George Floyd. Alternative Insights

Earl

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Subject: Alternative insights

A couple of different insights into the George Floyd controversy.....

> 9 June 2020

> The article below was in the Brisbane Courier Mail newspaper this morning by veteran reporter Mike O'Connor.

>" WITH a gun held at her stomach, the pregnant woman very likely thought that she and her unborn child were about to die. She watched, terrified, as the gunman’s five accomplices ransacked her home looking for money and drugs. Finding neither, they fled, taking her mobile phone and wallet.

> The man with the gun was George Floyd. He was later arrested and sentenced to five years in jail, adding another chapter to a lengthy criminal history, which included drug offences and armed theft. This is the man now being hailed as a martyr to the cause of civil rights, a low-life drug-using criminal with scant regard for the lives of others, who when he died, was high on fentanyl and methamphetamine.

> There is no excuse for the manner of his death, but before the hordes of local virtue signallers start organising another illegal protest march, a little perspective as provided by American black activist Candace Owens might be helpful.

> “We are the only community that fights and screams and demands justice for the people in our community that are up to no good,” she says in an online posting. “It has become fashionable for us to turn criminals into heroes. George Floyd was not an amazing person. Everyone is saying that this man lived a heroic lifestyle and he didn’t.
> “I will not be part of the broken black culture that wants to martyr black criminals and make them out to be outstanding human beings.”

> Owens maintains that racially motivated police brutality in the United States is a myth, saying that a violent white criminal has a 25 per cent higher chance of dying at the hands of a police officer than do violent black criminals. “Last year a total of nine unarmed black men were killed by police officers while 19 white men were killed by police. White people represent 60 per cent of the population and black people only 13 per cent, but it doesn’t matter what percentage of the population you represent, it matters what percentage of the violent criminal community you represent and unfortunately the black community commits a disproportionate amount of crime compared to the white community. “The 6 per cent of the population who are black men commit 44 per cent of the murders in this country, according to 2018 statistics. We commit 50 per cent of all violent offences and we are 13 per cent of the population,” Owens says.

> She says that police officers have more to fear from the black community than the other way around with a police officer being 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by a police officer. Owens dismisses the entire narrative of racially motivated violence by police as “complete smoke and mirrors”.

> “It’s all made up. It’s white versus black because it’s an election year and not because black Americans are suffering at the hands of police officers more than white Americans.
>
> “Do some police officers do the wrong things? Yes, but I am not going to stand for this bottom-feeding narrative of martyring people who have had five, six or seven stints in prison. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of having to pretend. It’s embarrassing,” she says.
> Owens takes aim at what she describes as a toxic culture permeating the black community.

> “That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim. It’s so easy to ask white people to bow down and apologise to us. It’s crap, it’s a fake, it’s a farce. Our biggest problem is us. It’s why we don’t talk about it when black-on-black violence happens.
> “We don’t talk about it when black people are being slaughtered by blacks because that would mean we’d have to be accountable. That would mean personal responsibility and we don’t do personal responsibility. We blame white people. We only point a camera at white people when they do something, even though we do it at a far higher rate to ourselves.

> “How difficult is it not to spend multiple times in prison? Is that too difficult for us?” she asks.
> “We have to do better. We have to teach our kids to do better,” she says.

> This is not what the people who demonstrated in King George Square on the weekend want to hear. They want to embrace the “white versus black” narrative, march and chant and then go back home and tell themselves what a great job they’ve done striking a blow for equality.

> Here’s a thought. How about having a march next weekend protesting at the violence and sexual assaults perpetrated on Aboriginal children by other indigenous people? Let’s protest about the poor or non-existent parenting in indigenous communities that sees kids fail to attend school and so get a chance at a better life. Hold that protest and I’ll march with you, but I’m not holding my breath. That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim."
Brisbane Courier Mail
 
Subject: Alternative insights

A couple of different insights into the George Floyd controversy.....

> 9 June 2020

> The article below was in the Brisbane Courier Mail newspaper this morning by veteran reporter Mike O'Connor.

>" WITH a gun held at her stomach, the pregnant woman very likely thought that she and her unborn child were about to die. She watched, terrified, as the gunman’s five accomplices ransacked her home looking for money and drugs. Finding neither, they fled, taking her mobile phone and wallet.

> The man with the gun was George Floyd. He was later arrested and sentenced to five years in jail, adding another chapter to a lengthy criminal history, which included drug offences and armed theft. This is the man now being hailed as a martyr to the cause of civil rights, a low-life drug-using criminal with scant regard for the lives of others, who when he died, was high on fentanyl and methamphetamine.

> There is no excuse for the manner of his death, but before the hordes of local virtue signallers start organising another illegal protest march, a little perspective as provided by American black activist Candace Owens might be helpful.

> “We are the only community that fights and screams and demands justice for the people in our community that are up to no good,” she says in an online posting. “It has become fashionable for us to turn criminals into heroes. George Floyd was not an amazing person. Everyone is saying that this man lived a heroic lifestyle and he didn’t.
> “I will not be part of the broken black culture that wants to martyr black criminals and make them out to be outstanding human beings.”

> Owens maintains that racially motivated police brutality in the United States is a myth, saying that a violent white criminal has a 25 per cent higher chance of dying at the hands of a police officer than do violent black criminals. “Last year a total of nine unarmed black men were killed by police officers while 19 white men were killed by police. White people represent 60 per cent of the population and black people only 13 per cent, but it doesn’t matter what percentage of the population you represent, it matters what percentage of the violent criminal community you represent and unfortunately the black community commits a disproportionate amount of crime compared to the white community. “The 6 per cent of the population who are black men commit 44 per cent of the murders in this country, according to 2018 statistics. We commit 50 per cent of all violent offences and we are 13 per cent of the population,” Owens says.

> She says that police officers have more to fear from the black community than the other way around with a police officer being 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by a police officer. Owens dismisses the entire narrative of racially motivated violence by police as “complete smoke and mirrors”.

> “It’s all made up. It’s white versus black because it’s an election year and not because black Americans are suffering at the hands of police officers more than white Americans.
>
> “Do some police officers do the wrong things? Yes, but I am not going to stand for this bottom-feeding narrative of martyring people who have had five, six or seven stints in prison. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of having to pretend. It’s embarrassing,” she says.
> Owens takes aim at what she describes as a toxic culture permeating the black community.

> “That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim. It’s so easy to ask white people to bow down and apologise to us. It’s crap, it’s a fake, it’s a farce. Our biggest problem is us. It’s why we don’t talk about it when black-on-black violence happens.
> “We don’t talk about it when black people are being slaughtered by blacks because that would mean we’d have to be accountable. That would mean personal responsibility and we don’t do personal responsibility. We blame white people. We only point a camera at white people when they do something, even though we do it at a far higher rate to ourselves.

> “How difficult is it not to spend multiple times in prison? Is that too difficult for us?” she asks.
> “We have to do better. We have to teach our kids to do better,” she says.

> This is not what the people who demonstrated in King George Square on the weekend want to hear. They want to embrace the “white versus black” narrative, march and chant and then go back home and tell themselves what a great job they’ve done striking a blow for equality.

> Here’s a thought. How about having a march next weekend protesting at the violence and sexual assaults perpetrated on Aboriginal children by other indigenous people? Let’s protest about the poor or non-existent parenting in indigenous communities that sees kids fail to attend school and so get a chance at a better life. Hold that protest and I’ll march with you, but I’m not holding my breath. That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim."
Brisbane Courier Mail

Dayum.
 
The issue is the Cop standing on Floyd's neck when he is already handcuffed and laying on the ground. THAT is the issue.
 
> “That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim. It’s so easy to ask white people to bow down and apologise to us. It’s crap, it’s a fake, it’s a farce. Our biggest problem is us. It’s why we don’t talk about it when black-on-black violence happens.
> “We don’t talk about it when black people are being slaughtered by blacks because that would mean we’d have to be accountable. That would mean personal responsibility and we don’t do personal responsibility. We blame white people. We only point a camera at white people when they do something, even though we do it at a far higher rate to ourselves. [Owens]
____________

Well JPP white wokies?

What do you say to the black woman? Says she embarrassed, as a black person, by all of this.
 
The issue is the Cop standing on Floyd's neck when he is already handcuffed and laying on the ground. THAT is the issue.

Why are they withholding the bodycam evidence? Is it because it shows a totally different picture of Gentle George? Pretty obvious to me that the Dems want a show trial running up to the election and won't release it before then.
 
Why are they withholding the bodycam evidence? Is it because it shows a totally different picture of Gentle George? Pretty obvious to me that the Dems want a show trial running up to the election and won't release it before then.

The --->Democrats<--- are withholding the 'bodycam evidence'?
 
Why are they withholding the bodycam evidence? Is it because it shows a totally different picture of Gentle George? Pretty obvious to me that the Dems want a show trial running up to the election and won't release it before then.

Apparently, you're promoting Gestapo style justice.
 
Subject: Alternative insights

A couple of different insights into the George Floyd controversy.....

> 9 June 2020

> The article below was in the Brisbane Courier Mail newspaper this morning by veteran reporter Mike O'Connor.

>" WITH a gun held at her stomach, the pregnant woman very likely thought that she and her unborn child were about to die. She watched, terrified, as the gunman’s five accomplices ransacked her home looking for money and drugs. Finding neither, they fled, taking her mobile phone and wallet.

> The man with the gun was George Floyd. He was later arrested and sentenced to five years in jail, adding another chapter to a lengthy criminal history, which included drug offences and armed theft. This is the man now being hailed as a martyr to the cause of civil rights, a low-life drug-using criminal with scant regard for the lives of others, who when he died, was high on fentanyl and methamphetamine.

> There is no excuse for the manner of his death, but before the hordes of local virtue signallers start organising another illegal protest march, a little perspective as provided by American black activist Candace Owens might be helpful.

> “We are the only community that fights and screams and demands justice for the people in our community that are up to no good,” she says in an online posting. “It has become fashionable for us to turn criminals into heroes. George Floyd was not an amazing person. Everyone is saying that this man lived a heroic lifestyle and he didn’t.
> “I will not be part of the broken black culture that wants to martyr black criminals and make them out to be outstanding human beings.”

> Owens maintains that racially motivated police brutality in the United States is a myth, saying that a violent white criminal has a 25 per cent higher chance of dying at the hands of a police officer than do violent black criminals. “Last year a total of nine unarmed black men were killed by police officers while 19 white men were killed by police. White people represent 60 per cent of the population and black people only 13 per cent, but it doesn’t matter what percentage of the population you represent, it matters what percentage of the violent criminal community you represent and unfortunately the black community commits a disproportionate amount of crime compared to the white community. “The 6 per cent of the population who are black men commit 44 per cent of the murders in this country, according to 2018 statistics. We commit 50 per cent of all violent offences and we are 13 per cent of the population,” Owens says.

> She says that police officers have more to fear from the black community than the other way around with a police officer being 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by a police officer. Owens dismisses the entire narrative of racially motivated violence by police as “complete smoke and mirrors”.

> “It’s all made up. It’s white versus black because it’s an election year and not because black Americans are suffering at the hands of police officers more than white Americans.
>
> “Do some police officers do the wrong things? Yes, but I am not going to stand for this bottom-feeding narrative of martyring people who have had five, six or seven stints in prison. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of having to pretend. It’s embarrassing,” she says.
> Owens takes aim at what she describes as a toxic culture permeating the black community.

> “That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim. It’s so easy to ask white people to bow down and apologise to us. It’s crap, it’s a fake, it’s a farce. Our biggest problem is us. It’s why we don’t talk about it when black-on-black violence happens.
> “We don’t talk about it when black people are being slaughtered by blacks because that would mean we’d have to be accountable. That would mean personal responsibility and we don’t do personal responsibility. We blame white people. We only point a camera at white people when they do something, even though we do it at a far higher rate to ourselves.

> “How difficult is it not to spend multiple times in prison? Is that too difficult for us?” she asks.
> “We have to do better. We have to teach our kids to do better,” she says.

> This is not what the people who demonstrated in King George Square on the weekend want to hear. They want to embrace the “white versus black” narrative, march and chant and then go back home and tell themselves what a great job they’ve done striking a blow for equality.

> Here’s a thought. How about having a march next weekend protesting at the violence and sexual assaults perpetrated on Aboriginal children by other indigenous people? Let’s protest about the poor or non-existent parenting in indigenous communities that sees kids fail to attend school and so get a chance at a better life. Hold that protest and I’ll march with you, but I’m not holding my breath. That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim."
Brisbane Courier Mail

Earl, should a police officer be judge, jury, and executioner????
 
No, the police officer should be able to go home alive at the end of the day, just like everyone else.

What was the threat?George was handcuffed,4 cops one with his knee on his neck.
The only one that didn't go home was George.
Because the cop murdered him in broad daylight in front of witnesses.
 
Why are they withholding the bodycam evidence? Is it because it shows a totally different picture of Gentle George? Pretty obvious to me that the Dems want a show trial running up to the election and won't release it before then.

George being a criminal is completely beside the issue. Bringing up his crimes and saying "Dems" a lot is just #deflection.
 
Subject: Alternative insights

A couple of different insights into the George Floyd controversy.....

> 9 June 2020

> The article below was in the Brisbane Courier Mail newspaper this morning by veteran reporter Mike O'Connor.

>" WITH a gun held at her stomach, the pregnant woman very likely thought that she and her unborn child were about to die. She watched, terrified, as the gunman’s five accomplices ransacked her home looking for money and drugs. Finding neither, they fled, taking her mobile phone and wallet.

> The man with the gun was George Floyd. He was later arrested and sentenced to five years in jail, adding another chapter to a lengthy criminal history, which included drug offences and armed theft. This is the man now being hailed as a martyr to the cause of civil rights, a low-life drug-using criminal with scant regard for the lives of others, who when he died, was high on fentanyl and methamphetamine.

> There is no excuse for the manner of his death, but before the hordes of local virtue signallers start organising another illegal protest march, a little perspective as provided by American black activist Candace Owens might be helpful.

> “We are the only community that fights and screams and demands justice for the people in our community that are up to no good,” she says in an online posting. “It has become fashionable for us to turn criminals into heroes. George Floyd was not an amazing person. Everyone is saying that this man lived a heroic lifestyle and he didn’t.
> “I will not be part of the broken black culture that wants to martyr black criminals and make them out to be outstanding human beings.”

> Owens maintains that racially motivated police brutality in the United States is a myth, saying that a violent white criminal has a 25 per cent higher chance of dying at the hands of a police officer than do violent black criminals. “Last year a total of nine unarmed black men were killed by police officers while 19 white men were killed by police. White people represent 60 per cent of the population and black people only 13 per cent, but it doesn’t matter what percentage of the population you represent, it matters what percentage of the violent criminal community you represent and unfortunately the black community commits a disproportionate amount of crime compared to the white community. “The 6 per cent of the population who are black men commit 44 per cent of the murders in this country, according to 2018 statistics. We commit 50 per cent of all violent offences and we are 13 per cent of the population,” Owens says.

> She says that police officers have more to fear from the black community than the other way around with a police officer being 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by a police officer. Owens dismisses the entire narrative of racially motivated violence by police as “complete smoke and mirrors”.

> “It’s all made up. It’s white versus black because it’s an election year and not because black Americans are suffering at the hands of police officers more than white Americans.
>
> “Do some police officers do the wrong things? Yes, but I am not going to stand for this bottom-feeding narrative of martyring people who have had five, six or seven stints in prison. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of having to pretend. It’s embarrassing,” she says.
> Owens takes aim at what she describes as a toxic culture permeating the black community.

> “That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim. It’s so easy to ask white people to bow down and apologise to us. It’s crap, it’s a fake, it’s a farce. Our biggest problem is us. It’s why we don’t talk about it when black-on-black violence happens.
> “We don’t talk about it when black people are being slaughtered by blacks because that would mean we’d have to be accountable. That would mean personal responsibility and we don’t do personal responsibility. We blame white people. We only point a camera at white people when they do something, even though we do it at a far higher rate to ourselves.

> “How difficult is it not to spend multiple times in prison? Is that too difficult for us?” she asks.
> “We have to do better. We have to teach our kids to do better,” she says.

> This is not what the people who demonstrated in King George Square on the weekend want to hear. They want to embrace the “white versus black” narrative, march and chant and then go back home and tell themselves what a great job they’ve done striking a blow for equality.

> Here’s a thought. How about having a march next weekend protesting at the violence and sexual assaults perpetrated on Aboriginal children by other indigenous people? Let’s protest about the poor or non-existent parenting in indigenous communities that sees kids fail to attend school and so get a chance at a better life. Hold that protest and I’ll march with you, but I’m not holding my breath. That’s because nobody wants to tell the truth in black America. It’s so easy to be a victim."
Brisbane Courier Mail

Earl
Do you live or work in a medium to large metropolitan area? Do you know or work with people of color? Have you ever asked they for their experiences dealing with cops? I bet if you do you will find that black people are treated with more suspicion than whites. You will find this FB! spread sheet very telling.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

Which shows that whites commit 69.6% of all crimes and blacks 26.9%. Based on those facts alone blacks are disproportionally shot by cops.
 
Earl
Do you live or work in a medium to large metropolitan area? Do you know or work with people of color? Have you ever asked they for their experiences dealing with cops? I bet if you do you will find that black people are treated with more suspicion than whites. You will find this FB! spread sheet very telling.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

Which shows that whites commit 69.6% of all crimes and blacks 26.9%. Based on those facts alone blacks are disproportionally shot by cops.

Black men, who comprise 7% of the population, commit nearly half of all murders!
 
Earl
Do you live or work in a medium to large metropolitan area? Do you know or work with people of color? Have you ever asked they for their experiences dealing with cops? I bet if you do you will find that black people are treated with more suspicion than whites. You will find this FB! spread sheet very telling.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

Which shows that whites commit 69.6% of all crimes and blacks 26.9%. Based on those facts alone blacks are disproportionally shot by cops.

Blacks are 13% of the population and commit 51% of violent crime.

I am retired...FAA...ATL TWR. and I had several black employees that I supervised. Good men who moved tin, not discuss race relations.

I have lived in the South my entire life excepting four years overseas.

You don't need to lecture me about Blacks and the South.
 
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