Glen Beck regrets being divisive

[007]

oh, 007, I don't hope to ever persuade you. But he has reached out to those with opposing opinions; he hasn't blasted them even when many of us liberals wished he would have; he is very much a uniter.

But again, I assume you will never agree. To those like you, no matter what he does, you will judge it by your own blasted vision and come up with nastiness.

Referring to opponents as " our enemies" is the voice of unity?

How about vote for me!
Then we will take our revenge?

Uniter?
Enemies?
Revenge?
The voice of unity?

 

[Rune]

oh, 007, I don't hope to ever persuade you. But he has reached out to those with opposing opinions; he hasn't blasted them even when many of us liberals wished he would have; he is very much a uniter.

But again, I assume you will never agree. To those like you, no matter what he does, you will judge it by your own blasted vision and come up with nastiness.

Are you aware of the ignore option? You don't even need to see double O moron's lunatic rants.

 

[tekkychick]

Are you aware of the ignore option? You don't even need to see double O moron's lunatic rants.

Excellent point. I haven't yet ignored anyone on this forum. But there are currently four candidates in the running..And perhaps my answer to 007 shows that I do need to ignore them, so I don't get dragged into the muck...

 

[007]

Excellent point. I haven't yet ignored anyone on this forum. But there are currently four candidates in the running..And perhaps my answer to 007 shows that I do need to ignore them, so I don't get dragged into the muck...

What muck is that?
The truth?
Obama is a divider.
Reaching out does not involve, calling opposition parties " our enemies " or ordering government agencies to make life difficult for groups thst support opposing parties.

The vicious attack ads on Romneys family , family not ideas, were reaching out?

A divider!!

Show me the muck?
Disagreeing with you is descending into the muck?

Obama cult type thinking!!

Next you will say I am abusing you for disagreeing with your dogma.

You will likely become threatening and abusive( as uniters of liberalism tend to) likely threatening my kids, my wife.

As liberal uniters do!

 

[007]

Are you aware of the ignore option? You don't even need to see double O moron's lunatic rants.

Translation from fanatical liberal totalitarian;-
Lunatic rant-----the truth.

Vicious abuse of dissidents------ liberalism.

 

[Althea]

No, it was a speech Obama made to one ethnic group in which he constantly made comments like;- "our enemies want to deport illegals" and "our enemies want gun violence".

Using language like that is hardly the language of a Uniter now is it?

He is highly divisive, highly partisan and completely unwilling to compromise, which the lame stream media, MSLSD for example, never tell you.

He gets everything he wants or nothing gets done.
Then he says the other guys are unreasonable and obstructive.

Divider.

Clearly, you're talking about the previous administration. He handed 400 billion in tax cuts to millionaires in exchange for repeal of DADT. He caved to every ploy by the obstructionist republicans in his first term, which cost him dearly in the mid terms.

Obama has been too willing to find common ground with those who have no intention of allowing him to accomplish anything. In fact, much of the ACA has pet republican issues, that they now denounce.

 

[007]

Clearly, you're talking about the previous administration. He handed 400 billion in tax cuts to millionaires in exchange for repeal of DADT. He caved to every ploy by the obstructionist republicans in his first term, which cost him dearly in the mid terms.

Obama has been too willing to find common ground with those who have no intention of allowing him to accomplish anything. In fact, much of the ACA has pet republican issues, that they now denounce.

No I'm talking about Obama.
He refers to pro lifers as"OUR ENEMIES".
He refers to the alleged 1% as "OUR ENEMIES"
He spoke of voting for him and "TAKING REVENGE".
He refers to white people as "OUR ENEMIES".
He refers to gun owners as "THE ENEMY".
He refuses to compromise with " The enemy ".
He gets exactly what he demands and offers nothing in return(the recent tax hike on the wealthy).
Nothing in return.

NB according to Obama the wealthy is every American with a job, they all suffered a tax hike.

Any criticism of his policies is declared racism.

Tell me, how is this indicative of uniting?

Bill Clinton was a Uniter.
Obama is a divider.

 

[007]

Obama has divided this the greatest country.
He stated that intent.
"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world, I hope you will join with me as we try to change it"!!!

He has divided all 57 states!

Even those states that speak Austrian!

He is a divider.

 

[cawacko]

Obama has divided this the greatest country.
He stated that intent.
"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world, I hope you will join with me as we try to change it"!!!

He has divided all 57 states!

Even those states that speak Austrian!

He is a divider.

While I agree that Obama has been a divisive President he did not divide this country. The U.S. has been divided well before he became President. Look at the patterns of people's movement and how we are choosing to live more and more around people who think like us politically.

It is going to take a very unique individual to be able to "unite" this country (outside of some tragic event like 9/11).

 

[Rune]

While I agree that Obama has been a divisive President he did not divide this country. The U.S. has been divided well before he became President. Look at the patterns of people's movement and how we are choosing to live more and more around people who think like us politically.

It is going to take a very unique individual to be able to "unite" this country (outside of some tragic event like 9/11).

Finally a worthwhile comment.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I've only heard a little of Beck over the years but I've just never taken to the guy. I admire his entrepreneurial ability and the money he's earned but he comes across to me as at times principled and making some good points and at times just speaking out of his *ss with the hope of inflaming others to draw attention to himself. I'm just not a fan.

I will say I do find some irony that they interviewed someone from Media Matters. If it weren't for people like Glen Beck Media Matters wouldn't exist. As much as they dislike him I know inside that company they want him to be around and be relevant.



Glenn Beck says he regrets dividing people


A reflective Glenn Beck said Thursday he regrets that some of his fiery opinions caused division in the country over the last several years.

He wasn't fully aware of the perilous times and people "at each other's throats," said the conservative radio host, who accepted a First Amendment award from Talkers magazine, the trade publication for his industry.

The magazine's publisher, Michael Harrison, hailed Beck as "a once-in-a-generation performer in the broadcast arts."

Beck said he was puzzled by activists who organize boycotts of people who say things they disagree with. Beck's popular show on Fox News Channel ended in 2011 after a successful advertiser boycott organized after he said President Barack Obama had "a deep-seated hatred for white people."

Also on the minds of radio executives Thursday was the boycott on Rush Limbaugh's show after he called a law school student "a slut" for advocating funding of birth control.

"For any role that I have played in dividing, I wish I can take them back," Beck said. "I don't wish I could take back the truth that was spoken but perhaps — not perhaps — many times I could have said it differently."

He didn't specify any particular incidents.

To the Talkers convention, Beck brought along a series of props — a Nazi-era German school manual, a napkin said to contain blood stains from Hitler, a copy of the Koran — to buttress his point that Americans need to support the right of people to deliver opinions even if they disagree with them.

"If they tell you to sit down and shut up, it's trouble," he said. "If it's a Republican or Democrat or independent, if it's a Tea Party person or someone from Occupy Wall Street, if they say shut up, it's trouble."

Society only makes progress "when you speak your mind and you challenge each other" and even get angry with each other over differing opinions.

Beck praised CNN and Fox for giving him television shows, and radio networks like Premiere and Clear Channel for supporting free speech.

"If I can find an audience, they'll carry me," he said. "The day I can't find an audience, they should cancel me."

Beck is currently in the midst of a salesmanship effort, trying to convince cable and satellite operators to begin telecasting TheBlaze, the successful online opinion and entertainment network he started after leaving Fox News. The Dish network and Optimum TV already carry Beck's programming.

Angelo Carusone, a vice president at the liberal media advocacy group Media Matters who helped organize the Limbaugh boycott, was at Talkers to listen to Beck's speech and said it didn't surprise him.

"Beck's entire history is a series of booms, busts and rebirths," he said. Now he needs to repair his brand in business circles to support his ventures and the cable distribution campaign, he said.

"Brand repair doesn't happen immediately," Carusone said. "It's a process. Beck knows that. This soft contrition seemed like an attempt to advance that slow process. I'm not sure this will be effective, though, given that his approach hasn't really changed."

Radio executives were curious about how the Limbaugh campaign has affected talk radio's most popular show. Dan Metter, senior vice president of sales at the Premiere Networks, said Limbaugh's advertising sales were better now than they were last year. Metter said Premiere's sales approach has changed; instead of seeking large established advertisers, the sales force is going after smaller entrepreneurs.

Asked for some specifics following a panel appearance, Metter refused comment.


http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Glenn-Beck-says-he-regrets-dividing-people-4584568.php

So in other words Beck and Limbaugh are just cynical opportunist who just feed raw meat to an audience of right wing rednecks to make a buck and now that they've gone too far and alienated advertiser they're tryingto rehabiliate their images. Right?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Is that a sloth?

No. It's Postal Union Employee.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Excellent point. I haven't yet ignored anyone on this forum. But there are currently four candidates in the running..And perhaps my answer to 007 shows that I do need to ignore them, so I don't get dragged into the muck...

I kind of view putting people on ignore as a form of avoiding reality. How are you going to learn what these nut jobs like ought, ought, 7 believe if you put them on ignore? How are you going to learn dissenting views if you put people who believe different than you on ignore? I find that to great of a temptation to be intellectually lazy and dishonest so I have never used the feature.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

While I agree that Obama has been a divisive President he did not divide this country. The U.S. has been divided well before he became President. Look at the patterns of people's movement and how we are choosing to live more and more around people who think like us politically.

It is going to take a very unique individual to be able to "unite" this country (outside of some tragic event like 9/11).

Uhhh...I hate to point out the obvious but with all the rednecks out there how could our nations first black President not be divisive? He could never, ever make an utterance and his mere presence alone in the White House would be divisive to a large segment of the population.

 

[007]

I kind of view putting people on ignore as a form of avoiding reality. How are you going to learn what these nut jobs like ought, ought, 7 believe if you put them on ignore? How are you going to learn dissenting views if you put people who believe different than you on ignore? I find that to great of a temptation to be intellectually lazy and dishonest so I have never used the feature.

So you think referring to people as nut jobs or the enemy are evidence of being a Uniter?

 

[007]

Uhhh...I hate to point out the obvious but with all the rednecks out there how could our nations first black President not be divisive? He could never, ever make an utterance and his mere presence alone in the White House would be divisive to a large segment of the population.

His divisiveness is in what he says, not in his colour.

 

[Red Mule]

No I'm talking about Obama.
He refers to pro lifers as"OUR ENEMIES".
He refers to the alleged 1% as "OUR ENEMIES"
He spoke of voting for him and "TAKING REVENGE".
He refers to white people as "OUR ENEMIES".
He refers to gun owners as "THE ENEMY".
He refuses to compromise with " The enemy ".
He gets exactly what he demands and offers nothing in return(the recent tax hike on the wealthy).
Nothing in return.

NB according to Obama the wealthy is every American with a job, they all suffered a tax hike.

Any criticism of his policies is declared racism.

Tell me, how is this indicative of uniting?

Bill Clinton was a Uniter.
Obama is a divider.

I would be interested in where Obama labeled all those folks as enemies. Do you have any sources for this claim?

As cawacko pointed out, the US has been divided for a very long time - like since the beginning!
The dividing lines have moved and shifted around like a spastic snake, but they have always been here.

If anything, Obama's biggest mistake was thinking (and saying) he could heal the divide and get us all to pull together. That was kind of naive. The people that have almost everything will not give it up without a fight and the people that don't have enough will not stop fighting for a more equitable distribution. The prejudiced will probably take their prejudices to the grave. There is no healing that kind of divide. To try to blame it on Obama is just partisan politics where you try to demonize the other guy. I think any honest analysis would easily show this in not Obama's fault. Even if he suddenly had an change of heart and woke up tomorrow as a conservative, a liberal, or the left-leaning moderate that he is the country would be no less divided.

 

[007]

Here you go.
Spin this one, then we shall address the next.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=riVzMzX4hiE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=riVzMzX4hiE

 

[tekkychick]

I kind of view putting people on ignore as a form of avoiding reality. How are you going to learn what these nut jobs like ought, ought, 7 believe if you put them on ignore? How are you going to learn dissenting views if you put people who believe different than you on ignore? I find that to great of a temptation to be intellectually lazy and dishonest so I have never used the feature.

What I found on the last forum I was on is that there were people that were able to draw me into useless, pointless, nasty back & forth stuff that didn't move the discussion forward, were alienating to others on the forum, and because we ended up repeating the same thing over and over weren't in the least enlightening.

When I put a couple people on ignore there, the quality of my contributions improved. I could "unhide" their comments on a case by case basis in case I thought there was a reason to read it and respond (based on other people's comments)

If I can manage not to get into that same muckhole on this forum while not ignoring anyone, I will. But if I find myself tempted into the same dark morass too often, then I will ignore them.

 

[Topspin]

He regrets not coming out of the closet earlier too!