Fueled by millions of $$ from national labor groups, 6 Republican senators face recal

Apparently denying people job's is perfectly OK as long as the purpose of the denial isn't to better the status of the working man. Join the fucking union. It's simple enough. Or find another fucking job at a place that will hire you voluntarily. Don't go to mommy government and beg them to use government intervention to force the union to void it's contract with the business.

Or fill out the paperwork to resign from the union and pay a lower amount that supposedly removes the portion they would give to political causes. Then when they go on strike you get a crapton of over time and make a bank.

When the unionites try to tell you that you are "selfish" tell them you can't be, because a portion of your pay is going to continue to pay them while they are out on strike. If you didn't continue working the strike would be easier to break.
 
Or fill out the paperwork to resign from the union and pay a lower amount that supposedly removes the portion they would give to political causes. Then when they go on strike you get a crapton of over time and make a bank.

When the unionites try to tell you that you are "selfish" tell them you can't be, because a portion of your pay is going to continue to pay them while they are out on strike. If you didn't continue working the strike would be easier to break.

and then buy new tires to replace the slashed ones on your car.......
 
unions aren't labor, they are like corporations. your attempt to deflect from reality and the political power of unions is laughable. unions and "labor" are not the same thing. nice try buckaroo.

Unions ARE labor. PERIOD.

It is NO coincidence that as unions have been crushed over the last 30 years, so had the middle class. You scum on the right don't even try to hide your attempt to build an aristocracy or your ass licking of the elite.

"With all their faults, trade unions have done more for humanity than any other organization of men that ever existed"
Clarence Darrow
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age

http://www.answers.com/topic/robber-baron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_union_busting_in_the_United_States

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/02/a-short-history-of-violent-union-busting-in-the-usa-2/

History repeating itself.

Young "conservatives" who don't know what conservatives are trying to conserve taking out their asses about unions when they have no clue what blue collar life would be like if unions had never existed.

"service" this bitch.

It is enough to make one sick.
 
Unions ARE labor. PERIOD.

It is NO coincidence that as unions have been crushed over the last 30 years, so had the middle class. You scum on the right don't even try to hide your attempt to build an aristocracy or your ass licking of the elite.

"With all their faults, trade unions have done more for humanity than any other organization of men that ever existed"
Clarence Darrow


Screw all the hype from both sides. I have had two major experiences with unions.

The first was at Gulf States paper mill in Tuscaloosa AL. The union wanted an increase in wages and in the healthcare package. Both were already about the highest for any blue collar workers in the area, but the union wanted to flex muscles. The man who owns the company met with the workers and told them the mill needed upgrading. If they would wait until the upgrade was finished, he would give them their raises. At that time, the mill was barely making a profit and needed to be reworked. The union demanded the raises and the owner stood firm. The union people called for a strike. The membership voted and voted no. They called for another vote. And another, and another, and another. Finally on the 5th vote they had enough to go on strike. The mill owner told them he was willing to help them after the mill was refurbished, but if they went on strike he would close the mill.

They struck, and he closed the mill. One of the largest employers in West Alabama, the closing put thousands of people out of work. The union guys? They moved on to a new place and left the workers behind.



The other incident was a union powerline shop. They maintain the training records and approve the linemen's qualifications for various jobs. Often they will not allow the prime contractor access to the training/qualification records. A retired Georgia Power lineman was sent to a job in which energized lines were handled. It is highly specialized work. They signed off saying the lineman had the necessary qualifications. We found out that he did not. The problem is that we found this out during the investigation into his death. He was electrocuted.


Yeah, labor is all about the best interests of the worker. They are no different that the politicians. They are all about power.
 
Screw all the hype from both sides. I have had two major experiences with unions.

The first was at Gulf States paper mill in Tuscaloosa AL. The union wanted an increase in wages and in the healthcare package. Both were already about the highest for any blue collar workers in the area, but the union wanted to flex muscles. The man who owns the company met with the workers and told them the mill needed upgrading. If they would wait until the upgrade was finished, he would give them their raises. At that time, the mill was barely making a profit and needed to be reworked. The union demanded the raises and the owner stood firm. The union people called for a strike. The membership voted and voted no. They called for another vote. And another, and another, and another. Finally on the 5th vote they had enough to go on strike. The mill owner told them he was willing to help them after the mill was refurbished, but if they went on strike he would close the mill.

They struck, and he closed the mill. One of the largest employers in West Alabama, the closing put thousands of people out of work. The union guys? They moved on to a new place and left the workers behind.



The other incident was a union powerline shop. They maintain the training records and approve the linemen's qualifications for various jobs. Often they will not allow the prime contractor access to the training/qualification records. A retired Georgia Power lineman was sent to a job in which energized lines were handled. It is highly specialized work. They signed off saying the lineman had the necessary qualifications. We found out that he did not. The problem is that we found this out during the investigation into his death. He was electrocuted.


Yeah, labor is all about the best interests of the worker. They are no different that the politicians. They are all about power.

Do you want to compare stories where unions helped workers gain higher wages, better working conditions and better benefits? Because if you do, you will LOOSE.

Clarence Darrow said it perfectly: "With all their faults, trade unions have done more for humanity than any other organization of men that ever existed"
 
Unions ARE labor. PERIOD.

It is NO coincidence that as unions have been crushed over the last 30 years, so had the middle class. You scum on the right don't even try to hide your attempt to build an aristocracy or your ass licking of the elite.

"With all their faults, trade unions have done more for humanity than any other organization of men that ever existed"
Clarence Darrow

they are no more labor than corporations. trade unions did do good in the beginning. but many were corrupt later on. their current model is destructive to the workforce. that is why so many people do not want to join a union.
 
LEt's not get it twisted, the biggest spender in the recall elections,
"Of the corporations and labor union spending recorded, the Republican Governor’s Association topped the list with almost $3.5 million in contributions during an election period defined by sweeping Republican victories"

http://badgerherald.com/news/2010/11/15/special_interests_sp.php

that does not say spending, it says contributions. further your articl states that more money went undisclosed. it does not take away the facts of the OP. but i know you have no courage to actually discuss this with me.
 
Unions are dead unless we reverse the slave labor trade with China.
You can not argue with a straight face to pay some union GED 80k for screwing parts together when we incentivize Chineese to do it for $3K
 
Unions are dead unless we reverse the slave labor trade with China.
You can not argue with a straight face to pay some union GED 80k for screwing parts together when we incentivize Chineese to do it for $3K

now there's no doubt.....drug addiction plus GED reference plus mis-spelled words....gotta be Topspin.........
 
If unions are dead, then the middle class is too! Unions are what gave the USA a strong middle class, and the living wage. I feel sorry for the future workers.
 
they are no more labor than corporations. trade unions did do good in the beginning. but many were corrupt later on. their current model is destructive to the workforce. that is why so many people do not want to join a union.

Is there any more bullshit propaganda you can parrot? The need for unions will never end. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the need derives from human nature, which never changes. If management can gain an advantage, they WILL...every fucking time. Why are you turds so ignorant about how this world works? Are you THAT naive?

Unions don't create the top wage, they secure a bottom wage. Any company can hire away a worker who is desirable, by paying him more.
 
If unions are dead, then the middle class is too! Unions are what gave the USA a strong middle class, and the living wage. I feel sorry for the future workers.
Yurt is on your ignore list and so are his groans, thank the goddess!
 
Yurt is on your ignore list and so are his groans, thank the goddess!

right little coward. then how did you know i groaned you and i posted in response to you? i know mott thinks you're couragous, but you're not. you're a coward. i pm'd about my aunt who has cancer and you turned around and shit on that. i will never trust you again. you are nothing but a hate monger. you can't hide behind your cancer in order to spread hate.
 
right little coward. then how did you know i groaned you and i posted in response to you? i know mott thinks you're couragous, but you're not. you're a coward. i pm'd about my aunt who has cancer and you turned around and shit on that. i will never trust you again. you are nothing but a hate monger. you can't hide behind your cancer in order to spread hate.

What a flipping retard you are. You can still see groans, you just don't get notified.
 
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