France has a debt that is 115.6% of GDP, compared to the US's debt of 124% of GDP. France has a deficit of 5.8% of GDP, compared to the US's deficit of 5.9%.
FRANCE Is BREAKING — and Could Take EUROPE DOWN With It -- driven by deficit spending.
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Were you ever on the "doll"?
France has a debt that is 115.6% of GDP, compared to the US's debt of 124% of GDP. France has a deficit of 5.8% of GDP, compared to the US's deficit of 5.9%.
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Nobody claimed otherwise, did they, Salty Walty?
But Y O U said this, Salty Walty:
The claim that "Trump is desperately trying to make it [the US deficit and debt] worse" is not accurate. While independent analyses from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), and others project that his major policies—particularly the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), which extends 2017 tax cuts and adds new exemptions (e.g., on tips, overtime, and Social Security benefits)—will increase deficits by $2.4 trillion to $4.6 trillion over the next decade and push debt-to-GDP above 118% by 2035, Trump's administration and public statements emphasize the opposite intent: reducing the debt through tariffs, spending cuts, and economic growth.
Tariffs implemented since early 2025 generated a record $195 billion in customs duties for FY 2025 (up 250% from FY 2024), contributing to a slight annual deficit dip to $1.775 trillion (from $1.817 trillion in FY 2024); the first decline since 2022.
"Desperately trying to make it worse" implies malice or recklessness unsupported by his stated goals.
Long-term debt and deficit reduction hinges on whether income from deregulation and tariffs outpaces the borrowing spike that Democrats insist upon, Salty Walty.
IBDaMann
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Are you implying that those are the only differences between the US and France?
How much is France raking in from tariffs and how much is the US?
In the end, no matter what tactics we try, our government simply must stop spending so much.
We cannot afford to give money away to third world nations.
We cannot afford the silly high "Program Administrator" costs, they must learn to be more efficient, or have their program canceled entirely.
We cannot afford to have pay for illegals to get free stuff, or even stay in our nation, they must be deported, quickly and cheaply. All 14Million of them!
We need to end all of the DEI programs and racial preferences in our government. By the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, it is unconstitutional to treat Americans deferentially based on Race, Gender, Orientation, or Ethnicity.
There is a huge number of assistance programs that at one time were beneficial, and okay, but with $39T in national debt, and over $1T in interest on the debt each year, American simply cannot afford, now, or ever again.
Slash the budget until it hurts, then slash it another twenty times! When your arm is too tired, set aside the budget machete and get out the chainsaw and sledge hammer!
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We cannot afford to give money away to third world nations.
We cannot afford the silly high "Program Administrator" costs, they must learn to be more efficient, or have their program canceled entirely.
We cannot afford to have pay for illegals to get free stuff, or even stay in our nation, they must be deported, quickly and cheaply. All 14Million of them!
We need to end all of the DEI programs and racial preferences in our government. By the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, it is unconstitutional to treat Americans deferentially based on Race, Gender, Orientation, or Ethnicity.
There is a huge number of assistance programs that at one time were beneficial, and okay, but with $39T in national debt, and over $1T in interest on the debt each year, American simply cannot afford, now, or ever again.
Slash the budget until it hurts, then slash it another twenty times! When your arm is too tired, set aside the budget machete and get out the chainsaw and sledge hammer!
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The French destroyed themselves by allowing indiscriminate immigration.
The only good government programs is the one's that were completely, permanently canceled, and successfully had all their funds pulled back into the General Funds account.
Slash, Chop, Cancel, Destroy Government Programs where ever they are found, with no mercy and no exceptions. Destroy Government!
Destroy Government Programs!
Destroy Government Programs!
Destroy Government Programs!
Slash! Chop! Cancel! Cancel! Cancel!
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Slash, Chop, Cancel, Destroy Government Programs where ever they are found, with no mercy and no exceptions. Destroy Government!
Destroy Government Programs!
Destroy Government Programs!
Destroy Government Programs!
Slash! Chop! Cancel! Cancel! Cancel!
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Destroy Government Programs!
Destroy the Illegals!
Destroy the Vote-Fraud!
Destroy the National Debt!
Destroy the Trillion in Interest payments!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE8T_zI47fs
Destroy!
Destroy!
Destroy!
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Destroy the Illegals!
Destroy the Vote-Fraud!
Destroy the National Debt!
Destroy the Trillion in Interest payments!
Destroy!
Destroy!
Destroy!
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China is worse off than the U.S., Commie.
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China is worse off than the U.S., Commie.
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Trump doesn't add to the debt, Wally.
Illiteracy: Proper nouns are always capitalized.
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A MAGAt (or sometimes spelled MAGAT) is a buzzword created by Democrats. It seems to refer to Democrats. A synonym.
IBDaMann
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Well, it would certainly be logically consistent.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
... until we start making even more. Otherwise, you are spot on.
... except on those very few occasions where we cannot afford not to. Otherwise, you are spot on.
Spot on.
... except for those who aren't getting free stuff, and/or are creating jobs and are contributing to GDP. Otherwise, you are spot on.
Spot on.
You forgot a tax system that would be fair and have the rich pay bigly.
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IBDaMann
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FTFY. A "fair" tax system would have all people pay the same low percentage.
Additionally, I'd be happy if they just paid exactly the same percentage rate on their income as I, as a working class person does.
In most instances, they have accountants, tax shelters, and a dozen ways of making sure that they pay only a small percentage of what I, as a working class person, pays.
If the going rate is 18%, then every single person in the nation, should pay exactly 18%. No dodges, no shelters, no excuses, pay up.
But there should be a cap on how much they can set that number to, no more than say 12%.
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