Geraldine Ferarro: Obama is Lucky he is black.

[Socrtease]

excerpt from the whole story at:http://www.dailybreeze.com/lifeandculture/ci_8489268

"I'm on Hillary's finance committee. I've done a fundraiser for her here at my firm. And I went and worked the phone banks before Super Tuesday. I have to tell you, this is a very emotional campaign for me," Ferraro said.

When the subject turned to Obama, Clinton's rival for the Democratic Party nomination, Ferraro's comments took on a decidedly bitter edge.

"I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign - to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against," she said. "For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," she continued. "And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept." Ferraro does not buy the notion of Obama as the great reconciler.

Cause it is soooooo easy to be a black man. Everyday I get up and say "oh lord why did you make me a white male in America? Do you know how hard it is be the beneficiary of the the most priviledged position on earth. How hard it is to make more money on average than ANY OTHER RACE AND GENDER in america. Lord please relieve me of this burden and strike this whiteness down and make me black."

 

[Blackflag]

Lol the Hillary wing of the Democratic party gets funnier every day.

 

[Onceler]

Once again, a lot of good reputations are going down the tubes w/ the Clintons.

She also wrote an editorial the other day about how superdelegates not only shouldn't hesitate to overturn the decision of the elected delegates, but that they had a duty to do so if the circumstances called for it (she was part of the committee that invented superdelegates; it was basically her idea, from the sounds of it).

I wonder if she thinks Hillary would be a nominee - of if anyone would have even heard of her - if she hadn't been married to Bill Clinton?

 

[evince]

I think its really fucking cool that it is a plus for him in the election. Its about time for it to be considered a plus to have black heritage.

 

[Topspin]

geraldine was probably hoping for a position.
I think Clinton is really adding comedic value big time at this point.
She tossed up a slow under hand meatball with the VP comment and Obama went Barry Bonds on that pitch "since when does somebody in second place offer the VP". LOFL that was priceless. And SNL's skit with Obama calling her about the heating in the WH was redonkoulussly funny

 

[Cypress]

excerpt from the whole story at:http://www.dailybreeze.com/lifeandculture/ci_8489268

Cause it is soooooo easy to be a black man. Everyday I get up and say "oh lord why did you make me a white male in America? Do you know how hard it is be the beneficiary of the the most priviledged position on earth. How hard it is to make more money on average than ANY OTHER RACE AND GENDER in america. Lord please relieve me of this burden and strike this whiteness down and make me black."

Ferraro: what an @sshole.

 

[LadyT]

Has anyone else noticed that pubs on this site have been relatively quiet lately. I definitely feel like we've been expressing our disgust with democrats more so than they have recently.

I can't remember any time when conservatives (who are mainly apologists) collectively were critical about republicans.

 

[Onceler]

Has anyone else noticed that pubs on this site have been relatively quiet lately. I definitely feel like we've been expressing our disgust with democrats more so than they have recently.

I can't remember any time when conservatives (who are mainly apologists) collectively were critical about republicans.

It's only about what they perceive as "small" stuff...hey, I disagree with Bush on stem cell research! (not small to me, but it is to them).

On any big issues or personalities, there is much more of a lockstep mentality on the right, and there always has been. I hate to generalize, but if you've ever traveled to a red state, it's much more about conformity, even conformity of opinion. I thought the Dixie Chicks boycott was a prime example of that; it was a boycott organized solely to silence an opinion that people disagreed with.

 

[Cancel7]

It's only about what they perceive as "small" stuff...hey, I disagree with Bush on stem cell research! (not small to me, but it is to them).

On any big issues or personalities, there is much more of a lockstep mentality on the right, and there always has been. I hate to generalize, but if you've ever traveled to a red state, it's much more about conformity, even conformity of opinion. I thought the Dixie Chicks boycott was a prime example of that; it was a boycott organized solely to silence an opinion that people disagreed with.

Well written. I usually just say that Republicans love to be told what to do.

They make excellent order-takers.

 

[Cypress]

Has anyone else noticed that pubs on this site have been relatively quiet lately. I definitely feel like we've been expressing our disgust with democrats more so than they have recently.

I can't remember any time when conservatives (who are mainly apologists) collectively were critical about republicans.

I didn't see hardly any "outrage" from republicans, about the myriad of GOP sexual hyporisy, let alone calls for their resignation.

They don't even like their own candidate, Grandpa McCain. I think they've mostly been reduced to responding with "Democrats did it too!" to any post pertaining to the failure of republican policies

 

[Epicurus]

It's only about what they perceive as "small" stuff...hey, I disagree with Bush on stem cell research! (not small to me, but it is to them).

On any big issues or personalities, there is much more of a lockstep mentality on the right, and there always has been. I hate to generalize, but if you've ever traveled to a red state, it's much more about conformity, even conformity of opinion. I thought the Dixie Chicks boycott was a prime example of that; it was a boycott organized solely to silence an opinion that people disagreed with.

Boycotts don't bother me. People have a right to boycott companies or individuals that they disagree with. It's one of the more effective means of protest no matter who uses it.

And I do think there is more uniformity in the right, but the left walks very lockstep as well.

 

[Epicurus]

I didn't see hardly any "outrage" from republicans, about the myriad of GOP sexual hyporisy, let alone calls for their resignation.

They don't even like their own candidate, Grandpa McCain. I think they've mostly been reduced to responding with "Democrats did it too!" to any post pertaining to the failure of republican policies

So now Republicans both "Don't like their nominee" and "Are never critical of Republicans".

A world of contradictions.

 

[Onceler]

"Boycotts don't bother me. People have a right to boycott companies or individuals that they disagree with. It's one of the more effective means of protest no matter who uses it."

I would never argue that boycotts should not be allowed. I believe in boycotts that are intended to force ACTION (like boycotting a company that chose to do business in S. Africa back in the day).

However, the purpose of the Dixie Chicks boycott was ONLY to silence an opinion that "they didn't like." To me, that is more chilling, and inherently un-American in spirit, since part of what this country was founded on was creating a marketplace of ideas with free speech & the press.

 

[Cypress]

It's only about what they perceive as "small" stuff...hey, I disagree with Bush on stem cell research! (not small to me, but it is to them).

On any big issues or personalities, there is much more of a lockstep mentality on the right, and there always has been. I hate to generalize, but if you've ever traveled to a red state, it's much more about conformity, even conformity of opinion. I thought the Dixie Chicks boycott was a prime example of that; it was a boycott organized solely to silence an opinion that people disagreed with.

It's all about projection too. They are quick to blame their "opponents", for actions they themselves take.

The spitzer case was a classic example. I had to wade through a host of Con posts proclaiming something to the effect "LOL, let's see if Democrats slam spitzer! LOL"....which was then followed by about 800 posts by democrats slamming spitzer. Of course, the GOP has been mainly silent about the hypocrisy and failures of their party leaders. Or, at best, they've mumbled something about "Well, democrats do it too".

Classic projection.

Between the pcyhological projections, and the "taking a rule and drawing a straight line between two data points" to prove a global cooling trend, the debate here with republicans has really ebbed to virtually nothing challenging.

 

[cawacko]

Has anyone else noticed that pubs on this site have been relatively quiet lately. I definitely feel like we've been expressing our disgust with democrats more so than they have recently.

I can't remember any time when conservatives (who are mainly apologists) collectively were critical about republicans.

For one there are a lot more liberals on this site. I think (some) most would agree there is a difference discussing dislike of someone on your 'side' with someone who is on your 'side' than someone who is on the other 'side'.

The obvious big discussion topic has been Obama and Hillary so the focus has been more on the Democratic Party.

I have definite issues with the Republican Party that I find I end up discussing more with my right leaning friends than I do on here.

There was also no Republican candidate that I really supported in the primary. Therefore my interest was quite low. There is obviously a lot of interest from the left in the Democratic Primary.

I had real high hopes for Bush in 2000. He let me down. I don't have much in terms of expectations for McCain. My hope is maybe he surprised a lot of people and makes and excellent President if he is elected.

 

[cawacko]

It's only about what they perceive as "small" stuff...hey, I disagree with Bush on stem cell research! (not small to me, but it is to them).

On any big issues or personalities, there is much more of a lockstep mentality on the right, and there always has been. I hate to generalize, but if you've ever traveled to a red state, it's much more about conformity, even conformity of opinion. I thought the Dixie Chicks boycott was a prime example of that; it was a boycott organized solely to silence an opinion that people disagreed with.

Well I can tell you from experience of living in one of the most blue cities in America conformity is the norm here as well. San Francisco loves to celebrate its diversity but in thought it is pretty much lockstep.

This is not to say red areas aren't the same. Just from my experience it can be the same regardless of political ideology.

 

[cawacko]

"Boycotts don't bother me. People have a right to boycott companies or individuals that they disagree with. It's one of the more effective means of protest no matter who uses it."

I would never argue that boycotts should not be allowed. I believe in boycotts that are intended to force ACTION (like boycotting a company that chose to do business in S. Africa back in the day).

However, the purpose of the Dixie Chicks boycott was ONLY to silence an opinion that "they didn't like." To me, that is more chilling, and inherently un-American in spirit, since part of what this country was founded on was creating a marketplace of ideas with free speech & the press.

Wouldn't that be under you have the freedom to say anything but your words can have consequences? The Dixie Chicks base of support comes from country fans who lean conservative. Well they go overseas (which is what upset a lot of people) and rip Bush. Not a real big surprise that it pissed some people off.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Gee, Hillary, it's rough when the supposedly-unbiased press opposes you and favors somebody else, isn't it?

You're halfway to being a Republican. Welcome to the party!

And with the way the Republican party has been sliding to the left at an ever-increasing rate, they are halfway toward being you. This could be the beginning of a (NOT) beautiful friendship.

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P.S. Ferraro thinks Obama is lucky to be a black man running for office? Where would Hillary be if she weren't a woman?

For one thing, she wouldn't be the wife of a former President. And that means, she'd be absolutely nowhere. She rose to prominence, not through anything she did, but purely by hanging on to Bill's coattails. Her election to the Senate, never would have happened as it did, if she had remained an associate or partner in some law firm in New York or whatever. Basically she hitched herself to the right man, rode his efforts into the public view, and then tried to take over.

At least Obama got elected on his own merits, not his spouse's.

 

[Onceler]

Wouldn't that be under you have the freedom to say anything but your words can have consequences? The Dixie Chicks base of support comes from country fans who lean conservative. Well they go overseas (which is what upset a lot of people) and rip Bush. Not a real big surprise that it pissed some people off.

To me, it's a pathetic exercise of one's free speech to just "try to shut someone up," simply because you disagree with them.

I disagree with Ron Silver & Bo Derek & Arnold Schwarzenneger & Ricky Martin, et al., but it I've watched movies from the actors & actually enjoyed "Livin' La Vita Loca" (guilty pleasure there - hope posting this doesn't come back to haunt me). I'd feel like an idiot if I called for boycotting them simply because I didn't like their political views.

And that's what the people who boycotted the Chicks are: idiots. That's not what America is about.

 

[cawacko]

To me, it's a pathetic exercise of one's free speech to just "try to shut someone up," simply because you disagree with them.

I disagree with Ron Silver & Bo Derek & Arnold Schwarzenneger & Ricky Martin, et al., but it I've watched movies from the actors & actually enjoyed "Livin' La Vita Loca" (guilty pleasure there - hope posting this doesn't come back to haunt me). I'd feel like an idiot if I called for boycotting them simply because I didn't like their political views.

And that's what the people who boycotted the Chicks are: idiots. That's not what America is about.

I guess I view it differently. You can listen to whoever you want or watch whoever you want. If you don't like someone because of the clothes they where, where they come from or their political views that is your right. You aren't forced to support them or buy their products.