AProudLefty
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You fell flat on a metal tire.
GLOBAL WARMING -- Everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else!!!!!!
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You fell flat on a metal tire.
IBDaMann
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Insecure deaf people hiding in their safe spaces.Oh what an irony.
IBDaMann
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Deaf person gibberish.
Perhaps the reverberations in your safe space cause something to be lost in the translation.
gfm7175
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I thought that I'd revive this thread of mine, as the issue that I note in the OP is STILL an issue... I just did a Google search for articles published from May 1st 2024 until today, and these are some of the headlines and claims within articles that popped up:
The Middle East is facing a heat wave crisis: The region is warming twice as fast as the global average
Since the 1970s, the Arctic has been warming twice as fast as the global average.
... and etc etc etc...
Climate change: Russia is heating up almost twice as fast the world, warns scientist
Europe is warming twice as fast as the rest of the worldThe Middle East is facing a heat wave crisis: The region is warming twice as fast as the global average
Since the 1970s, the Arctic has been warming twice as fast as the global average.
... and etc etc etc...
gfm7175
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I thought that I'd once again revive this thread of mine, as the issue that I note in the OP is STILL an issue... I just did a Google search for articles published from January 1st 2025 until today, and these are some of the headlines and claims within articles that popped up:
Europe is warming about twice as fast as the global average
The Arctic is heating up more than twice as fast as the global average
America's national parks are warming nearly twice as fast as the national average
Parts of the Earth's polar regions are warming twice as fast as the rest of the planet
Canada is warming twice as fast as the rest of the world
Eastern Mediterranean is heating twice as fast as the global average
BUT wait, at least there's some good news:
India isn't warming as quickly as other areas are, due to pollution hazes, so maybe more pollution is necessary in order to "slow the spread" of global warming?
And people are actually stupid enough to buy into this very wacky, logic denying, mathematics denying, science denying religion...
Europe is warming about twice as fast as the global average
The Arctic is heating up more than twice as fast as the global average
America's national parks are warming nearly twice as fast as the national average
Parts of the Earth's polar regions are warming twice as fast as the rest of the planet
Canada is warming twice as fast as the rest of the world
Eastern Mediterranean is heating twice as fast as the global average
BUT wait, at least there's some good news:
India isn't warming as quickly as other areas are, due to pollution hazes, so maybe more pollution is necessary in order to "slow the spread" of global warming?
And people are actually stupid enough to buy into this very wacky, logic denying, mathematics denying, science denying religion...
Daylight63
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I have looked into logic, science and mathematics for myself. And I believe in global climate change.
In fact if one doesn't then one clearly hasn't looked at the logic, science and math.
We know it is warming. That is incontrovertible.
Wrongo. You should learn how the surface temperature is measured and what is actually tracked.
For instance clearly you don't know that what is measured is actually the ANOMALY. IT's the difference between the temperature at some point on the globe and the average for that time and place for a block of measured time. This is then grid averaged over a large space in conjunction with various other measuring stations in the region.
See? If you don't understand how the science is done of course you might be confused
Let's just say that you are not a scientist by any stretch of the imagination and you don't really understand even the BASICS of this topic. You don't even know what temperature is being measured.
QED.
Daylight63
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So you are saying you STILL don't understand the topic?
That's fair. It's not for everyone. Usually you have to have just a bit of education to really understand it.
Libhater
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I've noticed that the Warmizombies have been rather quiet regarding this thread...
WHERE ART THOU?!?!?!
Well, I would say those lefty global warming nutcases may very well be living up in an igloo in Iceland or Alaska
just to cool down a bit from his horrific global warming catastrophe.
gfm7175
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I don't believe you.
This is why I don't believe you.
Up is down... left is right... fat is skinny... right is wrong...
You are one person, not a group of people.
And to quote a line from Harry Potter: "You just [pause] know? [pause] Once again, you astonish with your gifts, Dimlight, gifts mere mortals can only dream of possessing. How grand it must be... to be the Chosen One."
Nope... this is what YOU should do. You should also learn the relevant rules of mathematics (and the relevant science) and why Earth's temperature cannot be measured to any useful accuracy.
For instance, clearly you don't know that an anomaly is NOT a measurement.
Numerous math errors. Summarily dismissed.
Mathematics is not science, Dimlight. It seems that YOU can't even keep track of what YOU are talking about... No wonder YOU are confused........
These are all YOUR issues, Dimlight, not mine. In fact, you just got done saying that it's NOT "temperature" being measured but rather "the ANOMALY". You're all over the place, dude.
Daylight63
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Test me.
Other than your ASTOUNDING lack of understanding of the topic, which particular parts don't you believe?
Me and vast majority of all the earth's researchers in earth and atmospheric sciences, chemistry and physics.
But other than that....
Try quoting a science article. We already know you prefer fantasy.
LOL. I've done more statistical analyses than you've had hot meals.
Wow. Now it's time for the bullshit-machine.
Wow. You really don't know jack fuckin' SHIT on this topic do you?
Astounding. I mean it's been available for decades to learn. And you have avoided it?
Why not shut up until you've had a science class.
No one is arguing that the planet has not been warming since the last of five previous ice ages, the last one being approximately 1.5 million years ago.
What people like me are saying is that the combustible engine and man are not the cause. The real fact that the earth has had five previous ice ages and warming periods long before man walked the earth would suggest that something else is the primary driving factor. We call it the sun.
With all of our education and science, we are still some of the most gullible lemmings that can be convinced by some quack of even the most implausible nonsense. ie. that a man can become a woman.
So yes, the planet is warming. No, it is not man caused. It never was man caused. It never will be man caused.
The absurd and unscientific claims that it is man are being promoted by the same globalists who want to create autocracies out of the Democratic nations.
Daylight63
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This is at least a more reasonable position. However all the data indicate you are wrong. Let's tote them up, shall we?
1. The isotopic composition of the increased CO2 in the atmosphere is loaded up with 12-C vs 13-C. This is what happens when PLANT fix carbon from the atmosphere. They tend to concentrate LIGHT isotopes like 12-C. We are seeing a steady increase in 12-C vs 13-C as one would expect from burning fossil and/or vegetal fuels. Prior to the industrial revolution this trend was NOT happening.
2. We know a LOT about natural "forcings" (those things in nature which impact the temperature). WE know this from studies of PALEOCLIMATOLOGY. This is a field in the earth sciences that looks at markers to let us know what the climate was like over earth's history. Since we've had a lot of data to go through that represents a time WITHOUT human behavior we know a lot about natural forcings which cause the temp to go up and down. Right now the last 50-100 years worth of warming does not seem to line up with any of the known natural forcings alone. In fact the ONLY way to make the warming we've seen over the past half century make sense is if we include HUMAN ACTIVITIES which makes the data suddenly make sense.
3. CO2 is a known greenhouse gas. We've known about how CO2 absorbs IR photons for over 150 almost 200 years now. You can even run a simple experiment in most chem labs to show yourself how it works. This is not incontrovertible. We also know we are dumping gigatons of excess CO2 into the atmosphere.
But solar influence cannot account for more than 50% of the warming we have seen in the past half century. What is the other mystery factor? I know.
So long as you ignore the SCIENCE you are correct. But if you look at the SCIENCE you'll see you are incorrect.
Wouldn't you have had to have had a science class to know what is unscientific?
ZenMode
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"India isn't warming as quickly as other areas are, due to pollution hazes, so maybe more pollution is necessary in order to "slow the spread" of global warming?"I thought that I'd once again revive this thread of mine, as the issue that I note in the OP is STILL an issue... I just did a Google search for articles published from January 1st 2025 until today, and these are some of the headlines and claims within articles that popped up:
Europe is warming about twice as fast as the global average
The Arctic is heating up more than twice as fast as the global average
America's national parks are warming nearly twice as fast as the national average
Parts of the Earth's polar regions are warming twice as fast as the rest of the planet
Canada is warming twice as fast as the rest of the world
Eastern Mediterranean is heating twice as fast as the global average
BUT wait, at least there's some good news:
India isn't warming as quickly as other areas are, due to pollution hazes, so maybe more pollution is necessary in order to "slow the spread" of global warming?
And people are actually stupid enough to buy into this very wacky, logic denying, mathematics denying, science denying religion...
The effects of pollution on temperature has been known for decades. It was reaffirmed during Covid lockdowns.
Again, things that a person with an ounce of intellectual curiosity would know...
Emission Reductions From Pandemic Had Unexpected Effects on Atmosphere
Earth’s atmosphere reacted in surprising ways to the lowering of emissions during the pandemic, showing how closely climate warming and air pollution are linked.
Yes, the use of specific aerosols to control surface temperatures is a thing.
Again.... intellectual curiosity.... honesty...etc...
Daylight63
Verified User
"India isn't warming as quickly as other areas are, due to pollution hazes, so maybe more pollution is necessary in order to "slow the spread" of global warming?"
The effects of pollution on temperature has been known for decades. It was reaffirmed during Covid lockdowns.
Again, things that a person with an ounce of intellectual curiosity would know...
Emission Reductions From Pandemic Had Unexpected Effects on Atmosphere
Earth’s atmosphere reacted in surprising ways to the lowering of emissions during the pandemic, showing how closely climate warming and air pollution are linked.www.jpl.nasa.gov
Yes, the use of specific aerosols to control surface temperatures is a thing.
Again.... intellectual curiosity.... honesty...etc...
Another thing to remember is the "Mid Century Cooling" in the 20th century.
WIth the rise of WWII and massive industrialization in the 1940's we started pumping a bunch of SULFATE AEROSOLES into the atmosphere. It resulted in a general decrease in overall temperatures. After the 1970's with clean air initiatives the warming (the sources of which had never stopped) resumed.
Here's a detailed rundown on how this worked and how it was figured out:
Why did climate cool in the mid-20th Century?
There are a number of forcings which affect climate (eg - stratospheric aerosols, solar variations). When all forcings are combined, they show good correlation to global temperature throughout the 20th century including the mid-century cooling period. However, for the last 35 years, the dominant...
skepticalscience.com
gfm7175
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Insults are not valid arguments, Dimlight.
Daylight63
Verified User
Why don't you try talking science. I know you can't.
I'll accept your post as defeat. Next time: try going up against someone who doesn't know science.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Why don't you try talking science. I know you can't.
I'll accept your post as defeat. Next time: try going up against someone who doesn't know science.
You haven't presented any science (or mathematics or logic for that matter).How can EVERYWHERE be "warming twice as fast as" EVERYWHERE ELSE? It doesn't make any sense.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
China is not everywhere.
How can EVERYWHERE be "warming twice as fast as" EVERYWHERE ELSE? It doesn't make any sense.
gfm7175
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Daylight63
Verified User
SO the whole isotope discussion and the discussion of sulfate aerosols doesn't count as science.
I see you are even more stupid than I first thought.