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Makes the ganglia twitch.
Here are the American Taliban contingent.

Meet The Right-Wing Extremist Behind Anti-Muslim Film That Sparked Deadly Riots
On 09.12.12, By Max

"Innocence of Muslims" consultant Steve Klein is a veteran anti-Muslim organizer with close ties to the Christian right in California
The US Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and three US diplomats were killed in attacks and rioting provoked by an obscure, low-budget anti-Muslim film called “The Innocence of Muslims.” The producer of the film is a real estate developer supposedly named “Sam Bacile” who claims to be an Israeli Jew. Bacile told the AP the film was made with $5 million raised from “100 Jewish donors.” He said he was motivated to help his native country, Israel, by exposing the evils of Islam.

While Bacile claims to be in hiding, and his identity remains murky, another character who has been publicly listed as a consultant on the film is a known anti-Muslim activist with ties to the extreme Christian right and the militia movement. He is Steve Klein, a Hemet, California based insurance salesman who claims to have led a “hunter-killer team” in Vietnam.”

Klein is a right-wing extremist who emerged from the same axis of Islamophobia that produced Anders Behring Breivik and which takes inspiration from the writings of Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, and Daniel Pipes.

It appears Klein (or someone who shares his name and views) is an enthusiastic commenter on Geller’s website, Atlas Shrugged, where he recently complained about Mitt Romney’s “support for a Muslim state in Israel’s Heartland.” In July 2011, Spencer’s website, Jihad Watch, promoted a rally Klein organized alongside the anti-Muslim Coptic extremist Joseph Nasrallah to demand the firing of LA County Sheriff Lee Baca, whom they painted as a dupe for Hamas.

Klein is also closely affiliated with the Christian right in California, organizing resentment against all the usual targets — Muslims, homosexuals, feminists, and even Mormons. He is a board member and founder of a group called Courageous Christians United, which promotes anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic and anti-Muslim literature (including the work of Robert Spencer) on its website. In 2002, Klein ran for the California Insurance Commissioner under the American Independent Party, an extremist fringe party linked to the militia movement, garnering a piddling 2 percent of the vote.

Klein has been closely affiliated with the Church at Kaweah, an extreme evangelical church located 70 miles southeast of Fresno that serves as a nexus of neo-Confederate, Christian Reconstructionist, and militia movement elements. The Southern Poverty Law Center produced a report on Kaweah this spring that noted Klein’s long record of activist against Muslims:

Over the past year, Johnson and the church militia have developed a relationship with Steve Klein, a longtime religious-right activist who brags about having led a “hunter killer” team as a Marine in Vietnam. Klein, who calls Islam a “penis-driven religion” and thinks Los Angeles Sheriff Lee Baca is a Muslim Brotherhood patsy, is allied with Christian activist groups across California. In 2011, as head of the Concerned Citizens for the First Amendment, he worked with the Vista, Calif.-based Christian Anti-Defamation Commission on a campaign to “arm” students with the “truth about Islam and Muhammad” — mainly by leafleting high schools with literature depicting the Prophet Mohammed as a sex-crazed pedophile.

Klein, based in Hemet, Calif., has been active in extremist movements for decades. In 1977, he founded Courageous Christians United, which now conducts “respectful confrontations” outside of abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques. Klein also has ties to the Minuteman movement. In 2007, he sued the city of San Clemente for ordering him to stop leafleting cars with pamphlets opposing illegal immigration.
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Like many other activists who fashion themselves as “counter-Jihadists,” Klein has organized against the construction of mosques in his area. While leafleting against a planned mosque in Temecula, California, which he claimed would herald the introduction of Shariah law to the quiet suburb, Klein remarked, “It all comes down to the first amendment. I don’t care if you disagree with me. Just don’t cut off my head.”

Klein appears to be allied with the National American Coptic Assembly, a radical Islamophobic group headed by Morris Sadik. Sadik claims to have discovered the film and began promoting it online. Once it went viral, the trailer was translated into Arabic, sparking outrage in the Middle East, and ultimately, to the deadly attacks carried out by Muslim extremists today.

Klein claims credit for inspiring “Sam Bacile” to produce “The Innocence of Muslims,” promising him he would be “the next Theo Van Gogh,” referring to the Dutch columnist who was murdered by a Muslim extremist. Of the attacks in Libya, Klein said, “We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen.”

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I think these people are aiding the enemy and four people are dead because they were useful fools and assholes.
 
you're kidding me...you're blaming this guy for other people murdering americans?

you should support his right to produce such speech in this country.
 
No I'm not. I'm saying that these groups of hate filled people and their vile campaign are useful to our enemies.
 
A California-based property developer who claims to be responsible for "Innocence of Muslims," a provocative film about the Prophet Muhammad, which sparked Tuesday's deadly attack on the U.S. mission in Libya and further protests in Egypt, has gone into hiding, The Associated Press reported.


The Wall Street Journal reported the film had been promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously sparked deadly riots in Pakistan and other Muslim nations.


Although it was posted to YouTube in 2011, the film only attracted attention in the Middle East after an unknown contributor dubbed it into Egyptian Arabic.


A statement on the pastor's political website, posted late Tuesday, said it would be re-broadcasting the trailer for the film as part of a day-long 'International Judge Mohammad Day' in which it subjected the Muslim prophet to a mock trial for "promoting murder, rape, and destruction of people and property through his writings called the Koran."




 
Haiku said:
No I'm not. I'm saying that these groups of hate filled people and their vile campaign are useful to our enemies.
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how so? by going on a murderous rampages these 'enemies' only serve to prove his point and hopefully put a wedge between our 'enemies' and most muslims.

do you believe that speech against the catholic church or any other christian church should be banned? there has been some vile stuff created in the name of art etc...slamming jesus and christianity.
 
Is this why righties like Pastor Jones?


[video=youtube;INiK22rbkrc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=INiK22rbkrc[/video]
 
Yeah, those Right-Wing Anti-Muslim Extremists are flying planes into buildings and bombing passenger planes, hijacking ships, putting explosive vest on their children and cutting off
heads all over the world.....
 
Haiku said:
Here are the American Taliban contingent.



I think these people are aiding the enemy and four people are dead because they were useful fools and assholes.
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Well except for the point that both State and the administration has said that the video was only an excuse for well planned attack. Shesh, if you weren't real, we'd have to make you up.
 
Mitt Romney’s campaign to make the world safe for anti-Muslim hate speech breaks new ground for a presidential nominee.



But why won’t the former governor of Massachusetts take his brand of audacious truth-telling to its logical conclusion?



President Obama, or at least his State Department, is “apologizing” for the video that makes the prophet Muhammad out to be a cretinous, bed-hopping party fool — so says Romney.



So why wouldn’t Romney (who has twice affirmed his critique of the administration) triple-down — with a more explicit endorsement of the talented artists who put together the 14-minute “Innocence of the Muslims.”




I’m recommending, of course, a joint rally featuring Christian Pastor Terry Jones and his proxy, former Massachusetts Gov. Romney.



Jones could talk about why it’s so important to show that Muhammad has sexual designs on any warm object that isn’t bolted to the ground. And Mitt of Massachusetts could talk about why it’s so important to protect the right of Americans to don silly beards and costumes to dramatize such views.




Because, as the Republican nominee already proved, there is no tragedy or delicate foreign policy dilemma that can’t be melded and recast to fit one’s hothouse world view.



There’s no way an American leader (or, more precisely, diplomatic employees working under extremely trying circumstances in a dangerous young nation) could both loathe Muslim extremists and urge Americans not to unnecessarily goad those extremists.



There’s no way, in short, that diplomats can employ any measure of diplomacy.



That, as Gov. Romney made clear, would send a “mixed message.”



So the Republican standard-bearer now should wholly own his position.



With Pastor Jones conveniently based in Florida, Romney wouldn’t even have to stray from a battleground state to stage their joint rally.




In appreciation, the God-fearing pastor would probably even throw in a Koran burning.






http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-mitt-romney-pastor-jones-20120912,0,884310.story
 
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Mitt Romney’s campaign to make the world safe for anti-Muslim hate speech breaks new ground for a presidential nominee.



But why won’t the former governor of Massachusetts take his brand of audacious truth-telling to its logical conclusion?



President Obama, or at least his State Department, is “apologizing” for the video that makes the prophet Muhammad out to be a cretinous, bed-hopping party fool — so says Romney.



So why wouldn’t Romney (who has twice affirmed his critique of the administration) triple-down — with a more explicit endorsement of the talented artists who put together the 14-minute “Innocence of the Muslims.”




I’m recommending, of course, a joint rally featuring Christian Pastor Terry Jones and his proxy, former Massachusetts Gov. Romney.



Jones could talk about why it’s so important to show that Muhammad has sexual designs on any warm object that isn’t bolted to the ground. And Mitt of Massachusetts could talk about why it’s so important to protect the right of Americans to don silly beards and costumes to dramatize such views.




Because, as the Republican nominee already proved, there is no tragedy or delicate foreign policy dilemma that can’t be melded and recast to fit one’s hothouse world view.



There’s no way an American leader (or, more precisely, diplomatic employees working under extremely trying circumstances in a dangerous young nation) could both loathe Muslim extremists and urge Americans not to unnecessarily goad those extremists.



There’s no way, in short, that diplomats can employ any measure of diplomacy.



That, as Gov. Romney made clear, would send a “mixed message.”



So the Republican standard-bearer now should wholly own his position.



With Pastor Jones conveniently based in Florida, Romney wouldn’t even have to stray from a battleground state to stage their joint rally.




In appreciation, the God-fearing pastor would probably even throw in a Koran burning.






http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-mitt-romney-pastor-jones-20120912,0,884310.story
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Stream of consciousness?
 
bravo said:
Yeah, those Right-Wing Anti-Muslim Extremists are flying planes into buildings and bombing passenger planes, hijacking ships, putting explosive vest on their children and cutting off
heads all over the world.....
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There is plenty of violence done by these people.
 
Annie said:
Well except for the point that both State and the administration has said that the video was only an excuse for well planned attack. Shesh, if you weren't real, we'd have to make you up.
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Which means what exactly...who's to say how this was coordinated without access to inside information...it sure seems very convenient to me. These hate mongers are useful to our enemies and a real danger to our citizens. The first person killed in America after 9/11 was a Sikh because the ignorant bastards thought only Arabs wear turbans. How many mosques have been attacked...this is hate pure and simple and useful. They make all of us, including our armed forces, less safe.

I don't think you're real.
 
Two points.
Neither side in this is innocent. The US should now do two things. First it should bring the makers and promoters of this film (which incidentally looks as if it was made by a group of mates from the pub in someone's back garden, to public justice as accessories before the fact in the Murder of four people. Secondly the US should demand that the Libyans hand over the ringleaders of the atrocity for full international trial on charges of first degree murder.
No further discussion should be necessary.
 
Lowaicue said:
Two points.
Neither side in this is innocent. The US should now do two things. First it should bring the makers and promoters of this film (which incidentally looks as if it was made by a group of mates from the pub in someone's back garden, to public justice as accessories before the fact in the Murder of four people. Secondly the US should demand that the Libyans hand over the ringleaders of the atrocity for full international trial on charges of first degree murder.
No further discussion should be necessary.
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That might make sense if the video was the actual cause, but it was only the excuse. 9/11 was the reason, good call from the Islamacists.
 
Hate speech against abortion doctors, clinics etc. along with publishing their personal information was not instrumental in their deaths...riiiiight. The radical rights twisted view of the world is on display ^^^^^

Lowaicue if only something that rational would happen but these hate mongers think their 1st amendment rights protects them from any accountability. For all we know our enemies produced that ridiculous piece of film trash.
 
Lowaicue said:
Two points.
Neither side in this is innocent. The US should now do two things. First it should bring the makers and promoters of this film (which incidentally looks as if it was made by a group of mates from the pub in someone's back garden, to public justice as accessories before the fact in the Murder of four people. Secondly the US should demand that the Libyans hand over the ringleaders of the atrocity for full international trial on charges of first degree murder.
No further discussion should be necessary.
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Public justice for what? What crime did the makers of the film commit? Cite the statute with a link please
 
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