of eternal torment.

Seriously, he showed no more ignorance of the faith than almost everybody in the US who isn't a Buddhist themselves.
 
I feel for ya Damo, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't..

just stick to being who you are is all that matters..in my book that is a good guy..:good4u:
 
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